Nelsonite vs. Resolute

DiamondDave

DiamondDave

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I am looking for a good and somewhat affordable stabilizer. I have enough wood at this point where I can start to begin turning but I need a stabilizer. On the cue components website he talks a lot about resolute but I want some opinions from the pros. Also I could use some sources for nelsonite. I already made a dipping tank so I don't need one of those.

I appreciate all the help.

Thanks
Dave
 
I'd like to know first why oversized wood need stabilizer?
I don't seal my shafts up until 3 cuts before finish size.
I just use a sealer.
Nelsonite is nasty.
 
JoeyInCali said:
I'd like to know first why oversized wood need stabilizer?
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Well, the obvious reason is because somebody said so. :D :p :D


Seriously though, I do think his base question is a great one. Is there anyone who was using Nelsonite and switched to Resolute, and is able to make comparisons of results between the two?

Kelly
 
I've said this before, but I've never used either, in 20 years of Qmaking. I can't figure out why you would need the stuff. To me you what the wood to move in between cuttings & it will stabilize it"s self. I just made a Q with a 30 inch shaft. That shaft was cut to .530, 14 months ago. It was still straight...JER
 
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BLACKHEARTCUES said:
I've said this before, but I've never used either, in 20 years of Qmaking. I can't figure out why you would need the stuff. To me you what the wood to move in between cuttings & it will stabilize it"s self. I just made a Q with a 3 inch shaft. That shaft was cut to .530, 14 months ago. It was still straight...JER
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I agree you don't need to stabilize wood between turns. But I have found the Nelsonite to help keep the shaft stable if you use it when the cue is down to about .570". Using it before the cue is at least down to .625 is just wasting nelsonite or resolute.
Chris
www.hightowercues.com
www.internationalcuemakers.com
 
Nelsonite WORKS. Its job is to DISPLACE moisture, which greatly reduces one of the major factors in warping. I have never tried the Resolute, but considering the source of recommendation, I will have to wait until someone more reputable chimes in. I agree with others here, use it when your wood is closer to finished size. Why treat wood you are going to cut away?
Nelsonite Chemical Products
(616) 456-7098
2320 Oak Industrial Dr NE
Grand Rapids, Michigan 49505-6018
 
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I use Nelsonite on maybe half my shafts

The others are left with nothing on them. So far I have no definite conclusions in the last few years. But resolute? No idea, but as nasty as Nelsonite is I cannot say it would not be more pleasant to use.
 
Sheldon said:
Nelsonite WORKS. Its job is to DISPLACE moisture, which greatly reduces one of the major factors in warping. I have never tried the Resolute, but considering the source of recommendation, I will have to wait until someone more reputable chimes in. I agree with others here, use it when your wood is closer to finished size. Why treat wood you are going to cut away?
Nelsonite Chemical Products
(616) 456-7098
2320 Oak Industrial Dr NE
Grand Rapids, Michigan 49505-6018
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I have just started using Resolute the past few months. I am not sure if it is as good as Nelsonite or not but it does smell a little better. The one who claims to have located the stuff and got Joe to start selling it is Paul Drexler. Paul said he likes it better than Nelsonite and on his recommendation I bought some.
Chris
www.hightowercues.com
www.internationalcuemakers.com
 
cueman said:
The one who claims to have located the stuff and got Joe to start selling it is Paul Drexler. Paul said he likes it better than Nelsonite and on his recommendation I bought some.
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That works for me too... when I run out of Nelsonite, I may switch. :) Thanks!
 
Maybe we're lucky to live in SoCal Joey where it is dry most the time. After turning several hundred shaft dowels and squares, I can't figure out why Nelsonite/ Resolute would ever be needed. We use lacquer sanding sealer in between turns and store the the cones standing upright. The percentage of shafts that move or keep moving under .600" has to be well under 4%. Of course, every once in a while a piece just keeps moving as it is being cut. Those don't seem to ever work out, even if you let them rest for a few months.

As an experiment, I hogged one of my straight-grained shaft squares down to finish size in about 15 minutes on the EP taper machine, pass after pass. Five weeks later the shaft is still as straight as an arrow! :eek:

Martin




JoeyInCali said:
I'd like to know first why oversized wood need stabilizer?
I don't seal my shafts up until 3 cuts before finish size.
I just use a sealer.
Nelsonite is nasty.
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Your customer must have a real punch stroke with a 3" shaft!:D

Martin




BLACKHEARTCUES said:
I've said this before, but I've never used either, in 20 years of Qmaking. I can't figure out why you would need the stuff. To me you what the wood to move in between cuttings & it will stabilize it"s self. I just made a Q with a 3 inch shaft. That shaft was cut to .530, 14 months ago. It was still straight...JER
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The percentage of shafts that move or keep moving under .600" has to be well under 4%.

:eek: Must be nice.
The humidity here averages around 45-50 but gets low in the 20's too.
That's when they really move.
 
resolute

I can't see using a chemical without reading the MSDS sheet on it,anybody know the other name of resolute? I tried looking it up and couldn't find anything on any MSDS about the chemical.thanks
 
acryloid b72

i use acryloid b72 as a sealer for my shafts. it was developed to use in restoration of old masters oil paintings. its also used to preserve archeology specimens in the field. it penetrates the great, it does not discolor the wood. you desolve it acetone, so the smell isnt too bad. if its good enough for ancient fossils, and old masters oil paintings, i think its good enough for my shafts.
 
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