new shaft coating for maple shafts

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gulyassy

Custom Cues Since 1986
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I have just developed a new shaft coating that will not only keep out the green, blue and oxidation, but it will help keep it strait. And it is as slick as any that you have felt. It is a permanent coating and is much harder than the wood. I have just applied it to my products for about 2 weeks now and am testing it with heat and cold. I have my shaft I play with coated and never use any powder or never wipe it off. I have not tested it in the tournament type conditions yet but this is coming this weekend at Golsboro NC. This new shaft coating does not change the hit or the feel of the shaft. It always feels good. This new coating is available right now. I can apply it to your old shaft or to a new shaft. My new break jump cues and playing cues have this new coating on it. I have been using shaft coatings for the last year and now I have developed it into something that is amazing.
I am now getting a registered trademark for my product.
Mike Gulyassy
 
Interested and curious:
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how does it affect the elasticity of the wood fibers and the flex of the shafts? Does it change anything about the wood fibers on a cellular level? Do you have any idea how it affects the sound of the hit, does it change anything about the compression cycle of the hit? What about the color of the wood? Do you spray it in the shaft, or is it dipped?

Thanks
 
breakshot said:
Interested and curious:
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how does it affect the elasticity of the wood fibers and the flex of the shafts? Does it change anything about the wood fibers on a cellular level? Do you have any idea how it affects the sound of the hit, does it change anything about the compression cycle of the hit? What about the color of the wood? Do you spray it in the shaft, or is it dipped?

Thanks
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It is sprayed and it changes absolutely nothing except it makes it air tight and slick. The material is flexible but very hard.
 
So can people send you a shaft and have you apply this coating? If so how much will you be charging for this?
 
Could you PM me about the cost of a shaft with this coating and custom made to my specs.


Thanks.
 
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Is this coating something we could buy and apply ourselves? Right now I use that bowling alley wax. Would your product be as simple to use?
 
What happens when a shaft gets dented? Are you able to repair it by steaming or other means?
 
AuntyDan said:
So can people send you a shaft and have you apply this coating? If so how much will you be charging for this?
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The cost is $40.00 to apply my new coating. There are some drawbacks to used shafts. If they are not strait when I start they will be the same when I finish. If they are blue or oxidized they will look like this permanently. Usually customers change tapers on shaft or take down the size of shafts which I do for $60.00 plus tip, on my taper machine to make them perfectly strait when completed, and when the maple is new I use the coating which works best. I am having a 90% + no movement in my new shafts now. The cue makers know how many shafts get tossed or complained about because of movement. I used to throw away 50 shaft out of a hundred, even taking a year to process, now I am getting over 90 shaft that stay good. Even if a shaft shows a little movement, it is minimal. My new product stabilizes the wood immediately. The coating can be removed with aggressive sanding which I do not recommend at all. It will stay permanently on the maple unless removed. The shaft is as slick as a player would like and will stay this way. One good point is that if the shaft gets damaged with nicks, it can be stripped and re coated. If your shaft is new and strait I can really make it stable and slick. if it is blue I must sand it before coating. This new product that will help all the cue makers and players improve their equipment. I will have a registered trademark and sales as soon as I can, but for now I can do some in my shop.
 
I just got the test results back a few minutes ago that heat and cold do not affect my coating. It was tested 3 times in each. I will get the shaft back from the lab and let you know if it has moved and how much, also specifics about the temperatures.
 
Still_Learning said:
Is this coating something we could buy and apply ourselves? Right now I use that bowling alley wax. Would your product be as simple to use?
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Bowling alley wax contains turpentine that will destroy some types of tips depending on how they were tanned, and it also contains a non slip, non skid material and I do not think you would want this on your shaft. They tried this 40 years ago. What I have is state of the art material. The base of the material is proprietary information.
 
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gulyassy said:
It is sprayed and it changes absolutely nothing except it makes it air tight and slick. The material is flexible but very hard.
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Mike, sounds good. Does it go into the wood or sit on top of the wood? or a little of both? Also haw many grams does it add to a shaft before and after, I would guess 7-10 grams after it dries. I'm interested in devlopments lie this, thanks for the heads up and best of luck with it-I will follow this carefully-its good stuff and interesting. thanks again, eric
 
Fatboy said:
Mike, sounds good. Does it go into the wood or sit on top of the wood? or a little of both? Also haw many grams does it add to a shaft before and after, I would guess 7-10 grams after it dries. I'm interested in devlopments lie this, thanks for the heads up and best of luck with it-I will follow this carefully-its good stuff and interesting. thanks again, eric
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You know that is a good question. I must weigh the shaft after and see if there is an increase.
 
you said it's permanent so it must permeate the shaft, does that mean if you sand it that it will remain with "your new coating"? If it is that much harder than wood does that stiffen up the shaft and change the hit?
 
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masonh said:
good question
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The fix is a new coat, fix the dent sand out the dirt and a new coating or just more coating, just like new. My new product is actually harder than clear finish, it takes a hit very well, even if you do break through the finish is is not as deep as hitting the unprotected wood. I have just redone a local players shaft and it was a very easy process. I have had my shaft done for a couple of weeks and let several people try it. Even players that grab the cue ball with the shaft, you know hit the balls over to themselves. It still feels good but I know that the finish can be damaged with a hard hit or against something sharp . I am a player that does not grab balls and am as careful as I can be but sometimes accident do happen.
 
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you said it's permanent so it must permeate the shaft, does that mean if you sand it that it will remain with "your new coating"? If it is that much harder than wood does that stiffen up the shaft and change the hit?
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It does not stiffen the shaft because it is flexible. You could remove the finish with sandpaper. but why sand it if it is always slick.
 
gulyassy said:
It does not stiffen the shaft because it is flexible. You could remove the finish with sandpaper. but why sand it if it is always slick.
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Well I wouldn't sand the shaft intentionally but what happens if you get your tip or ferrule changed? From my experience some sanding happens then so I'm curious about what happens.
 
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