My game has hit a plateau

mnShooter

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Lately I feel like I should be getting out on every rack, but I'm not. I should be able to put the cueball in the right area to make the next shot. But then I'll miss a medium hard shot or position by a mile. I should be able to make every shot on the table and put the cueball on a dime for how much time I spend on the table (25-40 hrs/wk).

I've taken a few lessons, watched years worth of pro videos, and read plenty of books. Nothing seems to really help. I still do the same against the ghost that I have for the last 6 months or so. Maybe I should quit listening to all this instruction and just try to be comfortable at the table. My game has hit a plateau and I just don't think it will get any better. What fun is pool if you're not getting better? Any suggestions?:confused:
 
u need more lessons......i did everything you did, videos and books,but what really took my game to the next level was good quality instruction. Like they say, you dont know what you dont know.........
 
Your problem may be on the mental side. You can have the greatest technique in the world and get beat by every bar fly around if your mental game doesn't keep up with your physical game.
 
Getting a good coach will be a big help.

Also dont worry about being able to run out the rack everytime u get to the table. And the same goes with position and potting balls.

Cuz once you start to second guess your shots thats when you try to be to fine with everything and trying for perfect position. But thats just my opinion and what i do when i hit a plateau.

dave
 
You sound like you have concluded that you have done everything in your power to develop your skills but your play would suggest otherwise.

You may or may not need lessons, but at very least, I suspect you need somebody you respect and trust to tell you where your weaknesses lie.

Most people who expect to get out every time they step up to a runnable table believe they have sound fundamentals, superior pattern play, superior speed control, and a high level of commitment to every shot.

My best guess is that you haven't identified your areas of weakness and, therefore, are not sure what to work on.
 
Simplfy the Game

Now is the time to think, not play. Maybe take a little time off from the game, let what you've learned sink in. We all hit these plateau's.

Here's something that helped me. I was in the same boat and I read a post by a guy named Popcorn on the Billiard's Digest Board. I think about that one post very often.

He said, to improve at pool, you don't need to work on spectacular, near ridiculously impossible shots. He said you need to work on simple shots and perfect them. Perfect them to where they become habit, virtually impossible to miss. He said to simplify the game... to the point of genius.

At the time, I had hit a wall too. I realized what he was saying was true. I had seen the best players play perfect position and simple patterns, making simple shots under severe pressure, over and over again. Like he said, watching Mosconi play straight pool was watching simple to the point of genius.

At that moment, I realized how truly sloppy my game was. My aim was not center pocket, I was playing position to vague areas, not selecting a precise line and spot to park the cueball. I wasn't choosing simple patterns. I was a pool slob.

I recognized that playing on buckets was good for my ego, but bad for my game. It seemed like every time I got on tight equipment, I missed a lot of shots. My banking and defensive game was not as good as my offensive game and needed improvement.

In an effort to make my game more precise, I had my home table redone and tightened the pockets to 4". This forced me to play center pocket and pay more attention to angles and routes. At 4" you can't cheat pockets very much. The tight pockets also forced me to clean up my pre-shot routine and pay more attention to aiming line. You aren't going to make a lot of balls on a tight table with a sloppy routine. I had to make changes to my bridge and to eliminate looseness. I had to improve my overall stance to be more solid, because any slight head movement will cause a miss on tight equipment.

I also took a long lesson from a good instructor, Scott Lee. He basically didn't have anything negative to say (that alone helped me) but gave me a couple of situational things to work on. He taught me how to make a better rail shot, and how to make a very good slow roll, push out type of stroke. He gave me a few drills that were simple but required tedious precision.

It was no fun at first, playing on a tight table, but eventually my game adapted to the tight table. In doing so, I improved. My game got a lot simpler and those shots I thought were ridiculously difficult a few years ago suddenly look routine.

One other thing. Improvement can be measured a couple of ways. My suggestion is that you measure your improvement by judging yourself on how good your worst day is. In other words, when you play bad, how bad is it really? Can you still win on a bad day? At your worst, can you bring a decent game to the table? Sometimes the best way to improve is to raise your average day to a higher level.

Chris
 
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Pool School will be in your back yard this August. Now is the time to do some thing about it....randyg
 
Thanks for the recommendations guys. I know where my weaknesses lie, I guess I'm not sure which ones to work on and how to fix them. I think I'll have to sign up for that pool school in August to see if we can solidify my game. I'll have to save up some money.

I do have an 8' home table with 4" pockets and fast cloth. When I am at home I can do just about everything on the table. When I go to the pool hall it is a different story.
 
mnShooter said:
Thanks for the recommendations guys. I know where my weaknesses lie, I guess I'm not sure which ones to work on and how to fix them. I think I'll have to sign up for that pool school in August to see if we can solidify my game. I'll have to save up some money.

I do have an 8' home table with 4" pockets and fast cloth. When I am at home I can do just about everything on the table. When I go to the pool hall it is a different story.

If you can work it, the best thing is to get a 9' table set up at home. It makes a big difference in the quality of your practice. It's worth the expense. I live on my table.

Also... as you play more and more people, you will get better at bringing your game to the table. Relax, even seasoned players get nervous and mess up. That's the most common thing among all pool players!

A few months ago, I played a guy in the Swanson tournament, race to 8. He was shaking like a leaf. I didn't think he could play at all and I wondered if I was going to have to give him CPR, he was shaking so bad I thought he was going to pass out. His lips and hands were quivering and his face was white like he was sea sick.

Well, I made the mistake of freewheeling on him because he didn't seem to be able to make a ball and I got up 5 - 1. He started to relax and then whoosh - he made everything he looked at, broke and ran a couple of racks, suddenly it was 5 -5, then 6 - 6, then 7 - 7, and you can guess I broke and ran to the six on the last rack, got out of line, and tried to billiard the nine in and hung it.

So, next time you think you're nervous, remember this story about this kid Johnny. In fact, I called him Johnny Rocket, because he went from zero to 400 in one game.

Chris
 
Suicide's an alternative...

But, in case that band isn't something you rock out to, what's the deal with you shooting, "...medium hard shot or position..." . You have to shoot easy shots pretty much ALL THE TIME to be a good player. Now, to be a champ, you gotta be able to respond to your opponent's misses and safes with aggression and success, in addition to taking it easy on yourself, position-wise.

Anyway, point is: That Buddy Hall can't play! I never saw him take a hard shot!

Now, we can do this the hard way, or the easy way...which way you wanna go?
 
mnShooter said:
Thanks for the recommendations guys. I know where my weaknesses lie, I guess I'm not sure which ones to work on and how to fix them. ...
If the instructors you have already worked with didn't help help you figure out what to work on for your weaknesses, you need to find different instructors.

Here is an article about taking lessons that you might find helpful. In particular, see if you can answer the questions at the end about the lessons you have had.

http://www.sfbilliards.com/articles/2005-09.pdf

For your situation, I'd recommend some one-on-one lessons from an instructor every month or so.
 
mnShooter said:
Lately I feel like I should be getting out on every rack, but I'm not. I should be able to put the cueball in the right area to make the next shot. But then I'll miss a medium hard shot or position by a mile. I should be able to make every shot on the table and put the cueball on a dime for how much time I spend on the table (25-40 hrs/wk).

I've taken a few lessons, watched years worth of pro videos, and read plenty of books. Nothing seems to really help. I still do the same against the ghost that I have for the last 6 months or so. Maybe I should quit listening to all this instruction and just try to be comfortable at the table. My game has hit a plateau and I just don't think it will get any better. What fun is pool if you're not getting better? Any suggestions?:confused:

Video tape yourself playing for 15 or more minutes. Notice if there is any difference in your mechanics from when you start playing and when you are warmed up. I guarantee you will see yourself doing certain things that you didn't know you do. Alot of top players recommend this when your game just isn't going anywhere. Videotape yourself from every angle if you can.
 
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