Need an answer quick ebay Singapore

Jeff

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I have someone on ebay who wants the Coker I have for sale.

He messaged me because I have it setup to not allow bidders from outside the USA to bid.

He is from Singapore.

He has a low number of buy/sales but it is 100%

He says he will paypal the money and his address is verified.

The cue has ivory inlays.

So a couple of questions. Can an address be verified in Singapore? Can I ship a cue with ivory into Singapore?

Should I trust this?
 
My concern would be the fact that you cannot get a signature on overseas shipments. That fact and not knowing the buyer would make Paypal out of the question. However, if he wishes to send the money Western Union, you are not exposed.
 
If he has established himself with a paypal account and verified his address I personally would sell to him. After all if he pays you through paypal you will have the money. Just don't short yourself on the shipping. Don
 
Even though you most likely have a legit buyer, anytime you're dealing with an overseas buyer, I'd make him put himself on the line by sending you a money order and wouldn't ship the cue until the check was cashed and in your hands. Paypal seems to have too many loop holes that people can abuse, and with laws designed to protect you as a seller that vary from country to country, you'd be the one taking all the risk in this particular deal. It's very easy to find an American or an international bank in Singapore, so although he may need to do a little footwork, getting a money order issued from a major US bank is not a problem. Like I say, make him do the footwork and take the risk.
As far as ivory is concerned, it really depends on the country on the recieving end of the deal. I know from experience that the US is toughest place to get ivory INTO. As far as shipping out of the US, I don't think it's that much of a problem/risk. It all depends upon how strict the laws are in Singapore and how they enforce those laws.
dave
 
If I'm not mistaken though, you can't ship Ivory out of this country. There was a thread just a few days ago on the subject. Do A search and you will find it.
 
List his Ebay ID. Some of us on here may have dealt with him in the past, or maybe some of the AZB community in Singapore will know him and can vouch for him.

Joe
 
Jeff said:


I don't know him. I see that he has had one payment problem in the past, though.

I don't know if you know it or not, but Ebay just changed their practices and you can not give negative feedback anymore, so some people's feedback records went to 100% because of the change. I don't know what the ground rules were, but I know it happened. They feel that they will instill more "trust" in a transaction by not allowing negative feedback....of course you will never know how big a JERK THE SELLER/BUYER IS, EITHER.

jOE
 
Bamacues said:
I don't know him. I see that he has had one payment problem in the past, though.

I don't know if you know it or not, but Ebay just changed their practices and you can not give negative feedback anymore, so some people's feedback records went to 100% because of the change. I don't know what the ground rules were, but I know it happened. They feel that they will instill more "trust" in a transaction by not allowing negative feedback....of course you will never know how big a JERK THE SELLER/BUYER IS, EITHER.

jOE
Another thing that did happen with the changes, is that the total feedbacks received are now counted where in the past multiple transaction from one seller/buyer were counted as only one transaction.
Some of the numbers are now inflated!

I would recommend wire transfer or Western Union.
Myron
 
i got screwed to singapore. retracted bid after shipping. still fighting 2 years later. i got the money but paypal blows. if you do sell to him get money make sure it clears and wait a few more days to ship. if its fraud paypal will contact you. ship to paypal address only.

DO NOT TAKE A CREDIT CARD IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM
 
i think if you pm Via.he might know this person as he is also from singapore.many ivory cues are shipped to singapore.jforney sent to Via a capone.just don't mention on the custom form that it has ivory.also what you can do is print a shipping ticket directly thru paypal and once it is delivered they would have their records updated directly.western union is very costly and buyer might back out.IMO
 
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dave sutton said:
i got screwed to singapore. retracted bid after shipping. still fighting 2 years later. i got the money but paypal blows. if you do sell to him get money make sure it clears and wait a few more days to ship. if its fraud paypal will contact you. ship to paypal address only.

DO NOT TAKE A CREDIT CARD IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM

I was thinking something similar. To do the deal with an instant payment, wait till Monday to ship, and remove the money from paypal to a bank account.
 
Jeff, I'm from Singapore. If I can be any help to you, please let me know. You can ask for his contact number and PM it to me. I can be the middleman if you need me to be.
 
dave sutton said:
i got screwed to singapore. retracted bid after shipping. still fighting 2 years later. i got the money but paypal blows. if you do sell to him get money make sure it clears and wait a few more days to ship. if its fraud paypal will contact you. ship to paypal address only.

DO NOT TAKE A CREDIT CARD IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM
May I know who screwed you? Its a small community here. Should not be too hard to identify the culprit.

There has been reports in the news about alot of fraudsters claiming to be from Singapore but are actually not. So do beware.

If he is an avid pool player, he will most definitately be recognizable. There are only that few places to play pool here. Maybe post pics of your cue that you are selling. Going through a reputable AZer for help with the transact would also be good. Escrow is another option. Just $25-$50 more!
 
So you think it is okay for Jeff to vilote U.S. Federal law

Monto P2 said:
i think if you pm Via.he might know this person as he is also from singapore.many ivory cues are shipped to singapore.jforney sent to Via a capone.just don't mention on the custom form that it has ivory.also what you can do is print a shipping ticket directly thru paypal and once it is delivered they would have their records updated directly.western union is very costly and buyer might back out.IMO

I really think this says something about your character, when you tell someone else to break the law.

Are you willing to pay the penalties for a conviction and all of his court costs?

http://ipl.unm.edu/cwl/fedbook/afeleph.html

Ivory Import.export penalties include rewards for the rats:

Prohibitions and Penalties. Except for sport-hunted elephant trophies, it is illegal to: import raw ivory from any country other than an ivory producing country; export raw ivory from the U.S.; import raw or worked ivory that was exported from an ivory producing country in violation of that country's laws or of the CITES Ivory Control System; import worked ivory, other than personal effects, from any country unless that country has certified that the ivory was from legal sources; import raw or worked ivory from a country under a moratorium. Violation of these provisions is subject to criminal and civil penalties. The Secretary, the Secretary of the Treasury and the Secretary of the department in which the Coast Guard is operating are charged with enforcement.

Penalties collected for violations may be used to pay rewards. A person who provides information leading to a civil penalty or a criminal conviction under the Act may receive a reward of one-half of the criminal or civil penalty or $25,000, whichever is less. ?? 4223-4225


From a 1990 publication: http://www.recyclingpoint.com.sg/Articles/1990Jan17BanIvoryTrade.htm
Singapore law restricts all import and export of ivory worked or unworked.

Singapore joined Cites in 1986 and has since introduced legislation to control illegal trading of endangered species of animals.

Action has been taken against 15 traders for violating this law — the Endangered Species (Import and Export) Act. (1990)

Under the Act, anyone who is convicted of the offence is liable to a maximum fine of not more than $5,000 or a jail term not exceeding a year or both.

So anyway you look at it, exporting to a country that has outlawed importation of any ivory is breaking international law.

In reality, the most likely penalty would be confiscation which means the buyer would not get the item and could file a for non-delivery refund with Paypal.
 
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Interesting information.

May I know where did you get these information? I would like to find out more.
 
MasterClass said:
May I know who screwed you? Its a small community here. Should not be too hard to identify the culprit.

There has been reports in the news about alot of fraudsters claiming to be from Singapore but are actually not. So do beware.

If he is an avid pool player, he will most definitately be recognizable. There are only that few places to play pool here. Maybe post pics of your cue that you are selling. Going through a reputable AZer for help with the transact would also be good. Escrow is another option. Just $25-$50 more!

Maybe somewhere u have the info. It was a long time ago. This was before I posted on az. I stayed away from here for a long time and used ebay only. Less drama
 
Shipping to Singapore

Hi Jeff, I can tell you that Via is a straightshooter! No worries for me....not sure about the Ivory -- it's a different question. Be careful & best of luck with your sale! :)


Another AZ'er from Singapore is torqiet....maybe send him a PM too!?
 
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