Anyone direct me to the new 8 ball rule of ball in hand after the break, not behind the head string?
Thankyou
Thankyou
New 8 ball rules
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You can find them on the BCAPL website: http://www.playbca.com/
Here is the direct link: http://playbca.com/Leagues/LeaguePolicies.aspx
4. 8-Ball: The penalty for any foul on the break has changed from ball in hand in the kitchen to ball in hand. Rules 2.3.3(b), 2.3.4, 2.3.5, 2.4.2(a), and 2.4.3 have been changed and consolidated to reflect the change.
Here is the direct link: http://playbca.com/Leagues/LeaguePolicies.aspx
4. 8-Ball: The penalty for any foul on the break has changed from ball in hand in the kitchen to ball in hand. Rules 2.3.3(b), 2.3.4, 2.3.5, 2.4.2(a), and 2.4.3 have been changed and consolidated to reflect the change.
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Looks like 8 ball just got easier...
I don't know how many times I've been on a runable table with no way to start the run from the kitchen.
I don't know how many times I've been on a runable table with no way to start the run from the kitchen.
Interesting.
When the APA changes a long-standing rule, folks are all up in arms about it. Funny how this has flown below the radar.
Oh wait, it's BCAPL doing it. I get it.
I don't think the APA will follow suit. The rule change definitely gives the advantage to the more skilled player. They are about tilting the advantage to the weaker player.
Looks like 8 ball just got easier...
I don't know how many times I've been on a runable table with no way to start the run from the kitchen.
Correct, why should a player be penalized for an opponents foul.
Good rule change :thumbup:
thankyou BCA
I don't think the APA will follow suit. The rule change definitely gives the advantage to the more skilled player. They are about tilting the advantage to the weaker player.
Don't get me wrong, the rule change doesn't bother me one bit. And I don't care if APA adopts it or not. I'll play whichever way the rules allow, and be happy to do so. I just thought it was funny how BCA makes a rule change to something that has been considered "the rule" in 8-ball for many years, and folks are all "cool" with it. Yet if APA changes a rule (slop vs called-pocket) it's breaking with the "real rules of pool" and considered a heresy.
The alphabetical difference amuses me.
Interesting.
When the APA changes a long-standing rule, folks are all up in arms about it. Funny how this has flown below the radar.
Oh wait, it's BCAPL doing it. I get it.
1) BCA is generally trying to make IMPROVEMENTS
2) no comparison between the 2 - totally different philosphy
I love the new rule - been playing ball in hand that way since I took up pool in 1987
I was wondering that myself. The league I play in is dual sanctioned by both so that leaves me wondering which way it's going to go.
All our local tournaments have been playing with 'Vegas' rules..BiH after a scratch on the break...for years. I, for one, am happy for the BCAPL rule change from in the kitchen. As previously stated, it allows one more options for a run out when you can pick your starting point.
Lisa
Lisa
Hmmm
Might be a difference between APA and BCA. Since the BCA basically wrote the book on 8ball rules, when they make a change, it is usually to enhance the game of billiards, not take away from it...... just a thought
Interesting.
When the APA changes a long-standing rule, folks are all up in arms about it. Funny how this has flown below the radar.
Oh wait, it's BCAPL doing it. I get it.
Might be a difference between APA and BCA. Since the BCA basically wrote the book on 8ball rules, when they make a change, it is usually to enhance the game of billiards, not take away from it...... just a thought
Thats what I feel Lisa. Why pentalize the incoming shooter by saying its your shot but here is where you have to shoot from. I appreciate your post & hope before our VNEA league starts this year there will be some answers for this.
Jeff
Then why penalize the breaker by insisting he shoot from the kichen or hit only the first 2 balls?
I think that the game maintains balance by restricting the opening shot on the break. It maintains a defensive component to the game, and 25% of the table isn't really that much of a disadvantage. Scratching on the break should not automatically result in a loss of game in 8 ball. Ball in hand for a good player should result in a run out more than half the time.
I think certain restrictions make for a more competative game.
Look at "break from the box" or all the controversy surrounding Duells soft break in 9 ball. The transition toward 10 ball to try and make the break and run less frequent or reducing the chance of a win on the break. I've played in tourneys where they restricted the pockets where the 9 could fall for a win on the break, and I've played spot the 9 and call the 9 if you're riding it. All designed to give the game balance.
Restricting ball in hand behind the headstring gives 8 ball some balance. Don't get me wrong I'll play it either way. I don't really care what the rule set is as long as everybody plays by the same rule set.
I do have rules I prefer, but I'll play whatever rules you want to play