New shaft break in ?

measureman

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I had a guy tell me my new shaft would play better once it's broken in?
He was talking about the wood of the shaft not the tip.
Anybody ever heard of this?
 
The only way I would see that is just by the feel of the shaft. I have problems adjusting to a new clean shaft. Once it gets "broken in" and blued, I am much more comfortable. All about the hand feel and glide for me. I wouldnt guess a new shaft and the exact same shaft a little older would be much different. I may be wrong, look forward to other opinions as I have not thought about that at all.
 
90% of problems are miscommunication.
I think the guy communicated that wrong to you. I would believe what he
meant to say would have been along the lines of you have to get used to
the new shaft. Once you get used to the new shaft then "its broke in."
 
90% of problems are miscommunication.
I think the guy communicated that wrong to you. I would believe what he
meant to say would have been along the lines of you have to get used to
the new shaft. Once you get used to the new shaft then "its broke in."

No. I asked him what he meant and he said that the wood itself needs to be broken in.I had never heard of this before so I made sure that I understood exactly what he was talking about.
He did seem a bit odd to me.
And let me add this. He once told me that the electrical wires in the ceiling of the pool room makes the balls roll off. Did I answer my own question?
Cuesblues (Ted) knows this guy quite well.
 
It might not be BS.

It's very common in acoustic guitars that they sound better as the wood ages and is played. The wood vibrates and the vibration helps the wood settle in over time.

The wood in a cue vibrates too; that's what you "feel" when you talk about feedback from the cue.

But I would caution that a guitar that sounds bad will always sound bad; it's just that good will get better.

If you don't like the feel of the shaft, it isn't going change enough over time that you'll like it.
 
There was a thread on this topic about a year ago, maybe a bit longer. The posts started off reflecting the idea that the user would get to know the shaft better with time. But later, there was quite a bit of support for the notion that the wood improves with use. IIRC, some of the supporting posts came from cue makers (the thread may have been in the Ask the Cue Maker forum). I tend to believe the first group. I would guess that the only way to tell would be to buy a new cue and only use one shaft for an extended period of time. Then replace the tip and compare (be careful to use a tip that is of fairly consistent quality). Perhaps you could run the experiment. Let us know if the used shaft plays better than the unused one.
 
Wouldn't it be nice if shafts played better all by themselves?

Presumably with the right low deflection chalk and 10 years of aging, the balls will make themselves and you can just set up a lawnchair and watch... eventually the cue puts itself away and that's your signal to collect your prize money.
 
Tell your buddy that by hitting balls, the wood fibers can become compressed. That is why after a few hours of shooting poll, you should pull your shaft. Literally!

True. You need to grip your shaft, one hand on the joint and the other hand under the ferrule. Now, exerting equal outward pressure with both hands, stretch the fibers back out.

End the shaft pulling session by gently stroking your shaft from the bottom upward. This will also aid in smoothing the wood fibers back out.

Seriously, tell him that and then the rest of you guys can stand around and have a good laugh watching this guy pull his shaft.

Electrical wires in the ceiling, thats a new one. For me, I go with deflection due to the Earths gravitational pull and the tides. My excuse when the balls roll funny.
 
I would tell your buddy to take it and break it in for you, this would get all the misses out so when he returns it misses are gone. /jk
 
I carefully weighed a brand new shaft recently, after 6 months of play weighed it again. To my surprise it weighed 0.2oz more. The blueing, dirt, ect. changed the weight of the shaft. Perhaps if plays different but I don't know. My oldest shaft I own is my favorite. Play with your new shaft everyday for 20 years and report back.
 
90% of problems are miscommunication.
I think the guy communicated that wrong to you. I would believe what he
meant to say would have been along the lines of you have to get used to
the new shaft. Once you get used to the new shaft then "its broke in."

73.8% of statistics are made up.
 
So if I am able to break in my low-deflection shaft will it become a no-deflection shaft? I'm excited.:grin-square:
 
Proof?

Maybe it is the fact that the person playing the guitar gets used to it and it starts sounding 'better' to him?

Have any tests been done to show that the note holds longer, the vibration is more pure, louder, anything?

I don't buy it in guitars and I don't buy it in cues.

dld

Actually, a study was done a number of years ago by Acoustic Guitar magazine on the subject. At first it was thought that the tone changes due to the finish curing over the years. (Sorry I don't have anything to reference online, I haven't seen that mag in years.) I can attest that an acoustic I made about 15 years ago does have a more balanced tone, and a tighter bass than when it was new.

Then, they began to study the effects of vibration on the wood and determined that it does makes a difference. In fact, they went so far as to design a "shaking machine" that vibrates instruments at some specific frequencies for specific periods of time to determine how, if any, the guitar changes tone. There is a reason those pre-WW2 Martin dreadnoughts are highly sought - they sound the best.

I may do some research and come back to post it, if I have the time.

As far as shaft wood "breaking in" I'm not sure I buy that one. Rock maple is pretty dense, the vibrations are pretty small and short in duration. I can't imagine it making a difference.

JMO - YMMV
Brian in VA
 
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