And he’ll still beat the shit out of anyone below him in this current list. Maybe even above him up including Sky.
Nick Varner is a Fargorate 777
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that's crazy strong
I know...I know....all Fargo Ratings are equal.
But let's pretend that they aren't for a second and consider what type of player would outrun their overall rating if they switched to playing only bar table pool. Varner is maybe a perfect example. Great knowledge, excellent banker, great cue ball, but no longer world-class pocketing. Who else would fit this description? How about this group -- Chohan, Thorpe, Frost, and Deuel. I don't think any of these 4 pocket balls as well as their rating would dictate. Although, they could outrun that deficiency on the bar table. Plus, they could all probably outbreak Varner.
But let's pretend that they aren't for a second and consider what type of player would outrun their overall rating if they switched to playing only bar table pool. Varner is maybe a perfect example. Great knowledge, excellent banker, great cue ball, but no longer world-class pocketing. Who else would fit this description? How about this group -- Chohan, Thorpe, Frost, and Deuel. I don't think any of these 4 pocket balls as well as their rating would dictate. Although, they could outrun that deficiency on the bar table. Plus, they could all probably outbreak Varner.
Varner's 777 is 7/6ths of 666........<ducking for cover>.........
I don’t know about the others but Deuel is really strong on a barbox.
They are all strong but others are stronger.
Jim Rempe would have absolutely been over 800.
Don't know about all that... I played Tony in the 9 ball at DCC last year, played REAL good on him, and lost 9-5. I think he missed either 1 or 2 balls, on those 4 1/4" (4 1/8"?) pockets. I don't think I would bet against him versus Josh Roberts at all. Actually, I probably bet on Tony in that game.
I agree. Tony is an underrated 9 ball player. He's capable of beating anyone.
Frost thought the same. SVB quickly corrected him in TAR 15, score 150-104, year 2009.
Van Boening dominates Frost in Action Challenge Match - News - AZBILLIARDS.COM
After taking a 50-29 lead over Scott Frost after one day of play, Shane Van Boening extended that lead to 100-63 after two days of play and finished the Barbox 9-Ball Action Challenge Match with a final score of 150-104. Van Boening had the advantage on the break as Frost seemed to struggle with his
I like Tony, he's agreat player and a good guy, but Josh's break is so big its hard to hold him. If the table breaks good I dont think it'll be close, but I'd like to see it!
By "outrun" I didn't mean they could keep up with the top ranked players in the WORLD. Just that they would perform better than their "average" Fargo Rating over the long term. Possibly like Varner has done. I still think it's probably the case. Of course, not everyone. Just players here and there.Frost thought the same. SVB quickly corrected him in TAR 15, score 150-104, year 2009.
Van Boening dominates Frost in Action Challenge Match - News - AZBILLIARDS.COM
After taking a 50-29 lead over Scott Frost after one day of play, Shane Van Boening extended that lead to 100-63 after two days of play and finished the Barbox 9-Ball Action Challenge Match with a final score of 150-104. Van Boening had the advantage on the break as Frost seemed to struggle with hiswww.azbilliards.com
Nick is not only one of the best players of all time and one of my favorite players ever, but he is also a friend.
That said, this Fargo is probably an accurate assessment of Nick’s continuing excellence at one pocket and cannot logically be used as an indication of his current nine ball speed. At nine ball, Parica at 60 was definitely no more than 760. Are we being asked to believe that Varner in his mid 70s would have been the clear favorite over the 60 year old version of Parica? Please.
That said, this Fargo is probably an accurate assessment of Nick’s continuing excellence at one pocket and cannot logically be used as an indication of his current nine ball speed. At nine ball, Parica at 60 was definitely no more than 760. Are we being asked to believe that Varner in his mid 70s would have been the clear favorite over the 60 year old version of Parica? Please.
shooter_Hans
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I thought Fargo ratings were the equivalent to 'strength of schedule' in college football. Lets say two players are 600 rating but they are both not equal. One guy can have a 'quality loss' as they like to say in football. Meaning losing to 750's and above all day. The other 600 guy can be beating up 400-500 all day.
I was told this is how Fargo ratings operates.
I was told this is how Fargo ratings operates.
yes but presumably varner isn't playing 780 players
I'd put money on him to beat the next 5.
Mr Bob. Has anyone stumped you on an AZBilliard forum question? You are better than GOOGLE.
shooter_Hans
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It's funny because I met Nick Varner once and didn't know who he was at the time.
In my mid 20's I was playing pool religiously but never followed professional pool. It was not a spectator sport like it is now. To me it was just a bunch of pool players that use to be on TV. Basically a 'has been'.
Anyways, I walked into a dead pool room one afternoon and proceeded to the bar. I sat down and ordered a beer. An old gentleman sneaks up on me and slid an autograph picture on the bar towards me. I didn't really make eye contact with him and just looked at the picture. I politely slid it back and said "No thanks!"
A few minutes later, one of the regulars there told me he was Nick Varner. Still didn't know who he was.
It wasn't till a few years later I realized who he really was and his contribution to pool. ROFL
Fast forward 20 years later....I like Nick Varner.
In my mid 20's I was playing pool religiously but never followed professional pool. It was not a spectator sport like it is now. To me it was just a bunch of pool players that use to be on TV. Basically a 'has been'.
Anyways, I walked into a dead pool room one afternoon and proceeded to the bar. I sat down and ordered a beer. An old gentleman sneaks up on me and slid an autograph picture on the bar towards me. I didn't really make eye contact with him and just looked at the picture. I politely slid it back and said "No thanks!"
A few minutes later, one of the regulars there told me he was Nick Varner. Still didn't know who he was.
It wasn't till a few years later I realized who he really was and his contribution to pool. ROFL
Fast forward 20 years later....I like Nick Varner.
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