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veilside81

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Alway same situation... Hill hill your playing the match of your life bla bla bla... How would you run this out in a high percentage mode ?? :)

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veilside81 said:
Alway same situation... Hill hill your playing the match of your life bla bla bla... How would you run this out in a high percentage mode ?? :)

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I think I would cut the seven in the corner with with a top center cueball and go straight up and then down the center of the table back to the pink spot(head ball on rack). Then cut the 8 down(not past the side) and go 2 lumps back out for the 9. IMO
 
I think you should definitely go for the runout. Cut the 7 in with a half a tip of top left. The key here is to overcut the 7 if you miss (the pro side) and leave your opponent a tough shot as well. If you make the 7, you should have a shot on the 8 to win the match. JMO.

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Nice out, I think that if I got beat by a guy who went two lumps out to get position, I'd commit suicide.
 
Because I don't remember exactly the position of the nine I'll post even this one.. where the 8 doesn't go in the upper corner

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LOL, Same path for me, with the lumps. I really like southpaw's out tho. It seems the more professional way of going about it. I'm used to playing on loose pockets where i really like my path but on a Diamond, southpaws got the right shot although it wont work on the second layout you posted. Wonder, what the plan is here? JMO

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leaguedude said:
I think I would cut the seven in the corner with with a top center cueball and go straight up and then down the center of the table back to the pink spot(head ball on rack). Then cut the 8 down(not past the side) and go 2 lumps back out for the 9. IMO
Straight top wouldn't go up and down the center of the table. Top left is just asking for a hook. Either play the safe behind the 9 and 8 against the side long rail, or cut the 7 with a smidge of inside to counter the left spin from contacting the 7 and go up and down the centre of the table for a thin cut shot on the 8-ball. I say defense. This would be a tough runout for most pro players.
 
Call me silly but even if Mika Immonen is shooting here, I expect to get back to the table. The 7-ball is a real tester.

Okay, if I'm shooting, I'm in shooting-gallery mode. My cueball is on the rail so spin is out of the question. I'm cutting the 7-ball in and going up and down table, hoping to land with a manageable shot on the 8-ball. I'll shoot the eight-ball in and cross the width of the table twice and try to fall straight on the 9-ball.
 
I guess i should have said top centerish. You only need a very small amount or right spin to go straight up and down to the pink spot. JMO
 
I spent a few minutes drawing up my response, but accidently clicked the table and it sent me to a partner website. This "accident" has happened to me MANY times...its VERY easy to accidently click a link when the damn thing is plastered right across the middle of the table! Once it leaves the cuetable website, your drawing is GONE! ARGH!
 
You might be able to win the game from there... but I like this safety option better...

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By doing this, I have turned the table back to my opponent, but I am still in control of the table. Here's what he has...

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For those that say they would go for this, my hat is off to you. I wouldn't. There is too much to lose - and there is a very simple safety option. This is a high pressure situation for all the marbles. You can either play it smart, or you can choose to go down in a blaze of glory. I'd choose to play it smart. If you miss the 7, you will leave a shot no matter what side of the pocket you miss it on.

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Looking at these position options, I still like the safety option the best because it is a high percentage shot that will get me back to the table.

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speaking for myself only, whats left on this table are very hard shots for "me" sure they are hard shots period but these particular ones are real trouble for me. So I would roll the 8up on the 9 and hope that I get another shot, because I have no shot at getting out from here period. we ll have troublesome shots and these just happen to be mine.
 
That's a nice safe blackjack and maybe I would be tempted to shoot it but on this shots I could have problems either with the speed because if it's not perfect I'll leave not a tough shot to my opponent.. Another thing is that if I don't hit the 7 correctly I could also scratch in the corner pocket.. Just my thoughts based on my playing abilities.. :rolleyes: :o
 
My first thought:

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I play on bar tables which may explain why mine's the opposite of Blackjack's.

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Well I just went down to my bar table and tried the up and down to the pink spot with a half tip of right spin on the seven. I got out 5 of ten tries without warming up. I'm sure it would be less on a tight nine footer.

Also, I tried some of the safety's listed here and left a shot half the time also. Big decision on this layout, guess it depends on how your feeling at that moment. Keep em coming, great education here......
 
steev said:
My first thought:

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I play on bar tables which may explain why mine's the opposite of Blackjack's.

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This is not possible. In order to get that angle off the 7ball AND kill the speed of the cueball, you'll need to hit the cueball low and you don't have that option. I mean, this shot is not easy even if you can cue however you like but with the cueball on the rail, your shot doesn't exist.
 
Blackjack said:
You might be able to win the game from there... but I like this safety option better...

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This safety option doesn't work, either. There is a trade - Either you hit the necessary contact point in order to get the 7ball behind the 9 and have your cueball race around the table OR you hit the 7ball too thin to get it to the safe zone and your desired cueball path is secure. Either way, you're selling out.
 
In my humble opinion, this is a clear case of the safety being the same or less probable than shooting the seven for some sort of position on the eight. When facing such probablility, take the shot and the chance to win.

_Rick
 
i dont see hitting the 7 on either side and using the 8,9 as blockers period, to many moving parts for me(conteolling the speed of both balls and landing perfect is beyond my skill level., now perhaps efren or a geat 1P champion might be able to do it but I know my limitations and I wouldnt shoot a shot I have almost no wchance of pulling off even if its a shot, so thats why i would tie up the 8,9 and give up bih and hope for the best, for me this layout is a loser either way, cna i push out? otherwise i'm a loser here.
 
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