new experiment for me

desi2960

desi2960

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i have started 2 different cues. i am making a bocote butt and out of the same slab of wood, i am making a bocote shaft, doing the same with walnut.

i have never seen this, anyone ever tried to build a cue with both butt and shaft made of the same wood? i mean other than maple, the cue i use has a fullsplice maple into maple butt and a maple shaft.
 
Just a few thoughts. Wouldn't heavily figured or knotted Bocote promote movement. Especially on a shaft that doesn't see say an epoxy base followed by a few layers of hardened clear.

I would think it could work but I'd probably look for the long straight grained bocote.

Personally I think it would be cool...even if at the very least you did a long collar on the shaft. I think old Palmers had a few. Where there was dots and diamonds moving up the shaft for a good 3-4 inches. Of course you don't need to do anything ornate like that but an extended collar could look cool.

You could clear that and follow it with regular shaft wood.
 
good questions

and i really do not know the answers that why the experiment. hightower told me about 20 years ago that bocote has very little movement, so i am using as clean a piece as i could find. and the reason for the walnut, my buddy and i just bought 2 pickup loads that has been cut about 20 years. i should find what i need there.

the bocote will be done in about a month, we will see what happens then.
 
It'll be really heavy and will smell like mustard .
Bocote points or butterfly at the joint of a maple shaft
might not be too bad.
 
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Hi,

Although I applaud your desire to experiment, there is a reason maple is used for shafts by all Cue makers. Playability and feedback with the taper being the adjustment factor.

While Bacote makes for a great hit concerning the butt, you may find it to be too stiff for a shaft profile.

JMO,

Rick
 
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joeyincali

It'll be really heavy and will smell like mustard .
Bocote points or butterfly at the joint of a maple shaft
might not be too bad.

please explain the really heavy part to me, im just a simple man and cannot understand.

maple 42 lbs per cu ft

bocote 42 lbs per cu ft
 
If the feed back ends up feeling too dense it might end up making for a good break cue. Ala purpleheart.
 
desi2960 said:
It'll be really heavy and will smell like mustard .
Bocote points or butterfly at the joint of a maple shaft
might not be too bad.

please explain the really heavy part to me, im just a simple man and cannot understand.

maple 42 lbs per cu ft

bocote 42 lbs per cu ft
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I'm showing 50 for bocote .
Maple to maple butts sure appear lighter to me.
If your bocote shaft does weigh less than 4.5 oz, then it'll
be alright .
I don't know about the oxidation though.
 
I have done the purpleheart shafts with purpleheart butts, and they were great...for breakers. I am working some bocote now for shafts, but they are a ways from being ready. I plan on them being for breakers also, as the stiffness of the wood and the weight lends itself very well. I think they would be too stiff for most players to use as a playing cue. I have also used Ipe for break shafts and they also have been great for breaking. As far as oxidation, using a good shaft sealer will do ok, just have to really clean the Bocote well with denatured alcohol first then really build up the sealer before finish sanding/waxing to fill the pores enough
Dave
 
noticed

a couple of you said it might be too stiff, i don't know if i have ever seem a shaft too stiff for me. i love really stiff, so this might be a good thing.

the shaft is still over size, but if my math is correct the shaft will be 4.3 oz at .85 by 13mm by 29 inches long.
 
desi2960 said:
a couple of you said it might be too stiff, i don't know if i have ever seem a shaft too stiff for me. i love really stiff, so this might be a good thing.

the shaft is still over size, but if my math is correct the shaft will be 4.3 oz at .85 by 13mm by 29 inches long.
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Look forward to seeing how this comes out Desi! Good luck sir!
 
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