My Slip Stroke and other thoughts

Karate

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I replied to a thread that was already talking about the Slip Stroke.
The last few years that I have read these threads I have wanted to respond but, haven't.
I thought that I would talk a little about stroke to some readers that have questions on here. This is my first hand knowledge. Hope you enjoy....

I personally play with a slip stroke, and have for around 20 years.
This slip isn't used on all shots.

First, I would like to give you my definition of the slip stroke.
"It is like throwing the cue stick at the cue ball."

There you go.
There is definitely a release of the back hand during the "forward" stroke.

There are a lot of positive results that this gives you.
A full stroke through the cue ball without stopping early or pulling back on the cue.
Using the "weight" of the swinging cue provides highly accurate speed control.
Using the "weight " of the swinging cue will give you more accuracy that having a firm grip on the back hand....that, in my opinion, can be "death" of speed control....having to vary your grip pressure is bad.

I also spin the cue in my hand.
If you stand behind someone, maybe your favorite pro, and see the points in the butt spinning while they are going back and forth in the practice stroke, they are getting the cue stick to feel light in their hand.
Dialing in the swing speed of the cue stick.

^^^This last paragraph doesn't insinuate that this player is about to let go of their cue stick and use a slip stroke, but it is step one of having a good understanding of how I like to play the game.^^^

Just one more thing.
Only some of the best in the game have came to me and talked about seeing the slip stroke when I play. Most people that I have played over the years never see it.
Now, read that again. I didn't say that I was one of the best in the game.
I just want people to understand how unnoticeable it is to see.

Thanks for reading.
Let's all enjoy this game and have respectable conversations about it.

Karate-
 
This isn't the definition of a slip stroke that is typically being talked about. Throwing the cue, or releasing the cue before it hits the cue ball is something else. I've heard of it being referred to as a stroke slip but I've never really liked that term.

An actually slip stroke is when a player regrips his cue just prior to the final forward stroke.
 
BasementDweller said:
This isn't the definition of a slip stroke that is typically being talked about. Throwing the cue, or releasing the cue before it hits the cue ball is something else. I've heard of it being referred to as a stroke slip but I've never really liked that term.

An actually slip stroke is when a player regrips his cue just prior to the final forward stroke.
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This is how I understand it as well.... stroke- slip , as the op describes is MUCH more natural feeling to me.
 
The Original post is right on about what a slip stroke is. I developed mine from playing 15 hours on end day after day for a few years and it is impossible to hold the stick tightly for that long. Your grip begins to relax and the cue slips naturally and becomes the norm of how you play.
 
Karate said:
I replied to a thread that was already talking about the Slip Stroke.
The last few years that I have read these threads I have wanted to respond but, haven't.
I thought that I would talk a little about stroke to some readers that have questions on here. This is my first hand knowledge. Hope you enjoy....

I personally play with a slip stroke, and have for around 20 years.
This slip isn't used on all shots.

First, I would like to give you my definition of the slip stroke.
"It is like throwing the cue stick at the cue ball."

There you go.
There is definitely a release of the back hand during the "forward" stroke.

There are a lot of positive results that this gives you.
A full stroke through the cue ball without stopping early or pulling back on the cue.
Using the "weight" of the swinging cue provides highly accurate speed control.
Using the "weight " of the swinging cue will give you more accuracy that having a firm grip on the back hand....that, in my opinion, can be "death" of speed control....having to vary your grip pressure is bad.

I also spin the cue in my hand.
If you stand behind someone, maybe your favorite pro, and see the points in the butt spinning while they are going back and forth in the practice stroke, they are getting the cue stick to feel light in their hand.
Dialing in the swing speed of the cue stick.

^^^This last paragraph doesn't insinuate that this player is about to let go of their cue stick and use a slip stroke, but it is step one of having a good understanding of how I like to play the game.^^^

Just one more thing.
Only some of the best in the game have came to me and talked about seeing the slip stroke when I play. Most people that I have played over the years never see it.
Now, read that again. I didn't say that I was one of the best in the game.
I just want people to understand how unnoticeable it is to see.

Thanks for reading.
Let's all enjoy this game and have respectable conversations about it.

Karate-
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This is not really a slip stroke. It's usually either referred to as a stroke-slip or a reverse slip stroke.
 
few of you have any idea of what a slip stroke is or was. few would use it with todays fast tables.

many are arguing back and forth whether players used one and dont know what you are looking at.
 
Slip stroke=The grip hand is slid back before the payoff stroke so the tip hits the ball with forearm perpendicular to the floor instead of past the 90* angle.

Stroke Slip= The cue slides forward off the grip hand. The tip goes straight through the ball instead of dipping .https://youtu.be/8DYDMMw5TtE?t=22
 
I've only seen one person who mastered the slip stroke aside from the Mosconi thread, video. I must have shot with this person for 6 years before I noticed it. Call me a slow learner or maybe I just didn't watch anything except his shot making.
I couldn't figure out how he got so much power on long and break shots. Man he was smooth. Wish I would have video taped it. It was a thing of beauty. He was a 100 ball runner.
 
Karate said:
I replied to a thread that was already talking about the Slip Stroke.
The last few years that I have read these threads I have wanted to respond but, haven't.
I thought that I would talk a little about stroke to some readers that have questions on here. This is my first hand knowledge. Hope you enjoy....

I personally play with a slip stroke, and have for around 20 years.
This slip isn't used on all shots.

First, I would like to give you my definition of the slip stroke.
"It is like throwing the cue stick at the cue ball."

There you go.
There is definitely a release of the back hand during the "forward" stroke.

There are a lot of positive results that this gives you.
A full stroke through the cue ball without stopping early or pulling back on the cue.
Using the "weight" of the swinging cue provides highly accurate speed control.
Using the "weight " of the swinging cue will give you more accuracy that having a firm grip on the back hand....that, in my opinion, can be "death" of speed control....having to vary your grip pressure is bad.

I also spin the cue in my hand.
If you stand behind someone, maybe your favorite pro, and see the points in the butt spinning while they are going back and forth in the practice stroke, they are getting the cue stick to feel light in their hand.
Dialing in the swing speed of the cue stick.

^^^This last paragraph doesn't insinuate that this player is about to let go of their cue stick and use a slip stroke, but it is step one of having a good understanding of how I like to play the game.^^^

Just one more thing.
Only some of the best in the game have came to me and talked about seeing the slip stroke when I play. Most people that I have played over the years never see it.
Now, read that again. I didn't say that I was one of the best in the game.
I just want people to understand how unnoticeable it is to see.

Thanks for reading.
Let's all enjoy this game and have respectable conversations about it.

Karate-
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Find a video of Cowboy Jimmy Moore. That's a slip stroke.
 
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