My Tournament Idea

u12armresl

u12armresl

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Spam away with the stupid idea, can't work, etc. but I wanted to let you guys know in the wake of the "what would you do if you hit the lottery" thread a tournament idea I've had for awhile.

Some rather large venue like a warehouse where you could keep things going for a weekend or so. 200 tables.

500 to 1000 people entry (more if people were there)
$20 to $100 (different tiers)
Race to one on a bar table, 8 ball.
Only pay first or first and something small for second.
No soft breaks, 2 foul push out.

Tournaments and new flights constantly going.
If only paying first, you have a first place of 10k to 20k.
Quarters for the table, and some sort of admission price.

What do you think?
 
u12armresl said:
Spam away with the stupid idea, can't work, etc. but I wanted to let you guys know in the wake of the "what would you do if you hit the lottery" thread a tournament idea I've had for awhile.

Some rather large venue like a warehouse where you could keep things going for a weekend or so. 200 tables.

500 to 1000 people entry (more if people were there)
$20 to $100 (different tiers)
Race to one on a bar table, 8 ball.
Only pay first or first and something small for second.
No soft breaks, 2 foul push out.

Tournaments and new flights constantly going.
If only paying first, you have a first place of 10k to 20k.
Quarters for the table, and some sort of admission price.

What do you think?
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In a race to one format, is it winner breaks or loser breaks?
 
u12armresl said:
Spam away with the stupid idea, can't work, etc. but I wanted to let you guys know in the wake of the "what would you do if you hit the lottery" thread a tournament idea I've had for awhile.

Some rather large venue like a warehouse where you could keep things going for a weekend or so. 200 tables.

500 to 1000 people entry (more if people were there)
$20 to $100 (different tiers)
Race to one on a bar table, 8 ball.
Only pay first or first and something small for second.
No soft breaks, 2 foul push out.

Tournaments and new flights constantly going.
If only paying first, you have a first place of 10k to 20k.
Quarters for the table, and some sort of admission price.

What do you think?
Click to expand...
You actually think people would enter a race-to-1 tournament? Maybe if they lived across the street. I guess you could do it in Vegas after the BCA's. Lots of tables and suckers. Perfect venue.
 
I'll play anyone in the world race to 1 .....for a quarter.



u12armresl said:
Spam away with the stupid idea, can't work, etc. but I wanted to let you guys know in the wake of the "what would you do if you hit the lottery" thread a tournament idea I've had for awhile.

Some rather large venue like a warehouse where you could keep things going for a weekend or so. 200 tables.

500 to 1000 people entry (more if people were there)
$20 to $100 (different tiers)
Race to one on a bar table, 8 ball.
Only pay first or first and something small for second.
No soft breaks, 2 foul push out.

Tournaments and new flights constantly going.
If only paying first, you have a first place of 10k to 20k.
Quarters for the table, and some sort of admission price.

What do you think?
Click to expand...
 
Yes I do.

There would be so much action and so many tournaments going on.


garczar said:
You actually think people would enter a race-to-1 tournament? Maybe if they lived across the street. I guess you could do it in Vegas after the BCA's. Lots of tables and suckers. Perfect venue.
Click to expand...
 
u12armresl said:
Spam away with the stupid idea, can't work, etc. but I wanted to let you guys know in the wake of the "what would you do if you hit the lottery" thread a tournament idea I've had for awhile.

Some rather large venue like a warehouse where you could keep things going for a weekend or so. 200 tables.

500 to 1000 people entry (more if people were there)
$20 to $100 (different tiers)
Race to one on a bar table, 8 ball.
Only pay first or first and something small for second.
No soft breaks, 2 foul push out.

Tournaments and new flights constantly going.
If only paying first, you have a first place of 10k to 20k.
Quarters for the table, and some sort of admission price.

What do you think?
Click to expand...

Only thing I like is "no soft breaks". Race to 1 on a bar table with 500 people, you may as well sell 500 lottery tickets and draw a winner from a bucket.

Seems from the first line you already knew what people would think though LOL

As someone said, if this was happening across the street from me and it cost $5 to enter, I may show up if the food was good.

Aside from the pay only first place and race to 1, sounds like SBE or DCC but on bar tables.
 
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garczar said:
You actually think people would enter a race-to-1 tournament? Maybe if they lived across the street. I guess you could do it in Vegas after the BCA's. Lots of tables and suckers. Perfect venue.
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For that low entry fee I can see MORE people signing up for this vs a pro tournament.
 
hang-the-9 said:
Only thing I like is "no soft breaks". Race to 1 on a bar table with 500 people, you may as well sell 500 lottery tickets and draw a winner from a bucket.

Seems from the first line you already knew what people would think though LOL

As someone said, if this was happening across the street from me and it cost $5 to enter, I may show up if the food was good.

Aside from the pay only first place and race to 1, sounds like SBE or DCC but on bar tables.
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I'm wondering how you would enforce "no soft breaks" in 8 ball. I've seen a rule with 9 or 10 ball where you need three balls to either be pocketed or go past the head string. Same thing for 8 ball?

Follow up question. Why are 'hard' breaks better than 'soft' breaks?
 
easy-e said:
For that low entry fee I can see MORE people signing up for this vs a pro tournament.
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If I wanted to win 10,000, before playing in a race to 1 event with a few 100 players I would buy some scratch tickets with my $20. About same chance of winning and at least I have a good chance of getting my money back.
 
hang-the-9 said:
If I wanted to win 10,000, before playing in a race to 1 event with a few 100 players I would buy some scratch tickets with my $20. About same chance of winning and at least I have a good chance of getting my money back.
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This format would be your best chance to win a pool tournament with that purse. That wouldn’t be fun for you? Surely you don’t only play pool to make money, so you? I wish this tournament existed, seems like a lot of fun.
 
u12armresl said:
... 200 tables.

500 to 1000 people entry (more if people were there)
$20 to $100 (different tiers)
Race to one on a bar table, 8 ball.
Only pay first or first and something small for second.
No soft breaks, 2 foul push out.

Tournaments and new flights constantly going.
If only paying first, you have a first place of 10k to 20k.
Quarters for the table, and some sort of admission price.

What do you think?
Click to expand...
It is unlikely that you would get anyone to pay $100 for a race-to-one unless there were on-site bars.

How do you establish the tiers?

The finalists in a tournament are going to be playing for $20,000 or so. Will you have referees or is this going to be in an open-carry state?

You will need at least one staff person for each 8 tables to keep the matches moving. You will also need a really sharp tournament director. Where on Earth are you going to find one of those? You don't want to confront 1000 angry, drunk, open-carrying pool players when the TD just walks away after pointing at the promoter which would be you.

I think you want the tables open rather than waste time with quarters. Charge a $1 greens fee or swallow the cost.

If you suppose that the typical game of eight ball takes 15 minutes, then 100 tables would eliminate 400 players per hour if the staff was on the ball. You would also have to be able to process 400 entries per hour. At $20/entry, you're taking in $8000/hour. The big tournaments in Las Vegas have over 200 tables. That would let you have a $20,000 winner every hour or 90 minutes.

A casino might go for this idea.
 
easy-e said:
This format would be your best chance to win a pool tournament with that purse. That wouldn’t be fun for you? Surely you don’t only play pool to make money, so you? I wish this tournament existed, seems like a lot of fun.
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Race to 1 on 7 footers, nope, I would not play in something like that. Especially if I had to travel to get to it.

Now something like SBE with a bunch of stuff happening, cuemakers, vendors, yea I'll drive the 3-4 hours to play on 7 footers, but that is not a race to 1. I'd spend the money for the trip and the full event. The tournament would be not the major thing to bring me in though. If SBE was just a big tournament on 7 footers I would never go.
 
I like it.

The great Larry Lisciotti was always looking to match up in races to one for big money, and he was willing to play anyone in the world in his heyday. Lag for break, of course, and boy could Larry lag well. Larry felt that he'd hold up to the pressure more than his opponents. At least when I was watching, he was right!

Small entry fee with large payouts is a formula that works at Derby City, and brings out the players in droves. At this year's Derby City 9-ball, Chris Melling parlayed his $160 entry fee into $16,000 when he won the event.

You might not get the top guys to play in this, but so what? The chance for a big pay day, if managed and marketed correctly, can attract a big field.
 
hang-the-9 said:
Race to 1 on 7 footers, nope, I would not play in something like that. Especially if I had to travel to get to it.

Now something like SBE with a bunch of stuff happening, cuemakers, vendors, yea I'll drive the 3-4 hours to play on 7 footers, but that is not a race to 1. I'd spend the money for the trip and the full event. The tournament would be not the major thing to bring me in though. If SBE was just a big tournament on 7 footers I would never go.
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Is it interesting enough for you to want to read the write up after it’s over?
 
Maybe there needs to be various tiers of races to one like at poker rooms.

There is a TV set up and saying there are so many people listed for the $20 races and there are this many people for the $5 races.
 
I was thinking about the ability for anyone to win a really nice sum of money for potentially small amounts.

Of course there would be stakes around for players, and you would get a shirt that said "I Staked Someone in a Race to 1 Tourney and all I got was this awful t-shirt."


garczar said:
You actually think people would enter a race-to-1 tournament? Maybe if they lived across the street. I guess you could do it in Vegas after the BCA's. Lots of tables and suckers. Perfect venue.
Click to expand...
 
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