New Yellow Micarta .562"x.250"

masonh said:
this micarta is cloth not paper and rolled and molded.it is lighter in weight and stronger than the old paper base material.the hit is similar but the deflection is lower and it seems to generate more spin.i know some will say that more spin is impossible out of a ferrule but trust me it does.
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I think you need to clarify that. The impression was, it was an exact replacement for the original. If I was doing a repair on a South West and the owner wanted it original this is not what the owner would want. It is linen phenolic that happens to have a yellowish tint and is not what people think of as original Micarta as was originally implied.
 
It is linen phenolic that happens to have a yellowish tint and is not what people think of as original Micarta as was originally implied.
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it is not phenolic at all,but thanks for your concern.just b/c i said it is a clth doesn't mean it's a phenolic.i call it new yellow micarta b/c that is what it is.i never implied it was the old or a replacement for SW ferrules.in fact if you will do a search here you will see that i have explained it all countless times b/c guys like you keep on saying things like this.

once again i am selling new yellow micarta.it is micarta.it is yellow.it is new.i don't know why it is so hard to understand for some people.everyone here knows what it is except for a few guys that every once and awhile want to complain about something they have nothing to do with.would i really be selling "old" yellow micarta that is rare and not made anymore for $3 a ferrule if you buy 3 feet,come on man quit trying to cause problems.

sorry if i am being harsh but this is about the 5-6th time i have accused of misleading people or lying about what the product is,and i am not like that.
 
by the way,everyone should have theirs by now so let me know if anyone is still waiting and let me know what you think about it.

if anyone is the slightest bit unhappy with it or feel like they were mislead let me know and i will give you a full refund.
 
I have to agree I love this ferrell material ...I use it with the combination of a Everest tip and it does seem to generate more spin and english ...As Mason says ,some say that is impossible but I have seen it and have to agree, it is all I ask Sly to put on any shafts ...Once I get to the point where I am making and producing my own cues and shafts I hope to make this material my main ferrell material ... I think it plays as good or better then any ferrell material I have used to date.
 
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macguy said:
I think you need to clarify that. The impression was, it was an exact replacement for the original. If I was doing a repair on a South West and the owner wanted it original this is not what the owner would want. It is linen phenolic that happens to have a yellowish tint and is not what people think of as original Micarta as was originally implied.
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All I know Mason has always called it "New Micarta" when ever he discribed these ferrules. I know this stuff plays really good and deflects less too. Try it you might like it. :D
 
bnall said:
All I know Mason has always called it "New Micarta" when ever he discribed these ferrules. I know this stuff plays really good and deflects less too. Try it you might like it. :D
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Decided it is none of my business and deleted my last post.
 
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Micarta contains asbestos the real material does

masonh said:
it is not phenolic at all,but thanks for your concern.just b/c i said it is a clth doesn't mean it's a phenolic.i call it new yellow micarta b/c that is what it is.i never implied it was the old or a replacement for SW ferrules.in fact if you will do a search here you will see that i have explained it all countless times b/c guys like you keep on saying things like this.

once again i am selling new yellow micarta.it is micarta.it is yellow.it is new.i don't know why it is so hard to understand for some people.everyone here knows what it is except for a few guys that every once and awhile want to complain about something they have nothing to do with.would i really be selling "old" yellow micarta that is rare and not made anymore for $3 a ferrule if you buy 3 feet,come on man quit trying to cause problems.

sorry if i am being harsh but this is about the 5-6th time i have accused of misleading people or lying about what the product is,and i am not like that.
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Micarta by name has asbestos in it, which gives it it's properties. the material you have is not Micarta, you can call it whatever you want, it's asbestos free, IT'S NOT MICARTA
 
shotmaker said:
Micarta by name has asbestos in it, which gives it it's properties. the material you have is not Micarta, you can call it whatever you want, it's asbestos free, IT'S NOT MICARTA
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If it is being made for him by Norplex-Micarta then he can call it Micarta. They have the trademark for Micarta.
I am not sure you are right about the asbestos thing. When they stopped making Micarda as we knew it. I contacted I believe it was Westinghouse about it who was making Micarta at the time. I was told that it was used with electrical parts and when it burnet it was poison and they had to change the formula. They still continued to call the new product Micarta but it was no good for ferrules anymore, it would split. That was the end of Micarta as ferrules went. I never heard anything about asbestos from them.
 
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Micarta by name has asbestos in it, which gives it it's properties. the material you have is not Micarta, you can call it whatever you want, it's asbestos free, IT'S NOT MICARTA
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another clueless naysayer,the list just keeps getting longer.all you guys that come on here with all of these boastful claims and accusations should do a little more research before hand.

for the last time,the material i am selling is micarta and it is yellow and no it doesn't split.it is actually quite a bit stronger than LBM and most other common ferrule materials.


asbestos gives it it's properties,wow,that's a good one.:thumbup:

in caes you or macguy or Arnot and any of the other guys who used to say this same old crap would like to put up some money saying it isn't micarta,i am sure we can find someone here at AZ that will hold the money for us.
 
This is how the asbestos micarta was made.
"I apply to the surface of any of the ordinary grades of paper, or to asbestos paper, or the like a coating of a liquid condensation product of phenols and formaldehyde of such character that it is capable of transformation under the action of heat into an insoluble and infusible body. For this purpose, I may use either a liquid condensation product of the character described or a solution of the same in alcohol or other appropriate solvent. This layer is permitted to dry somewhat, when a second sheet of paper is superposed upon the first and similarly treated, or the several layers may be coated and preferably dried before being superposed. The condensation product may be applied to one or both sides of the sheets. The desired number of sheets having been assembled, the composite article is compacted by pressure, with or without the aid of heat. Heat is now applied in order to effect the transformation of the condensation product into an insoluble and infusible body. "
If it's yellow and it's micarta, it's yellow micarta to me.
Mason isn't saying it's ASBESTOS micarta.
 
masonh said:
another clueless naysayer,the list just keeps getting longer.all you guys that come on here with all of these boastful claims and accusations should do a little more research before hand.

for the last time,the material i am selling is micarta and it is yellow and no it doesn't split.it is actually quite a bit stronger than LBM and most other common ferrule materials.


asbestos gives it it's properties,wow,that's a good one.:thumbup:

in caes you or macguy or Arnot and any of the other guys who used to say this same old crap would like to put up some money saying it isn't micarta,i am sure we can find someone here at AZ that will hold the money for us.
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Mason,
I need 3 more feet of that KICK ASS MICARTA, so let me know when you have some more.
 
masonh said:
another clueless naysayer,the list just keeps getting longer.all you guys that come on here with all of these boastful claims and accusations should do a little more research before hand.

for the last time,the material i am selling is micarta and it is yellow and no it doesn't split.it is actually quite a bit stronger than LBM and most other common ferrule materials.


asbestos gives it it's properties,wow,that's a good one.:thumbup:

in caes you or macguy or Arnot and any of the other guys who used to say this same old crap would like to put up some money saying it isn't micarta,i am sure we can find someone here at AZ that will hold the money for us.
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No body doubts you, I am sure you are having it made by Norplex Micarta or you would not use the name. The tern Micarta as it is historically associated with pool ferrules suggests the material used years ago that is so coveted. That, I assume, is why you use the name Micarta and didn't coin a new original name for your product. You want that connection pool players recognize even though the two products are not even remotely the same product. A name does not a product make. Heck yours may even be better but that is irrelevant.
 
Well I got a chance to se it installed on a cue didnt get to hit with it but I liked it alot so far. It has a unique look to it and it has that erie feeling that reck quality and hit.

Let me know when you get some i'll buy several feet to try it or sit on some for future use to.

I think it's winner so far,

Craig
 
Here's my take on this whole nit-picky mess:

Mason has been quite forthcoming as to what this material is and is not. There has been no subterfuge here. Additionally...he has been kind enough to offer up this material for others to use, at a reasonable price. This stuff looks and plays great...he could have just kept it to himself, as it would have made his cues all that more desirable for play. But he didn't do that...he found a great product, and was willing to share it with others here.

If some of you feel that it is 'suspect'...then take a pass, but making potentially negative posts in this thread is no less offending than someone making negative posts in someone's thread in the Wanted/For Sale Forum...it is poor form, and highly frowned upon. If you wish to strike up a conversation as to this material's relationship to Micarta...then that would be best served in a separate thread, where it is not impacting directly one's sales.

Lisa
 
shotmaker said:
Micarta by name has asbestos in it, which gives it it's properties. the material you have is not Micarta, you can call it whatever you want, it's asbestos free, IT'S NOT MICARTA
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Lets simplify this for you.


Old Corvette

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Old Micarta

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New Corvette

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New Micarta

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Do you guys get the analogy?
 
i like the analogy and thanks for the support guys and girls.i will start a new thread when i get the next batch in.the tube should be less than 2 weeks and the rod maybe a month or two.

The tern Micarta as it is historically associated with pool ferrules suggests the material used years ago that is so coveted. That, I assume, is why you use the name Micarta and didn't coin a new original name for your product.
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assumptions are dangerous.i call it micarta or aka mikarda b/c that is what it is,plain and simple.no master plan behind it,and for those that still; have doubts,the window is open.
 
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