Niels Feijen - Danny Harriman, Niels ran 91 and out

Roy Steffensen

Roy Steffensen

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First round win at the WC 14.1

Howdie, Just done with my first group match vs Danny Harriman. In the group with 8 players total so you play everybody once. 7 matches over the first 3 days and the first 4 continue to the last 32. Danny put himself on 49-9 after 2 innings. He played a safe after his breakshot but left me a cut to the corner. I made it and ran 91 and out! Have to play Bob Maidof in about 90 min.


From Niels' website www.nielsfeijen.nl
 
It's great to see that Niels is getting fired up already, which is a very good win, especially against Danny Harriman, who's definitely right up there with the rest of the top guns of straight pool :)

Thanks for posting this Roy :thumbup:

Willie
 
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Yeah, I believe Niels will win it all this year. Great for him to get a good run in the first match, against one of the very very best Americans.
 
I was watching this match and wanted to know if I did the right thing. With the score 47-9 in favor of Danny, Danny broke the balls and made his break shot plus another ball, but was snookered for his next shot. He played safe but left Neils with a shot. I saw Danny only mark one ball in his favor, and I said something to my buddy. We counted the balls on the table to make sure and there were 13 balls left. Neils runs out and they post the score 48-22. Danny starts to rack and I tell him he actually had two, that he made an extra ball on his break shot. Neils questioned me as to what pocket and I told him that there were 13 balls on the table when he started. I think I pissed him off (not my intent) because he really played great after that. I have always enjoyed his game and Danny's and that is why I was on the corner watching the match.

Should I have said anything or not?
 
metallicane said:
I was watching this match and wanted to know if I did the right thing. With the score 47-9 in favor of Danny, Danny broke the balls and made his break shot plus another ball, but was snookered for his next shot. He played safe but left Neils with a shot. I saw Danny only mark one ball in his favor, and I said something to my buddy. We counted the balls on the table to make sure and there were 13 balls left. Neils runs out and they post the score 48-22. Danny starts to rack and I tell him he actually had two, that he made an extra ball on his break shot. Neils questioned me as to what pocket and I told him that there were 13 balls on the table when he started. I think I pissed him off (not my intent) because he really played great after that. I have always enjoyed his game and Danny's and that is why I was on the corner watching the match.

Should I have said anything or not?
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You should not have said anything.

Would you have told the other player if you noticed a foul, for example a touch, or a double-hit, and both players just acted as nothing ever happened?

If Niels would want to be an a$$ he could just ask the tournament director to make you leave the room. This has happened before when people in the audience are trying to "judge" in matches.

I understand you didn't mean anything by saying what you did, but don't ever talk to the players during a match. If they disagree on something, a ref should solve the problem.
 
You are correct and I certainly did not want to become part of the match. Like I said, I like both players, but also I did not want either guy to lose because they didn't see a ball go in. I should have said something right when Danny only marked up a ball (if at all). I am very happy Niels went on that great run though. He looks determined and will be tough to beat.
 
1.9 Outside Interference
The referee should ensure that interference is prevented, for example by a spectator or a player on an adjacent table, and may suspend play as needed. Interference may be physical or verbal.
When outside interference occurs during a shot that has an effect on the outcome of that shot, the referee will restore the balls to the positions they had before the shot, and the shot will be replayed. If the interference had no effect on the shot, the referee will restore the disturbed balls and play will continue. If the balls cannot be restored to their original positions, the situation is handled like a stalemate.
 
Roy Steffensen said:
Yeah, I believe Niels will win it all this year. Great for him to get a good run in the first match, against one of the very very best Americans.
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Yeah, I hear ya on that one :), Niels is always a big contender for any pool tournament, he's got the stroke, the ability and he's definitely got the hunger to win :), and of course, Straight Pool seems to bring out the best in Niels' game, and so, it wouldn't suprise me if he started turning it up another notch :)

Nick, Ralph, Oliver, Thorsten, Thomas and Jasmine are also major contenders for the title and so, I'll be keeping an eye open on the lastest results :)

Is there anyone keeping score of the high runs of the event? :), it would be nice to see a few 150's in the tourney :)

Willie
 
TheWizard said:
Yeah, I hear ya on that one :),

Is there anyone keeping score of the high runs of the event? :), it would be nice to see a few 150's in the tourney :)

Willie
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No 150s until we get to the next round.

MIka opened with an 88 against Bobby Hunter.

An older black dude named Earl Herring opened with a 53 on Corey and Corey ran 100 and out. Later, D
 
Roy Steffensen said:
(pointed out a mis-score) You should not have said anything. ...
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I disagree. Pointing out a scoring error when there is no referee or scorekeeper is a lot different from shouting out, "Shoot the 3 not the 4," at nine ball. If there had been a scorekeeper, and the score was wrong, it would have been appropriate to whisper a correction in his ear. It would have been better to make the correction before Niels' inning started, however.
 
Corey's firing 'em in nicely :), thanks for the update Dennis :thumbup:

Any other big runs so far? :)

Willie
 
Bob Jewett said:
I disagree. Pointing out a scoring error when there is no referee or scorekeeper is a lot different from shouting out, "Shoot the 3 not the 4," at nine ball. If there had been a scorekeeper, and the score was wrong, it would have been appropriate to whisper a correction in his ear. It would have been better to make the correction before Niels' inning started, however.
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I couldn't disagree more with this view or less with the view of roy steffensen.
Ok. maybe if this was a friendly matchup but it wasn't. It is a major event.
The players keep score, or the ref, or scorekeeper, or whoever. for any spectator to call attention to a scoring errror is dead wrong, and very well could have influenced the outcome of the match. I know I am influenced by distractions away from the game. Most people are. Niels could be as well. Maybe he would have ran the game out anyway,maybe not. Maybe it fired him up. We will never know. This isn't football or baseball where the players expect some interaction with the fans. c,mon
steven
 
Neils is something to behold. He looks like a machine that doesn't have a miss in it.
About getting involved, why is it okay for the players to enlist the support of the crowd at times and then expect the crowd not to get involved, at times? The reason people go is to get closer to the players, in essence, to get more involved in the matches. If they see something wrong that can be corrected without a fuss and at the appropriate time, I would think the players would be up for that, to an extent. If it got out of hand, then action could be taken. But they have to be used to being interrupted. The tables in this event are very close to one another. They are constantly stopping to allow the adjacent table to play.
 
bluepepper said:
The tables in this event are very close to one another. They are constantly stopping to allow the adjacent table to play.
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There should always be plenty of space between the tables to allow ALL players to shoot freely without any traffic problems that would interrupt a player's rhythm or concentration

There is nothing as damn annoying as getting into a nice rhythm and running balls, when all of a sudden you gotta break your rhythm to wait for the guy/gal on the next table to shoot their shot, which to me is not acceptable when playing in any kind of a major tournament, but that's just my own views on it :)

Willie
 
bluepepper said:
Neils is something to behold. He looks like a machine that doesn't have a miss in it.
About getting involved, why is it okay for the players to enlist the support of the crowd at times and then expect the crowd not to get involved, at times? The reason people go is to get closer to the players, in essence, to get more involved in the matches. If they see something wrong that can be corrected without a fuss and at the appropriate time, I would think the players would be up for that, to an extent. If it got out of hand, then action could be taken. But they have to be used to being interrupted. The tables in this event are very close to one another. They are constantly stopping to allow the adjacent table to play.
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Jeff,

Imagine if for example John Schmidt is playing Ralf Souquet, in the single elimination, race to 150. Ralf Souquet is on 149, John Schmidt is at the table, only needing 10 balls, everything is wide open with 3 balls lying in the pockets. A miss from John is loss of the match.

Then it happens. John unfortunately touch a ball with his finger. For some reason John doesn't notice, and Ralf doesn't notice, and John is about to shoot.

What would you do? Would you shout out FOUL?
 
Roy Steffensen said:
Jeff,

Imagine if for example John Schmidt is playing Ralf Souquet, in the single elimination, race to 150. Ralf Souquet is on 149, John Schmidt is at the table, only needing 10 balls, everything is wide open with 3 balls lying in the pockets. A miss from John is loss of the match.

Then it happens. John unfortunately touch a ball with his finger. For some reason John doesn't notice, and Ralf doesn't notice, and John is about to shoot.

What would you do? Would you shout out FOUL?
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No. I wouldn't and I would hope no one would. And honestly, I wouldn't ever care enough to point out anything to the players. I'm just there to watch the show. But I can see why someone who does care might point it out during a lull in the play.
Actually, there was a match between Schmidt and Vidal yesterday where from the sidelines I believe Bobby Hunter got involved. This was an odd case that ended strangely. John apparently played for 1 fewer than he needed and ended up with a difficult combination after realizing he needed 1 more. He missed the combination and Vidal ran 35 or so and out to win 100-99. I wasn't watching that match intently so I don't know exactly how it went down.
 
bluepepper said:
Neils is something to behold. He looks like a machine that doesn't have a miss in it.
About getting involved, why is it okay for the players to enlist the support of the crowd at times and then expect the crowd not to get involved, at times? The reason people go is to get closer to the players, in essence, to get more involved in the matches. If they see something wrong that can be corrected without a fuss and at the appropriate time, I would think the players would be up for that, to an extent. If it got out of hand, then action could be taken. But they have to be used to being interrupted. The tables in this event are very close to one another. They are constantly stopping to allow the adjacent table to play.
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Niels is incredible, I agree. However...

Waiting for another player is a part of the game.

The players can do anything they want, They are the players.
Some players like to bring the crowd in, that's their personality. Maybe it loosens them up. I don't know.
Some don't.

you say: If they see something wrong that can be corrected without a fuss and at the appropriate time, I would think the players would be up for that, to an extent.

What extent would that be? Who would decide when that extent is reached? How would someone know which players would be up for that, and which wouldn't?
The people are spectators only. Sit, Watch Enjoy and...SHUT UP
steven

ps, please turn off cell phones.
 
TheWizard said:
There should always be plenty of space between the tables to allow ALL players to shoot freely without any traffic problems that would interrupt a player's rhythm or concentration

There is nothing as damn annoying as getting into a nice rhythm and running balls, when all of a sudden you gotta break your rhythm to wait for the guy/gal on the next table to shoot their shot, which to me is not acceptable when playing in any kind of a major tournament, but that's just my own views on it :)

Willie
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This has nothing to do with Niels' great effort, but it was intersting to watch the dynamics occurring as Schmidt and Harriman were at tables right next to each other. They both went out of their way to not come close to interferring with the other guy. I hope the bad blood between them subsides.
 
Metallicane. In retrospect, how do you feel right now about your involvement in the match?
 
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