My Turn: "What Would You Do In This Situation"
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I would call a time-out - then call SVB and ask him what to do. 
Seriously - I would play some sort of safety.
Probably hit the two with a little follow - leave the cue ball by the short rail there and the two ball back down on the other end preferably behind the 7 ball.
BVal
Seriously - I would play some sort of safety.
Probably hit the two with a little follow - leave the cue ball by the short rail there and the two ball back down on the other end preferably behind the 7 ball.
BVal
This is actually a very tricky situation. You don't want to take that free whack at the 10-ball because you could end up accidentally making the 3-ball AND you don't want to leave the combination on the 3-ball because you can be certain not to get back to the table.
My idea is a lukewarm safety that keeps him from running out or playing a lock-up safety. Get back to the table and see what your next inning offers.
My idea is a lukewarm safety that keeps him from running out or playing a lock-up safety. Get back to the table and see what your next inning offers.
Two way shot: Shoot the two as if you're playing safe, but go for the 5-3 combo at the same time. I'd be hoping if I made it that it came back around for the two and if I missed it that it'd stay down table safe. This is why I suck at 9 ball and 10 ball. 
That's what would be going through my head anyway.
That's what would be going through my head anyway.
noRulez said:Two way shot: Shoot the two as if you're playing safe, but go for the 5-3 combo at the same time. I'd be hoping if I made it that it came back around for the two and if I missed it that it'd stay down table safe. This is why I suck at 9 ball and 10 ball.
The problem with banking into the combination is that you're really going to lose the cueball AND the object ball and from the looks of it, you'll likely end up very bad with all those blockers in the middle of the table.
Jude Rosenstock said:
I agree, but I can't seem to talk myself out of shots like that while I'm playing for some reason. I tell myself I'll get lucky. Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. That's why I stick to 8 ball. I need to play more 9 ball so I get a hang of it. The game just drives me nuts.
Hi mosconiac, I know where you found this setup;-)
I dont think I would have played a safety here, since the 5-3 combo is relatively easy from anywhere. I think I would have played the 2-ball in the left corner, and with some high, maybe a bit inside english, hit the short rail and come back up table, caroming in the 3 ball by hitting the 5.
Very important to actually make both the 2-ball and the 3-ball on this shot, or you will find yourself in trouble..
Since 4 is a hanger, I could use that ball as a recovery opportunity to get position for the 5.
I dont think I would have played a safety here, since the 5-3 combo is relatively easy from anywhere. I think I would have played the 2-ball in the left corner, and with some high, maybe a bit inside english, hit the short rail and come back up table, caroming in the 3 ball by hitting the 5.
Very important to actually make both the 2-ball and the 3-ball on this shot, or you will find yourself in trouble..
Since 4 is a hanger, I could use that ball as a recovery opportunity to get position for the 5.
pooladdict said:
You're right. The shot is on. I'm simply not that good. I'm def playing safe.
Use english
You can use outside english with enough speed to make the 5 and bring the cue ball down table past the 7, then go rail 1st and make the 3 with enough speed to move the 5 and not scratch. If you can see the 4, you have an easy shot on it and shape to the 5, which shouldn't be too far from the pocket either.
You can use outside english with enough speed to make the 5 and bring the cue ball down table past the 7, then go rail 1st and make the 3 with enough speed to move the 5 and not scratch. If you can see the 4, you have an easy shot on it and shape to the 5, which shouldn't be too far from the pocket either.
Consider me a dumb ass because I'd just play the carom on the 10-ball.
From the diagram, it looks like you could play the carom at the right speed to where you don't even have to send the 2-ball all the way up-table.
If my opponent played safe on me here, unless he really locked me up in jail, I'd have to consider myself happy to be back at the table and, with the 3/5 where it is, even if my opponent did play the first safety on me (hypothetically giving him the advantage), I feel that there is enough pool left to play from here that I have a good chance of ultimately winning the safety battle. I may be wrong in doing so, but I'm firing at my hole here.
Maybe I'm just not seeing the "exact" shot that the diagram is supposed to be representing.
From the diagram, it looks like you could play the carom at the right speed to where you don't even have to send the 2-ball all the way up-table.
If my opponent played safe on me here, unless he really locked me up in jail, I'd have to consider myself happy to be back at the table and, with the 3/5 where it is, even if my opponent did play the first safety on me (hypothetically giving him the advantage), I feel that there is enough pool left to play from here that I have a good chance of ultimately winning the safety battle. I may be wrong in doing so, but I'm firing at my hole here.
Maybe I'm just not seeing the "exact" shot that the diagram is supposed to be representing.
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Cut the 2 in the lower left corner leave the cue on the upper long rail. I think the 3 could be easily be made with out breaking it out. You may have to hit the rail first. It looks like a no brainer.
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a little stun left should do the trick
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That's almost my choice, but I'd try not to make the 3 (in case I miss the 2), but to get on the head rail if possible to have a shot at the 3 if the 2 goes.billbOK said:
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Jimmy M. said:Consider me a dumb ass because I'd just play the carom on the 10-ball.
From the diagram, it looks like you could play the carom at the right speed to where you don't even have to send the 2-ball all the way up-table.
If my opponent played safe on me here, unless he really locked me up in jail, I'd have to consider myself happy to be back at the table and, with the 3/5 where it is, even if my opponent did play the first safety on me (hypothetically giving him the advantage), I feel that there is enough pool left to play from here that I have a good chance of ultimately winning the safety battle. I may be wrong in doing so, but I'm firing at my hole here.
Maybe I'm just not seeing the "exact" shot that the diagram is supposed to be representing.
Guess I'm a dumb ass, too, for the carom ten is the shot that first occurred to me. A good player can control the two ball on this carom, leaving it somewhere uptable that's awkward if the carom is missed.
Neil read my mind. In fact, I have two options I would choose from based on how well I "feel" the shots at that specific time.
I just can't force myself to think "timidly" here since any safe up table will probably result in my opponent kicking the 2 into the 3/5 combo...you might be luckier than me...and if my speed is poor, which it usually is...he will have an even easier time of it.
Option 1: Billiard-bank the 10
I'm playing the 2 into the 5 with a dead center CB. I expect to make the 3 about 90% of the time. If I make the 3, but not the 10...I'll deal with that as it lays...I'm still at the table and anything can happen from there.
Option 2: Billiard the 10
I'm playing the 2 into the 5 and expect to make the 3 about 80-90% of the time. If I make the 3, but not the 10...I'll have drawn the CB out into the open (hopefully) so I can deal with the 2 from there.
I just can't force myself to think "timidly" here since any safe up table will probably result in my opponent kicking the 2 into the 3/5 combo...you might be luckier than me...and if my speed is poor, which it usually is...he will have an even easier time of it.
Option 1: Billiard-bank the 10
I'm playing the 2 into the 5 with a dead center CB. I expect to make the 3 about 90% of the time. If I make the 3, but not the 10...I'll deal with that as it lays...I'm still at the table and anything can happen from there.
Option 2: Billiard the 10
I'm playing the 2 into the 5 and expect to make the 3 about 80-90% of the time. If I make the 3, but not the 10...I'll have drawn the CB out into the open (hopefully) so I can deal with the 2 from there.
Mosconiac,
I saw this immediately; this is a Chicago shot (the game, not the city, of course). There are times to get the balls a-movin', and this is one of them in my book. A ton of good things can happen here.
I expect to make the 3 ball a big percentage of the time, which is really all I care about.
I am going to hit this shot with a high degree of speed, taking the 6/8/9 blockers out of play.
- Steve