This table can be found at the Golden Fleece Billiards room in Bothell, WA. One of the nicest room in this country I've been in. No music, no video games...just POOL!!! And plenty of it...and HARRY..."The beast" Plattis!!!
Glen
Glen
Nightmare Diamond one pocket table...LOL
- Thread starter realkingcobra
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It plays beautiful though, balls WILL go in if they're hit right...LOL, but...no cheating the pockets on THIS table...hehebranpureza said:Wow that's really nice work you do... I mean from what my untrained eye can tell. That table looks retarded tight though.
Glen
Looks nice Glen !!! It must be the lighting, but the completed table looks like it has ripples...
I'll bet it plays alot like my 4" pocketed GCI.
Later,
Russ......
I'll bet it plays alot like my 4" pocketed GCI.
Later,
Russ......
Russ,
that table is gonna play ALOT harder than your table, first the shelf is alot deeper, also the down angle of the facing is brutal too. It is a great 1P table for sure. That prop bet Gabe made 60 on at the Derby wont happen on this table. 8 and out is tough enough on that box. Personally for me that table is just to hard, I like making balls, it would be a good 3 cushion billiard table for me
I might not make a ball all week on it,
that table is gonna play ALOT harder than your table, first the shelf is alot deeper, also the down angle of the facing is brutal too. It is a great 1P table for sure. That prop bet Gabe made 60 on at the Derby wont happen on this table. 8 and out is tough enough on that box. Personally for me that table is just to hard, I like making balls, it would be a good 3 cushion billiard table for me
I might not make a ball all week on it,realkingcobra said:
Just hit them to the back of the pocket. Nice work, table looks great.
Very nice work,looks like a 1 pocket players dream or nightmare. 
That Table is PERFECT!!!! Damn Bro Move to the EAST COAST.....please????? lol...
Believe this or not, but thats my dream table, Ive always wanted and table shimmed like that, and you sir did a fabulous job! Truely a Professional...
SPINDOKTOR
Believe this or not, but thats my dream table, Ive always wanted and table shimmed like that, and you sir did a fabulous job! Truely a Professional...
SPINDOKTOR
Fatboy said:Russ,
that table is gonna play ALOT harder than your table, first the shelf is alot deeper, also the down angle of the facing is brutal too. It is a great 1P table for sure. That prop bet Gabe made 60 on at the Derby wont happen on this table. 8 and out is tough enough on that box. Personally for me that table is just to hard, I like making balls, it would be a good 3 cushion billiard table for me
Ya, the slate is deeper, so I also think that it would play a little harder, but not ALOT harder.
I also would like to give it a go and see for myself!
Russ....
On GC's especially the 1's & 2's, the slate shelfs are not only short, they're tapered inward, making them even shorter. Place a straight edge across the pocket and see how much of the ball sticks out over the line of the pocket opening, that'll give you an idea as to how deep the slate shelf is on this Diamond, as the ball is all the way inside of the points of the pocket...and still sitting there...haha. Also, it makes a big difference as to what the pocket angles are when comparing pockets, as with this table, the pocket angles are at 141 degrees, tapering the pocket tighter as the balls get deeper in the jaws of the pocket, but if hit correctly, they go in nicely, but you're not going to get away with coming into contact with the cushion before entering the pocket, unlike GC's with 4" pockets, the ball is either in or it's out because you can't have any hangers with the shorter slate shelfspoolhustler said:
Glen
I assure you, there are no ripples in my rail workpoolhustler said:
Glen
At the Golden Fleece Billiards room, in Bothell, WA. about 20 minutes north of SeattleAZE said:
Glen
I normally don't tighten pockets tighter than 4 1/2" but this table was an exception to my rules
Pocket sizes
"Corner pocket angles are cut at 141 degrees.
With a 12 degree down angle. "
I understand looking at the balls in the corner pocket what you have done, but it might help us novices understand these other angles if you could post a photo and add a drawing of these angles drawn in a highly contrasting color.
A discussion of practical ranges of each and their effects on play / pocketing balls would help.
Your example table highlights that it is not just the pocket opening size.
Like the opening in a soccer goal, hockey goal, and basketball goal - I am sure some tolerance beyond the width of the ball is needed - but there seems to be no standard. Many tournaments just use what tables the place where they are held happen to have.
It be good to discuss examples of what can be ordered new from Diamond (who you are familiar with) - versus having to modify what is there to tighten up pockets.
Glen - excellent post as we have come to expect from you and very nice work.
"Corner pocket angles are cut at 141 degrees.
With a 12 degree down angle. "
I understand looking at the balls in the corner pocket what you have done, but it might help us novices understand these other angles if you could post a photo and add a drawing of these angles drawn in a highly contrasting color.
A discussion of practical ranges of each and their effects on play / pocketing balls would help.
Your example table highlights that it is not just the pocket opening size.
Like the opening in a soccer goal, hockey goal, and basketball goal - I am sure some tolerance beyond the width of the ball is needed - but there seems to be no standard. Many tournaments just use what tables the place where they are held happen to have.
It be good to discuss examples of what can be ordered new from Diamond (who you are familiar with) - versus having to modify what is there to tighten up pockets.
Glen - excellent post as we have come to expect from you and very nice work.
that's a very interesting question which reminds me of what I would like to know.robertno1pool said:
Usually I play at quite a tight table (compared to regular commercial tables around), but last night it was occupied and I had to play on one of those "bucket" things. Not buckets really, but big enough. And I was embarrassed several times watching the bal rattle in the jaws at smth below pocket speed! The balls were reflected from one cheeck of the corner pocket to the other and remained on the table.
So here goes my question: is there any industry standard recommended for diffferent pocket openings? I'm sure here no-one pays attention to proper cut angle of the pocket opening, which usually results in a table (either tight or not) playing bad.
Would like to know these angles in order to provide 'em to local poolroom owners. Hope they are concerned about opinion of players who have to use their equipment.
As soon as I get this 9ft Diamond ProAm set up in Studio City for this Tuesdays event, I'll take some time to break down the in's and out's of the pockets and slate shelfs on pool tables in laymans terms
Glen
Glen
That's the bevel angle of the facing in the pocket, 90 degrees would be standing straight up and down like a flat wall the balls would hit against.jsp said:
Glen