Need your help guys and gals...

Deno J. Andrews said:
Shorty,

I don't know if you know anything about 3-cushion. I played competitively for ten or so years and traveled the country and abroad playing the game. Then I started to get an attitude much like yours. At the time, my high run was 16 in a tournament game (a rough equivilant to a 130-150 ball run in straight pool), and that was after months of playing six days a week. I decided to quit the game and took two years off. In those two years I did not pick up a cue once with the exception of playing a few games of pool with some friends on one or two occasions. After two years off and not picking up a cue in a very long time, I went to Chris's Billiards here in Chicago. I got in a game with a player I have a lot of respect for, and managed to run a 14 in my 5th inning. No practice, nothing.

Billiards, and I suppose pool too, tends to reflect that which is going on in your life. When I quit playing in tournaments, it was so as a result of my needing to prioritize things in my life. Imagine that the cloth is like a canvasse, and the balls and your cue are paints and a brush. No matter how skilled the artist, he can only paint what comes to him; he can't escape the images created in his head. I would go out on a limb and guess that it is not your pool game that is suffering, but rather it is reflecting something else that is bothering you; something that you can't get out of your head when at the table. If that is the case, many would tell you to simply block it out when you play. I find that to be very difficult at times. I would rather try to fix it, and maybe take a few weeks (or years if you need them like I did) off until you do so. If I am off base in all of this, I am sorry. If so, check your mechanics and pre-shot routine :) When I was having problems at the table I used to hope that they were mechanical rather than something in my head. Mechanics are easy to fix...

Good luck,

Deno Andrews

I'd have to say this is the best answer, which as a matter of fact, was verbatim what I was going to write...
 
1pRoscoe said:
I'd have to say this is the best answer, which as a matter of fact, was verbatim what I was going to write...
C'mon, Roscoe! You never ran 16 3c's...stop your lyin!
Did that make you feel better, Shorty?! ;)
 
Deno gave a great answer. I have also felt the same way, feeling fed up with tourneys and practising. Many years ago I wasn't playing well, nor having any success in tournaments. I think my stage of life reflected to my game as well.

I took some time off, didn't go to tournaments, but I played maybe once a month if I felt like it. Like Deno mentioned, the stroke ain't going nowhere, even if you take a break. Just take a break, do something else. Travel somewhere. Read a book (not billiard related). Watch a good movie. Do something else. Forget the pool scene for a while. You should find it refresingly different when you make the comeback with a new enthusiastic mindset.

It happened to me as well, after the break and making my comeback, I actually shot a lot better than before the break. Letting it all sink in during the break, and then starting off fresh can do wonders to your game !

Good luck Shorty ! Don't get depressed, you're not the only one to go through a mental slump.
 
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Timberly said:
It does suck to go through what you're going through. My situation is a tad different because I quit playing altogether about 7 yrs ago so I'm completely out of stoke.


I don't understand something here...you quit playing 7 yrs ago...you get depressed when you try to play because you suck...you vacillate between getting back into it and remaining retired from playing...
YET, and this is a big YET...you live for pool forums...when you go on a vacation you gotta know if there's a pool room anywhere to be found...you travel to events all over hells creation...and you buy pool hustling books to read instead of romance novels.

WTF...are you going to these rooms to try to score drugs because you know that at least half the guys use or can get it? Are you looking for Mr. Right in all the wrong places? Are you waiting to be swept off of your feet by a big name pro and can then travel the country with him on road stints in a broken down rattle trap?

PLUS...you can't even cook for shit!! My suggestion...trade those pool hustling books for some cook books...practice, practice, practice...and then give a few of us a call when you get the best of those dishes down pat. You won't have to travel any more. We'll bring you all the drugs you want as well as our expensive pool cues so you can look, fondle, and pretend like you're playing again. And if you're a REALLY good girl...there might even be a few more surprises for you to enjoy. I'm just not sure you can be a good girl for any length of time though. ;) :D
 
drivermaker said:
I don't understand something here...you quit playing 7 yrs ago...you get depressed when you try to play because you suck...you vacillate between getting back into it and remaining retired from playing...
YET, and this is a big YET...you live for pool forums...when you go on a vacation you gotta know if there's a pool room anywhere to be found...you travel to events all over hells creation...and you buy pool hustling books to read instead of romance novels.

WTF...are you going to these rooms to try to score drugs because you know that at least half the guys use or can get it? Are you looking for Mr. Right in all the wrong places? Are you waiting to be swept off of your feet by a big name pro and can then travel the country with him on road stints in a broken down rattle trap?

PLUS...you can't even cook for shit!! My suggestion...trade those pool hustling books for some cook books...practice, practice, practice...and then give a few of us a call when you get the best of those dishes down pat. You won't have to travel any more. We'll bring you all the drugs you want as well as our expensive pool cues so you can look, fondle, and pretend like you're playing again. And if you're a REALLY good girl...there might even be a few more surprises for you to enjoy. I'm just not sure you can be a good girl for any length of time though. ;) :D

Well, that's not going to make Shorty fell any better...unless he is the "surprise for you to enjoy"! :D
 
drivermaker said:
I don't understand something here...you quit playing 7 yrs ago...you get depressed when you try to play because you suck...you vacillate between getting back into it and remaining retired from playing...
YET, and this is a big YET...you live for pool forums...when you go on a vacation you gotta know if there's a pool room anywhere to be found...you travel to events all over hells creation...and you buy pool hustling books to read instead of romance novels.

WTF...are you going to these rooms to try to score drugs because you know that at least half the guys use or can get it? Are you looking for Mr. Right in all the wrong places? Are you waiting to be swept off of your feet by a big name pro and can then travel the country with him on road stints in a broken down rattle trap?

PLUS...you can't even cook for shit!! My suggestion...trade those pool hustling books for some cook books...practice, practice, practice...and then give a few of us a call when you get the best of those dishes down pat. You won't have to travel any more. We'll bring you all the drugs you want as well as our expensive pool cues so you can look, fondle, and pretend like you're playing again. And if you're a REALLY good girl...there might even be a few more surprises for you to enjoy. I'm just not sure you can be a good girl for any length of time though. ;) :D

I like you drivermaker, but there are several incorrect statements here, based upon what I have read from Timberly's posts on AZB... I think you took this way out of context...
 
Black-Balled said:
C'mon, Roscoe! You never ran 16 3c's...stop your lyin!
Did that make you feel better, Shorty?! ;)

Well..... ummm.....

Honestly, if you take that 1 out, you have hit my high run!! :D
 
When my golf game is struggling, one of the things I've used to break the downward spiral is to play a round with only 3 clubs. I choose the 3 clubs and find all the crazy ways you can play all the shots on the course. Putting with a wedge, hitting a low-screaming-hook 4 iron tee shots, hitting a 7 iron 80 yards once then 180 on the next, etc. It's fun and there is no pressure, with no expectations.

Try the same thing with pool. Throw a handfull of balls on the table and try to make them only with 2-rail banks. Try to kick them in. Make up a game; ask a kid, my daughter thinks up some crazy shit for us to play! :p

Put two object balls and the cue ball on the table and play 3 cushion (watch out for those pockets, though! :p )

The key is to have fun, let your mind absorb the balls rolling around the table in ways you don't normally see, and then getting so sick of it that you can't wait to get back to making balls the good ol'-fashioned way. And, you will, with your brain full of new information to use. Remember how Efren learns? By watching ball-bangers, because their shots are so ab-normal that he sees things that pro's don't do.

If none of that works, buy my Skip! It comes with a ball-making guarantee! :D
 
Hey Shorty, the balls aren’t rolling your way. Sorry to hear that. I think Deno picked up on something. His guess as to other possible happenings away form the table is the same thing I was thinking while reading your initial post.

There are a couple of tourneys coming up, you’re probably aware of, the Orlando Open form 8/3 to 8/7 and Cunninghams in Vero Beach on 8/27 – 28. Maybe you could attend one of those to get re-motivated.

As an aside note, I was fortunate enough to meet Shorty a few months ago and watched him play for about ½ hour. He is a very accurate ball striker and good player, I was impressed.

Hang tough Shorty we all ups and downs.

Rick
 
Deno J. Andrews said:
Shorty,

I don't know if you know anything about 3-cushion. I played competitively for ten or so years and traveled the country and abroad playing the game. Then I started to get an attitude much like yours. At the time, my high run was 16 in a tournament game (a rough equivilant to a 130-150 ball run in straight pool), and that was after months of playing six days a week. I decided to quit the game and took two years off. In those two years I did not pick up a cue once with the exception of playing a few games of pool with some friends on one or two occasions. After two years off and not picking up a cue in a very long time, I went to Chris's Billiards here in Chicago. I got in a game with a player I have a lot of respect for, and managed to run a 14 in my 5th inning. No practice, nothing.

Billiards, and I suppose pool too, tends to reflect that which is going on in your life. When I quit playing in tournaments, it was so as a result of my needing to prioritize things in my life. Imagine that the cloth is like a canvasse, and the balls and your cue are paints and a brush. No matter how skilled the artist, he can only paint what comes to him; he can't escape the images created in his head. I would go out on a limb and guess that it is not your pool game that is suffering, but rather it is reflecting something else that is bothering you; something that you can't get out of your head when at the table. If that is the case, many would tell you to simply block it out when you play. I find that to be very difficult at times. I would rather try to fix it, and maybe take a few weeks (or years if you need them like I did) off until you do so. If I am off base in all of this, I am sorry. If so, check your mechanics and pre-shot routine :) When I was having problems at the table I used to hope that they were mechanical rather than something in my head. Mechanics are easy to fix...

Good luck,

Deno Andrews

Thanks Deno...yeah I had taken a little time away...but I feel as VAP said, I just need some more practice. I also have alot on my plate at work and at home and wanting to finish up my Master's thesis paper. Not to mention school starting back up for the kids and all the spending that goes along with that.

Just stuck in a rut...but going to start back playing nine ball here in the fall on an APA team and that should re-motivate me.

Thanks again Deno, and would love to play some 3c someday...never played it but always wanted a table and to try it.

Shorty
 
Shorty said:
Help me do something here folx...

Where is the fun in the game anymore?

My game has totally disappeared on me as of late..I can't run three balls hardly. I have no idea what's going on in my brain. Maybe its the cue. Maybe its me. Hell if I know.

It's the summer.

Fred <~~~ sux in the summer
 
Shorty said:
Help me do something here folx...

Where is the fun in the game anymore?

My game has totally disappeared on me as of late..I can't run three balls hardly. I have no idea what's going on in my brain. Maybe its the cue. Maybe its me. Hell if I know.

Anybody cheer me up or tell me something to fire me up to get back into pool more serious?

Drivermaker, JimBo where is a good insult when ya need one?

Shorty

Shorty said:
Help me do something here folx...

Where is the fun in the game anymore?

My game has totally disappeared on me as of late..I can't run three balls hardly. I have no idea what's going on in my brain. Maybe its the cue. Maybe its me. Hell if I know.



Shorty

Shorty many years ago, I was told when all else is failing, be it in business, your personal life, or a hobby, or sport like pool. return to the Basic that made you successful.

Maybe you need a New Cue for Physiological Reasons... Hope you Game clears up.. ;)
 
Bruce S. de Lis said:
Shorty many years ago, I was told when all else is failing, be it in business, your personal life, or a hobby, or sport like pool. return to the Basic that made you successful.

Maybe you need a New Cue for Physiological Reasons... Hope you Game clears up.. ;)

New cue...speaking of which I have a custom Titleist 60 inch due in next week. Looking forward to it, may play with it some, but it's basically for my step-son when he is older and ready to take the game up. He already enjoys watching pool with me on the couch, we watch ESPN classic with Mosconi and Moore being our favorites.

I think I need some one pocket action...who wants 9-7? *grin*

Shorty
 
drivermaker said:
I don't understand something here...you quit playing 7 yrs ago

I'm just not sure you can be a good girl for any length of time though. ;) :D
If you had ever paid any attention to anything I've said, you would know the deal by now but since you have a selective memory, let me tell you a little bed time story... There once was a girl named Timberly that enjoyed shooting pool & she was pretty sporty at one point in time. (not a champion but damn good for a girl :rolleyes: ) Anyway, she ends up moving to the godforsaken area that she's in now. She "had" to stop shooting pool after the move. At first she couldn't find a pool room so her only choice was to play on a barbox & there wasn't even one of them in her town. Drive the drive to leave town to play on a barbox... not this girl. Finally after being here a yr she meets someone that tells her about a pool room with 9 ft tables. When she arrived she realized that no alcoholic beverages are served and that many, many kids frequent the joint. After about 30 min of shoothing & being bumped into by teenagers running around and yelling she said F it. (did I mention the tables sucked, they all needed recovered, & it was humind) No thanks. Another pool room opened up & while Bert was in town it was enjoyable to go to & she was starting to get back into the game & starting to shoot a little better. Then Bert left town & she didn't care for some of the people that frequented that room either so she quit going. (it also couldn't serve beer) She still loves to play pool so when she goes out of town on vacation or for the weekend, she likes to find real pool rooms with nice tables, cold beer, & no kids. While it is frustrating because she really sucks at pool now, she still goes because she still loves to play & likes being in a real pool room again. The End.

Here lately I have been in the mood to do some reading & after seeing a few posts about some of the books that're out, I decided to pick some up. I have never, let me repeat NEVER been a romance novel kinda girl. EW!

Leave my lack of cooking abilities out of this! That's why I'm in search of someone to support me... he can take me out to dinner every night! ;)

Good girl... what is that? What does that mean??? It's not in my vocabulary, it's got more than 4 letters.... :cool:

Anymore questions??? :confused: Are you still confused??? Should I have written in big letters with a space inbetween each letter so that you could read it easier old man??? :D :D :D
 
Timberly said:
If you had ever paid any attention to anything I've said, you would know the deal by now but since you have a selective memory, let me tell you a little bed time story... There once was a girl named Timberly that enjoyed shooting pool & she was pretty sporty at one point in time. (not a champion but damn good for a girl :rolleyes: ) Anyway, she ends up moving to the godforsaken area that she's in now. She "had" to stop shooting pool after the move. At first she couldn't find a pool room so her only choice was to play on a barbox & there wasn't even one of them in her town. Drive the drive to leave town to play on a barbox... not this girl. Finally after being here a yr she meets someone that tells her about a pool room with 9 ft tables. When she arrived she realized that no alcoholic beverages are served and that many, many kids frequent the joint. After about 30 min of shoothing & being bumped into by teenagers running around and yelling she said F it. (did I mention the tables sucked, they all needed recovered, & it was humind) No thanks. Another pool room opened up & while Bert was in town it was enjoyable to go to & she was starting to get back into the game & starting to shoot a little better. Then Bert left town & she didn't care for some of the people that frequented that room either so she quit going. (it also couldn't serve beer) She still loves to play pool so when she goes out of town on vacation or for the weekend, she likes to find real pool rooms with nice tables, cold beer, & no kids. While it is frustrating because she really sucks at pool now, she still goes because she still loves to play & likes being in a real pool room again. The End.

Here lately I have been in the mood to do some reading & after seeing a few posts about some of the books that're out, I decided to pick some up. I have never, let me repeat NEVER been a romance novel kinda girl. EW!

Leave my lack of cooking abilities out of this! That's why I'm in search of someone to support me... he can take me out to dinner every night! ;)

Good girl... what is that? What does that mean??? It's not in my vocabulary, it's got more than 4 letters.... :cool:

Anymore questions??? :confused: Are you still confused??? Should I have written in big letters with a space inbetween each letter so that you could read it easier old man??? :D :D :D

Damn I should of married you...my wife hates pool and I can cook like a friggin mad man. I just hate cleaning up. Yes, I can see over the stove Bruce. Amazing what some hydraulics in the seat of my chair can do ;). And I insist on still having a nine footer in the dining room. To hell with a dining room suit! My wife won't even touch a pool cue hardly unless I beg her to take a picture of the pretty stick of wood. *rolls his eyes*

But speaking of books, I finished Harry Potter 6 last night...dang what a good book. I love those stupid things. I swear I will never grow up!

Shorty
 
Shorty said:
I finished Harry Potter 6 last night...dang what a good book. I love those stupid things. I swear I will never grow up!

Shorty
I enjoy the movies and have considered reading the books because they're always better than the movie. I just don't have much time to read anymore & they're such big books that I still haven't gotten around to it.
 
Timberly said:
If you had ever paid any attention to anything I've said, you would know the deal by now but since you have a selective memory,

Should I have written in big letters with a space inbetween each letter so that you could read it easier old man??? :D :D :D


I don't have a selective memory...I just flat out never paid attention to anything you've said.

OK...Let's see here...I have to plan my day tomorrow. What am I going to do and what time should I set my schedule?

1. Go onto AZB
2. STOMP TIMBERLY INTO THE GROUND
3. GET OUT THE STEAM ROLLER AND FLATTEN HER
4. PEEL HER OFF THE GROUND AND BLOW SOME AIR INTO TO BRING HER BACK TO LIFE
5. REPEAT STEPS 2,3, and 4 repeatedly. :D :D :D
 
drivermaker said:
I don't have a selective memory...I just flat out never paid attention to anything you've said.

OK...Let's see here...I have to plan my day tomorrow. What am I going to do and what time should I set my schedule?

1. Go onto AZB
2. STOMP TIMBERLY INTO THE GROUND
3. GET OUT THE STEAM ROLLER AND FLATTEN HER
4. PEEL HER OFF THE GROUND AND BLOW SOME AIR INTO TO BRING HER BACK TO LIFE
5. REPEAT STEPS 2,3, and 4 repeatedly. :D :D :D
(pulling the string) tell us driverdoll, what're you going to do tomorrow?
 
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