No more posting til' after Reno

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Grady

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Since there seem to be mathematicians here, allow me to impart some figures of my own, as regards my bona fides for refereeing. I directed 40 events for other people and promoted 20 of my own, with an average of 75 players per tournament. Most of them were double elimination. That's roughly 150 matches per event X 40 = 6,000 matches with let's say an average of 8 games a match, equalling 48,000 games. Not once was there a time where my decision or judgement was questioned. I also was often asked to referee big gambling matches or still to this day I'll get asked to make a call at somebody else's tournament.
Look, it's bad enough that I got an awful call and I'm sorry that I've always had a really hard time getting past such matters. But this haunts me and I'm tired of defending myself further, especially when guys state firmly that it was clearly a bad hit. Gentlemen who have said that, where are your bona fides?
Sometimes, after some years, it has turned out that I was right, like the Pat Fleming incident, where Mr. Fleming got to messing around with some balls one day and realized that I was right--- or the Efren shot where I said it was a ball first and very legal hit and two or three years later all the experts who knew of this said I was once again correct.
I don't see that I have much to gain and a lot to lose by allowing unqualified people to get under my skin on this forum. So I'm done posting til' after Reno at least.
I'm also quite tired of hearing that the referees were tired. Even tired officials stand in the right place and can make correct calls.
 
We did not see the shot Grady. No one has questioned what you have accomplished in your life. I am envious of you.

Not blindly accepting what you say is not the same as saying that you are some kind of fool or being untruthful. It just seems like you have taken this too hard. I would think that with everything you have seen in your life that this would just be a pothole. I wish you well.
 
Grady, that was a super bad call. It happened, and I know it messed with your mind badly. Look at it this way. If it were a double elimination - it would be more of a negative impact than a round robin. With the round robin - you've got 3 other matches to get back and make it right. I know it messes up your thinking for the rest of the matches, but part of being a champion (and I know you know this) is the ability to focus and get past negativity and bad situations and get back to focusing on the game and bringing your game to the table. I know it is worse than say a player who dogs a 2ft 8-ball straight in and then lets that bother them the rest of the match because the call against you wasn't of your own doing. That makes it a little worse. Either way - suffering over this call is not productive to your game or your goals at this point and time. The goal now is to get your mind back in killer-mode and get ready for Reno.


You've got Reno, you've got London, you've got Illinois...3 more tournaments to play your game and do your thing. (4 more if you make top 41) Look forward, not back. There's a lot more pool to be played!

Good luck! :)
 
Grady,
I only post this because you state that you have had 48,000 games of unquestionable judgement, etc etc. I wasn't there so my facts might be off. If so, I apologize. But, I heard stories of the FIRST Bank Ring Game that you promoted at the DCC where you changed the rules as the event was going on. Something about a player shooting what amounted to a safety compared to a legitimate attempt to bank a ball. I never really got the whole story so since you were there I am sure that you can please clarify this for me?

Good luck in Reno. When I think of Reno I think about the tournament you had there where the entry fee was $1100 and last place paid $1000. That was ingenious & I can't believe no one ever followed up with the casinos to repeat something like that. I am sure the casino in Reno was very happy that they had 60 pool players, or whatever, around with a minimum of $1000 each to gamble/lose.
 
I don't think that any player should tell a referee where to stand to watch a shot during a match. Being a referee is a very difficult job and many referees are just not as good as a good player would be.
 
The cue ball just slightly thinned the stripe ball before pocketing the 8. It would been a great 1 pocket shot but you just got a bad roll. It happens to all of us. god bless.
 
Hey Grady...even if you did get a bad call you gotta move on bro! You have made your point. Leave the negative energy behind and focus on what is in front of you. Most of us realize you have played and gambled at the highest levels and that you are steeped in pocket billiard tradition and knowledge. No need to be on trial here.

Best wishes,

Martin



Grady said:
Since there seem to be mathematicians here, allow me to impart some figures of my own, as regards my bona fides for refereeing. I directed 40 events for other people and promoted 20 of my own, with an average of 75 players per tournament. Most of them were double elimination. That's roughly 150 matches per event X 40 = 6,000 matches with let's say an average of 8 games a match, equalling 48,000 games. Not once was there a time where my decision or judgement was questioned. I also was often asked to referee big gambling matches or still to this day I'll get asked to make a call at somebody else's tournament.
Look, it's bad enough that I got an awful call and I'm sorry that I've always had a really hard time getting past such matters. But this haunts me and I'm tired of defending myself further, especially when guys state firmly that it was clearly a bad hit. Gentlemen who have said that, where are your bona fides?
Sometimes, after some years, it has turned out that I was right, like the Pat Fleming incident, where Mr. Fleming got to messing around with some balls one day and realized that I was right--- or the Efren shot where I said it was a ball first and very legal hit and two or three years later all the experts who knew of this said I was once again correct.
I don't see that I have much to gain and a lot to lose by allowing unqualified people to get under my skin on this forum. So I'm done posting til' after Reno at least.
I'm also quite tired of hearing that the referees were tired. Even tired officials stand in the right place and can make correct calls.
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This is a public forum and as such, many people read the posts and formulate their own opinions as to the accuracy of the statements made. To some degree, those few who are esteemed in the sport as you are, Grady, get the benefit of the doubt by some, but that does not mean that everybody will/must agree with your statement of what you believe is fact in regards to the hit in question.

The fact that some here disagree with you, in itself, is sufficient to raise doubt in some of our minds. Most everybody at this forum did not see the hit in question. Was it a good hit?.... or a bad hit?... collectively, we don't know.

But... if you feel the need to take your ball and go home... so be it. Life goes on. Not everybody needs to play all the time. Take a break from posting... it appears that you need to.
 
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