Evidently, pro snooker is racked with the 6 frozen on the head ball. the way they played in CA, the 6 used to be on the spot and the displaced red on top of it. I'm not quite sure if you can get the head ball from the D either.
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I missed that, you are right. Being new to the rules, I thought the player could smash that actual pink head ball. But since the player has to contact a red first, that's even more evidence that the rack won't fly apart like a pool 8 all rack, since it's a glancing hit.
Jimmy White did just fine from the back.
No. It is forbidden by the rules for the pink to be touching the reds at the start of the game. Whenever a ball is spotted, it must not be touching any other ball.
As far as the possibility of a 147, if you give Corey a month to prepare and let him rack the reds, I think you don't want to bet against. In case Corey racks and Ronnie does the shooting, ....
Got it. I presumed the six was frozen since the game I was shown had the 6 on the spot and a red frozen in front.
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Ronnie was doing an exhibition once and they spread out the balls to give him the best chance at a maximum for the audience. He told them that he'd have a much better shot at it if they were more like all the 147s he's hit before with the balls packed together so he can play his most familiar, comfortable shots. So maybe the spread break makes a clearance much easier, but not a 147 where you have to get on the black from all types of spots 15 times.
No, that was initially the point. Can someone do a legit 8 ball type break and run a 147.C'mon now, are you moving the Goal posts?
All that kick break does is keep the cue ball down on the 7 ball and the first red.
I'd love to see it. Really. I want to see someone have to bank a ball, do some hard cuts, play full table shape, etc.
They do all of that now.
RARELY do they bank a ball to try and make it. Lots of bank or carom to play a safety though.They do all of that now.
The best I know the balls are positioned as close together as possible without touching for the six in the original rack and when replaced on it's spot. I think that is what the rules called for last I knew but I don't know if that is US rules, English rules, or both, and there is a good bit of variance between the two the last time I looked, admittedly years ago.
I have to agree with Bob, give Corey a month to work with the balls and Ronnie do the shooting with them splitting say 100,000 Euros and a 147 from the break might happen. Joe Tucker is another I might have do the ball set-up.
There is usually a sweet bonus pool for a 147. Not uncommon for there not to be any at an event. One 147 gets the full pool, more than one splits the pool. No idea what is the highest number of 147's at an event. I remember two, I think three, so I suspect the number might be between four and six but that is just a guess.
While you don't get the 147 bonus, I think the real question is if a hard break will let you score over half the points available. If you do the other player will usually cede the game. I think the answer is much the same though. You have a fairly remote chance of a break and win but you will probably turn over a table that your opponent has a far better chance of winning on in one inning.
Modern snooker has evolved to be much more like pool. It used to be that the tips were usually ratty mushroomed pieces of leather. Now a few deliberately mushroomed tips but misshapen ones are much less common. They are using nicely shaped tips now. They also may use screw on tips, apparently top quality screw on tips where you may see a tip swapped in midmatch.
Many more shots are played with major spin than years ago. All of the circus shots are much more likely to be seen attempted. I would have thought pool would have grown more like snooker but instead it is the other way around, snooker looks more like pool today. Excellent play and production values, I am more inclined to watch snooker video than pool video.
The skills shown by the snooker players seem second to none. However, Ronnie did try American pool in the IPT without success. He played well, but not at the level he needed to. In the past he has spoken lightly about pool, he has also claimed it would take him five years to catch up with the top pool players. Ronnie likes to have fun so it is anybody's guess what he really believed. I think that with the right money to chase in his prime he could have been a monster in two years or so on a pool table. I think when it comes to pocket cue sports he has some claim to being the GOAT. I believe snooker made him a multi-millionaire. Once the IPT died pool didn't have much appeal.
Hu
I have to agree with Bob, give Corey a month to work with the balls and Ronnie do the shooting with them splitting say 100,000 Euros and a 147 from the break might happen. Joe Tucker is another I might have do the ball set-up.
There is usually a sweet bonus pool for a 147. Not uncommon for there not to be any at an event. One 147 gets the full pool, more than one splits the pool. No idea what is the highest number of 147's at an event. I remember two, I think three, so I suspect the number might be between four and six but that is just a guess.
While you don't get the 147 bonus, I think the real question is if a hard break will let you score over half the points available. If you do the other player will usually cede the game. I think the answer is much the same though. You have a fairly remote chance of a break and win but you will probably turn over a table that your opponent has a far better chance of winning on in one inning.
Modern snooker has evolved to be much more like pool. It used to be that the tips were usually ratty mushroomed pieces of leather. Now a few deliberately mushroomed tips but misshapen ones are much less common. They are using nicely shaped tips now. They also may use screw on tips, apparently top quality screw on tips where you may see a tip swapped in midmatch.
Many more shots are played with major spin than years ago. All of the circus shots are much more likely to be seen attempted. I would have thought pool would have grown more like snooker but instead it is the other way around, snooker looks more like pool today. Excellent play and production values, I am more inclined to watch snooker video than pool video.
The skills shown by the snooker players seem second to none. However, Ronnie did try American pool in the IPT without success. He played well, but not at the level he needed to. In the past he has spoken lightly about pool, he has also claimed it would take him five years to catch up with the top pool players. Ronnie likes to have fun so it is anybody's guess what he really believed. I think that with the right money to chase in his prime he could have been a monster in two years or so on a pool table. I think when it comes to pocket cue sports he has some claim to being the GOAT. I believe snooker made him a multi-millionaire. Once the IPT died pool didn't have much appeal.
Hu
They play "doubles" fairly often, and yes it may be a 2 way shot or pointless as the game is in hand.
Did you see the Rocket make the cocked hat double to win a game with a respotted black?
I honestly thing this will be easy the more I think about it for a top pro. It might be done in a day or two even with only one top pro attempting. What's the big deal about going up and down table on a few shots? 9 ball players do it every single shot some racks. It certainly won't be every shot in this snooker scenario. We've all watched Efren play one pocket and get out from nowhere, countless times. It would be something like that. It might even be easier, since there would be less going into the stack. Like running a rack of 14.1 with a modern Thorston hard and sharp angle break, vs an old school chipping style break followed by many secondary break shots. I'd bet on it happening quickly, for sure.
Snooker players have developed what I call a brrrt reflex to tough shots. Stupid pockets again...
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