OK, I don't know if it is just me...

I definately don't want to loose him as a friend. I talked to him about it earlier today and I called him just now to see if he was alright and told him I over reacted and we are fine and I apologize for cursing at him.

Anyhow, are blue or green masters chalk beter than their tan ones? I might have to go with blue chalk anyway, cause the store I go get the tan chalk from no longer sells it and I don't think I should've made a big deal and be so anal about the chalk's color.

This 10 footer is a Brunswick Paragon at my local Pool Hall, some call it the pool room and many people know it as Raytown Recreation around here. Here is their website: www.myspace.com/raytownrecreation
I really like the place, a bit old school and traditional.

It is a really fun table to shoot on. Super sensative bumpers, fast felt, tight pockets. I mean the thing is massive and it is very well built, I love it. A lot of times the old timers and more experienced players get to play on the table, and when that happens I just get on one of the Gold Crowns. The reason I shoot on the 10 footer is because the owner is teaching me how to shoot and he told me, if I can shoot on a 10 footer, I can go shoot on anything. So I get to practice on the table quite a bit.


grindz said:
the room owner where you played on that 10 footer .... probably wants to GO OFF on you for all those tan chalk marks you're leaving.

Get some sleep ....and next time try and HAVE FUN. It is a GAME isn't it? If he is your freind, you owe him a beer. JMO

td

I never thought of that, I'll ask him to see whether or not he cares, if he does, I guess I better learn to not be anal about the chalk color and use blue chalk. I already told my friend I was going to take him out to dinner and get him a bottle of MaCallans 15 as an apology.
 
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It's just you.

Couple things, since you're a beginner too, your friend might feel you lack credibility when you are giving advice. If you're worried about chalk on your cue, you're going to never get it totally clean. Nothing wrong with a little blue on the cue.
Regardless of the value of your equipment, it's yours and you have a right to treat it as you see fit. If your friend didn't respect your property, perhaps a conversation is in order before you go off. He probably didn't think he was doing anything wrong using the blue chalk. If you're going to have idiosycracies it's best to let people know so you aren't inadvertently upset by someone who doesn't know any better.


:cool:
 
Ah, Big Bertha at Raytown Rec. Played on it many a time.

If you're learning from Don or Doug, you got a good teacher. Play some one pocket on that table. Or better yet, have Don or Doug teach you some three cushion on the Verhoven.
 
He's sharking you!

I don't think you over reacted at all. This is one of the oldest shark moves. Hence the old pool room saying:

"Blue over tan, I be fixin' to kill that man!"

Next time walk over and punch him in the face. He'll know what it was for.:eek:
 
DelaWho??? said:
It's just you.

Couple things, since you're a beginner too, your friend might feel you lack credibility when you are giving advice. If you're worried about chalk on your cue, you're going to never get it totally clean. Nothing wrong with a little blue on the cue.
Regardless of the value of your equipment, it's yours and you have a right to treat it as you see fit. If your friend didn't respect your property, perhaps a conversation is in order before you go off. He probably didn't think he was doing anything wrong using the blue chalk. If you're going to have idiosycracies it's best to let people know so you aren't inadvertently upset by someone who doesn't know any better.


:cool:

I agree, I over reacted, I have a bad temper and I'm really anal sometimes. As I have said, it's just a rant, I shouldn't have reacted the way I did and learn how to control my temper.

sjb said:
Ah, Big Bertha at Raytown Rec. Played on it many a time.

If you're learning from Don or Doug, you got a good teacher. Play some one pocket on that table. Or better yet, have Don or Doug teach you some three cushion on the Verhoven.

Doug is the one who is teaching me, he is awesome. I don't know how to play one-pocket or three cushion. All I know is 8-ball and 9-ball. I am a bit shy and amnafraid to ask Doug too many questions because I don't want to be bugging him. So a lot of time I just try to learn on my own, watch other people play and read billiard books.
 
9 on the snap said:
I don't think you over reacted at all. This is one of the oldest shark moves. Hence the old pool room saying:

"Blue over tan, I be fixin' to kill that man!"

Next time walk over and punch him in the face. He'll know what it was for.:eek:


I am pretty new at pool, so I have no idea what that saying means. Do you mind telling me what that means?
 
chin0 said:
Last night, my friend and I went to the pool hall to go play a few games. He recently purchased his own cue, but by no means is he a serious shooter. He's the type of guy who shoots pool and get his own cue just to tell people he shoots pool. He wouldn't have got his own cue if the pool hall that I go to has decent cues (Old beat up Lucasi 1-piece bar cues). He doesn't have a proper bridge, he lays his hand flat on the table and just put the cue on the gap of his thumb and palm. He doesn't get down to shoot, he stands up completely straight to shoot. He freaken do stupid movie crap and tries to shoot with the cue behind his back. :confused:

Anyhow, we were playing 8 ball on a 10 footer, and I won the last two games. He sat down after he racked the balls and I set my shooting cue down for the break. I have never used any other chalk but Masters Tan chalk on my shooting cue to it cleaner and it is much easier to clean up.

After the break and not making anything, he picks up my cue and started chalking it with blue Masters chalk. I instantly snatched my cue from him and started going the hell off asking him WTF his problem was and told him to pay attention and open his fu(king eyes. :mad:

He apologized or what not but I definately don't want to ever shoot with him again. He doesn't respect the game, and does whatever he wants. I feel that shooting with a person like this is not going to benefit me at all. I don't know if I am over reacting, but I am pretty mad about it. Sorry for the long rant, I know I am a newbie and I have not earned the respect to be going off like that. Though I don't have any nice or expensive equipment, but I take care and respect them. By him doing what he did was very disrespectful to me.

just ask him to gamble...
 
chin0 said:
I am pretty new at pool, so I have no idea what that saying means. Do you mind telling me what that means?


A "shark move" is to employ gamesmanship, to engage in some behavior generally considered ungentlemanly or unethical, in order to throw off your opponent from performing his best. Leaning against the table or standing right at the table's edge, especially right in his shooting line, when it is his turn at the table would be an obvious example. In golf the obvious example is coughing or talking just as your opponent starts his downswing.
 
chin0 said:
I already told my friend I was going to take him out to dinner and get him a bottle of MaCallans 15 as an apology.

Wow! I like the way you apologise! :smile:

Regarding your temper, that's something you might want to learn to control. Pool can throw up a lot of situations that'll make you lose your cool. I've always had a short fuse but getting older seems to have calmed me down a little. That and I love my cue too much to throw it across the room (done that before.):embarrassed2:
 
DogsPlayingPool said:
A "shark move" is to employ gamesmanship, to engage in some behavior generally considered ungentlemanly or unethical, in order to throw off your opponent from performing his best. Leaning against the table or standing right at the table's edge, especially right in his shooting line, when it is his turn at the table would be an obvious example. In golf the obvious example is coughing or talking just as your opponent starts his downswing.


He does all of those stuff, sometimes even humping the pocket that I'm shooting in. I guess he just doesn't know they are shark moves, but his intention was to make me miss, but I guess it is all in good fun and I need to lighten up.

chilli66 said:
Wow! I like the way you apologise! :)

Regarding your temper, that's something you might want to learn to control. Pool can throw up a lot of situations that'll make you lose your cool. I've always had a short fuse but getting older seems to have calmed me down a little. That and I love my cue too much to throw it across the room (done that before.) :embarrassed2:

:embarrassed2: I try to make up for it because it was my fault.

As for my temper, I don't think I've been so mad to throw my cue across the room. I've accidentally drop my cue after missing a shot, which people throught I threw it.
 
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chin0 said:
Last night, my friend and I went to the pool hall to go play a few games. He recently purchased his own cue, but by no means is he a serious shooter. He's the type of guy who shoots pool and get his own cue just to tell people he shoots pool. He wouldn't have got his own cue if the pool hall that I go to has decent cues (Old beat up Lucasi 1-piece bar cues). He doesn't have a proper bridge, he lays his hand flat on the table and just put the cue on the gap of his thumb and palm. He doesn't get down to shoot, he stands up completely straight to shoot. He freaken do stupid movie crap and tries to shoot with the cue behind his back. :confused:

Anyhow, we were playing 8 ball on a 10 footer, and I won the last two games. He sat down after he racked the balls and I set my shooting cue down for the break. I have never used any other chalk but Masters Tan chalk on my shooting cue to it cleaner and it is much easier to clean up.

After the break and not making anything, he picks up my cue and started chalking it with blue Masters chalk. I instantly snatched my cue from him and started going the hell off asking him WTF his problem was and told him to pay attention and open his fu(king eyes. :mad:

He apologized or what not but I definately don't want to ever shoot with him again. He doesn't respect the game, and does whatever he wants. I feel that shooting with a person like this is not going to benefit me at all. I don't know if I am over reacting, but I am pretty mad about it. Sorry for the long rant, I know I am a newbie and I have not earned the respect to be going off like that. Though I don't have any nice or expensive equipment, but I take care and respect them. By him doing what he did was very disrespectful to me.


I tend to go off on people who use the wrong color chalk for the cloth they are playing on. Tan might be what you like but it makes light colored marks on the blue or green cloth and is annoying. Not to mention the fact that you can't keep your tan chalk off the table where the serious shooters can't help but accidentally pick it up and chalk their cue with that crap. If you have to use it then at least invest in a pocket chalk holder and keep that crap in your pocket and away from me.

I swear someday I am going to go to the pool room with every color of chalk made and line them all up on the rail and on every shot I am going to make a deliberate show of choosing a different color because certain colors are better for certain shots........

Two things I cannot stand are people who use the wrong color chalk and act like it's the holy grail of chalk and people who put the chalk open side down on the rail.
 
I think it's a little much, and you called him a friend at the beginning of your post, doesn't sound like you think of him that way though. Look, is it even possible that he grabbed your cue by mistake? Did you tell him beforehand that you only use that tan chalk? I think you're making too much out of it. It's not like he fu/cked your sister or anything.
MULLY
and get rid of that ugly chalk
 
I think you over reacted a little...It is not like he put the chalk face down....I am just kidding but you should have shared with him what he did wrong... we were all there at one time... take the time to teach him...
 
chin0 said:
Last night, my friend and I went to the pool hall to go play a few games. He recently purchased his own cue, but by no means is he a serious shooter. He's the type of guy who shoots pool and get his own cue just to tell people he shoots pool. He wouldn't have got his own cue if the pool hall that I go to has decent cues (Old beat up Lucasi 1-piece bar cues). He doesn't have a proper bridge, he lays his hand flat on the table and just put the cue on the gap of his thumb and palm. He doesn't get down to shoot, he stands up completely straight to shoot. He freaken do stupid movie crap and tries to shoot with the cue behind his back. :confused:

Anyhow, we were playing 8 ball on a 10 footer, and I won the last two games. He sat down after he racked the balls and I set my shooting cue down for the break. I have never used any other chalk but Masters Tan chalk on my shooting cue to it cleaner and it is much easier to clean up.

After the break and not making anything, he picks up my cue and started chalking it with blue Masters chalk. I instantly snatched my cue from him and started going the hell off asking him WTF his problem was and told him to pay attention and open his fu(king eyes. :mad:

He apologized or what not but I definately don't want to ever shoot with him again. He doesn't respect the game, and does whatever he wants. I feel that shooting with a person like this is not going to benefit me at all. I don't know if I am over reacting, but I am pretty mad about it. Sorry for the long rant, I know I am a newbie and I have not earned the respect to be going off like that. Though I don't have any nice or expensive equipment, but I take care and respect them. By him doing what he did was very disrespectful to me.

You have a lot to learn, young padowan.
 
sjb said:
Lighten up a little. You can let him know not to touch your stuff without permission without losing him as a friend.

BTW, where is this "10 footer" you speak of? Not many of those around any more.


ChinO,

sounds like your friend is sorta new to pool and probally "LQQKS Up to you!",and since he's your friend let him shoot a few shots with your cue and maybe he'll like it enough to get one of his own!.......

so lighten up and don't jump all over him so quickly, comely tell him the "do's and don't's" about pool...

and do go to either the green or blue masters chalk, the green is alittle softer!, and they won't show up on the cloth like the tan.:smile:


David Harcrow
 
JB Cases said:
I tend to go off on people who use the wrong color chalk for the cloth they are playing on. Tan might be what you like but it makes light colored marks on the blue or green cloth and is annoying. Not to mention the fact that you can't keep your tan chalk off the table where the serious shooters can't help but accidentally pick it up and chalk their cue with that crap. If you have to use it then at least invest in a pocket chalk holder and keep that crap in your pocket and away from me.

I swear someday I am going to go to the pool room with every color of chalk made and line them all up on the rail and on every shot I am going to make a deliberate show of choosing a different color because certain colors are better for certain shots........

Two things I cannot stand are people who use the wrong color chalk and act like it's the holy grail of chalk and people who put the chalk open side down on the rail.

I also never thought of it that way, but I do try to keep as much of the tan chalk off of the table as possible. From what I see everyone is saying, I beeter quit being OCD and just start using green or blue chalk. Guess I'm the one that has been wrong :embarrassed2:


mullyman said:
I think it's a little much, and you called him a friend at the beginning of your post, doesn't sound like you think of him that way though. Look, is it even possible that he grabbed your cue by mistake? Did you tell him beforehand that you only use that tan chalk? I think you're making too much out of it. It's not like he fu/cked your sister or anything.
MULLY
and get rid of that ugly chalk

I do consider him a friend, I don't know if you guys read some of my responses. I apologized to him already for over reacting and cursing at him. I am taking him out this weekend for dinner and get him a fifth of Macallan 15 as an apology.

I figure he probably picked it up on accident and I never said anything to him about the tan chalk. But picking up someone else's cue and trying to shoot with it is kind of a no no right? I'm going to get rid of that Tan chalk and start using blue chalk, I just always been a bit a clean freak, so I thought the blue chalk on the shaft is a sign of clumsiness, but I thought wrong.



MJR77 said:
I think you over reacted a little...It is not like he put the chalk face down....I am just kidding but you should have shared with him what he did wrong... we were all there at one time... take the time to teach him...

I will try to help him and tell him, but like I said earlier, he snaps at me whenever I try to tell him something and with someone snapping at you all the time, that crap gets a little old. But I try to ignore it.



deadgearplyr said:
You have a lot to learn, young padowan.

:embarrassed2: Yes, I do.




catpool9 said:
ChinO,

sounds like your friend is sorta new to pool and probally "LQQKS Up to you!",and since he's your friend let him shoot a few shots with your cue and maybe he'll like it enough to get one of his own!.......

so lighten up and don't jump all over him so quickly, comely tell him the "do's and don't's" about pool...

and do go to either the green or blue masters chalk, the green is alittle softer!, and they won't show up on the cloth like the tan.:smile:


David Harcrow


I will get rid of the tan chalk, guess I was the wrong one using that tan chalk rather than my friend being wrong for chalking my cue with blue chalk :embarrassed2:
 
Well it's like you said about him not really being into playing which makes it obvious that he doesn't know and hasn't picked up all the little pet peeves shooters do. If ya didn't want him putting the wrong color chalk on your stick ya shouldn't of let him (not sure if you did let him) shoot with your stick.
 
No, I don't let anyone shoot with my cue. he has his own cue, like some said, he might have just picked it up on accident. I'm over it now. I apologized to him already. I'm going to try and help him learn the etiquette and lil pet peeves that shooters have as I progress and learn them myself. (I didn't know it was a no no to shoot with chalk that shows up on the felt). Since now I know, I wouldn't do it and switch to green/blue chalk, most likely just sticking to the blue chalk and throwing away the tan chalk.
 
Basically use the chalk they have at the hall.

The peeves I can think of are:

-Using baby powder or the cone chalk (if they actually have some at any halls now) and not wiping all the white off your hands

-Putting chalk upside down on the table

-Using someone elses cue without asking or being offered. I would actually say just don't use it unless you are offered as some people are too nice to say no.

-Putting your beer on the table or in a pocket while shooting

-Shooting with a cigarette hanging out of your mouth or sitting it on the rail while you shoot

-Standing at the table while your opponent shoots. This doesn't just irritate me when it's someone at my table, but also when it's someone at a table next to me because they generally end up being in my way.

-Bumping into people at other tables or walking into their line of site.

My rule of thumb on etiquette in a pool hall has been all of those. Basically if I am not shooting I sit in the chair and shut up. If I get a beer or other drink I make sure not to be walking through someone's line of sight.
 
Oh yea I need to add that if someone tells me to shoot with their cue to try it out I treat that cue as if it is person's favorite thing in the world as I feel that way about my cues.

My fiancee' doesn't come on here so I should be ok saying that ;)
 
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