Need help with balls interfering with rack!
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The chart actually spells it out pretty well. Is there a particular situation(s) that you are having difficulty with? I'd be happy to help if I can.
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Cueball in the rack and breakball not in the rack = cueball in the kitchen.
Cueball AND breakball both in the rack = breakball gets racked with others for a full 15 ball rack and cueball in the kitchen.
Breakball in the rack and cueball NOT in the rack = breakball gets spotted on headspot and cueball remains in position.
Those are the most common but there are other variations of course.
Cueball AND breakball both in the rack = breakball gets racked with others for a full 15 ball rack and cueball in the kitchen.
Breakball in the rack and cueball NOT in the rack = breakball gets spotted on headspot and cueball remains in position.
Those are the most common but there are other variations of course.
OK....I'm looking at the Main Forum Page...And I see, "Need help with my balls....." Well I had a little giggle and had to look at the thread.
I just want to thank you for the giggle...I needed it! I had one of those days, today! Ick!!
Are your referencing the sticky situations that occur when the ball interferes with the removal of the rack? I believe the rules state that if the ball interferes with the racking procedure, it is considered "in the rack" and needs to move as prescribed by the chart.
Likewise, a ball that interferes with spotting a ball, it is considered "on the spot" .
Likewise, a ball that interferes with spotting a ball, it is considered "on the spot" .
Actually the table should always be marked when playing straight pool so that the rack being removed should not ever be an issue.
In the case of those cheapo plastic racks being used on a table with no markings, place the rack upside down as this simulates the thickness of the rack at the OB's equator.
I strongly suggest anyone who plays straight pool on tables that are not marked to visit a welding supply store and purchase a few soapstone sticks. They are about 50 cents. Sharpen one half of the end on the soapstone by placing a piece of sandpaper on the table and holding the soapstone at about a 45 degree angle to get a sharp edge.
Outline your rack area using it and then when you are done simply brush it away. If it is at all stubborn in being removed, a lightly dampened towel paper and the brush will take care of that.
On an aside, one of the most misunderstood end positions is when the OB is in the kitchen and the CB ends up in the rack. Then you place the CB on the head spot and you are allowed to shoot backwards at the remaining OB that is in the kitchen.
In the case of those cheapo plastic racks being used on a table with no markings, place the rack upside down as this simulates the thickness of the rack at the OB's equator.
I strongly suggest anyone who plays straight pool on tables that are not marked to visit a welding supply store and purchase a few soapstone sticks. They are about 50 cents. Sharpen one half of the end on the soapstone by placing a piece of sandpaper on the table and holding the soapstone at about a 45 degree angle to get a sharp edge.
Outline your rack area using it and then when you are done simply brush it away. If it is at all stubborn in being removed, a lightly dampened towel paper and the brush will take care of that.
On an aside, one of the most misunderstood end positions is when the OB is in the kitchen and the CB ends up in the rack. Then you place the CB on the head spot and you are allowed to shoot backwards at the remaining OB that is in the kitchen.
Thanks 3andstop that was the one i was confused with also!:thumbup:
Thanks also selftaut
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sausage
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i never knew this. i would have guessed that the cue would be "ball in hand" behind the head string and that one would be able to shoot directly at the break ball from anywhere behind the head string.
i was playing 14.1 with a guy long ago. i left the cue in the rack and then proceeded to place it behind the head string. he thought that the head of the table was the rack end and i was placing the cue at the wrong end! i couldn't convince him! we then looked at a rule book and the book was fricking WRONG too. lol.... god that was frustrating....
Are you 100% sure about this one? I've always played that you couldn't shoot at the ball that is in the kitchen. We always played in BIH in the kitchen but you had to shoot out of the kitchen first.
MULLY
not arguing, just making sure
Yeah Mully, you can shoot at the ball towards any pocket. The confusion arises because what you say is true when you have the cue ball in the kitchen with BIH , such as after a scratch. Then you cannot shoot at an OB in the kitchen. But in the scenario we are discussing, under special racking considerations, you are not considered to have the cue ball with BIH. And in fact you do not because you cannot place the cue ball anywhere in the kitchen you wish. It MUST be placed on the head spot.
If you have the cue ball with BIH and all OB's are in the kitchen you may spot the one closest to the head string. Of course, this situation would not apply in the scenario we are discussing because you have a fresh rack of 14 balls at the other end, so not all OB's are in the kitchen.
Hope this explanation makes sense.
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