old growth maple heart wood

desi2960

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i have a chance to buy enough old growth maple lumber to cut about 4000 shafts. the pieces are all heartwood from a 1850's furniture factory. at 65 years old i might not need quite that much, anyone out there want to split the cost and wood? chuck
 
I've never seen maple heartwood shafts. 99.99% of the maple used for pool cue shafts are sapwood.

Martin



desi2960 said:
i have a chance to buy enough old growth maple lumber to cut about 4000 shafts. the pieces are all heartwood from a 1850's furniture factory. at 65 years old i might not need quite that much, anyone out there want to split the cost and wood? chuck
 
I've never seen maple heartwood shafts


they are out there.a little dark but nice and dense.every other wood used for cues is heartwood,i never understood why the shafts are the only wood that is sapwood.i guess it looks prettier.
 
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i do not have the wood yet, as soon as i get my hands on it , i will get back to everyone that pm'ed me. thank you chuck
 
jazznpool said:
I've never seen maple heartwood shafts. 99.99% of the maple used for pool cue shafts are sapwood.

Martin
You beat me to it on this one. If it is only heart wood pass it up.
 
Why?

cueman said:
You beat me to it on this one. If it is only heart wood pass it up.

Help a newb understand,what is the problem with maple heart wood shafts? It seems alot of other dense woods are used for shafts like purple heart & ash.

Jim
 
The heart of the maple tree is pretty small compared to other woods that we call heart woods. So you very often get a shaft that has a major color change from dark red to almost white. Another issue is the small circular grain. If you made one shaft exactly in the middle of the heart the grain would go around instead across the shaft. This might be good for that one shaft. But then the grain would really be weird right next to it on either side of dead middle. The only wood that I really like the absolute dead middle of the heart is birdseye maple. Because that is the only piece that will have true eyes on all four sides and if you can deal with the dark color it looks nice. My guess is unless these boards are very small like maybe the size of a 2 x 4, they are not all heart wood. But if it is really old it may be the heart scraps left over. Some people think the heartwood of maple is anything inside that outside bark area, but the heart is the dark center of the maple. I have not played with them so I may be wrong on playability, but on looks I think I am right.
 
i know Kers has made some heart shats and he knows a little something about this stuff.
 
Most dark maple wood is not heartwood, just dark maple. The heartwood of a maple tree degrades badly in a kiln and is usually so inconsistently colored as to be very distracting to the eye. Some of it plays fine, some doesn't.

The white shafts used today are carefully selected sapwood from the outermost portions of the log and are vacuum kiln dried. I have always liked the darker shaft wood better for it's playing characteristics, and I am certain that this is the wood the furniture factory had. They would have rejected any heartwood offhand.
 
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the guy i bought the wood from is a metal dealer, he is scraping the metal in this 1850's sawmill-furniture factory, he was told about the age by the owners of the sawmill. he may be wrong about the sapwood - heartwood part and i will not know until the wood gets here. the wood will be shipped in the next couple days. as soon as i have my hands on it i will take photos , get some weights, growth ring count, etc, etc. and thank everyone for the info on sapwood- heartwood. chuck
 
desi2960 said:
the guy i bought the wood from is a metal dealer, he is scraping the metal in this 1850's sawmill-furniture factory, he was told about the age by the owners of the sawmill. he may be wrong about the sapwood - heartwood part and i will not know until the wood gets here. the wood will be shipped in the next couple days. as soon as i have my hands on it i will take photos , get some weights, growth ring count, etc, etc. and thank everyone for the info on sapwood- heartwood. chuck
Hopefully you just came up on the find of a lifetime. With him not being a wood man I am guessing it is probably not heartwood.
 
masonh said:
i know Kers has made some heart shats and he knows a little something about this stuff.


shats??? lol

i personally like the darker shafts. they play better IMO but ppl dont like to see dark or small changes in color. they want clean white. i dont get it but ok
 
dave sutton said:
shats??? lol

i personally like the darker shafts. they play better IMO but ppl dont like to see dark or small changes in color. they want clean white. i dont get it but ok


what, are you the same guy in one of my moose antler threads that said only the whitest would do???? Just jabbing you dave, by the way, if you want some, I just cut into an antler that is like ivory.

Why not experiment, I want to try some, just like I want to try the Salvaged wood, the bowling alley planks, I even try rubbing viagra on my shaft to get it stiffer:eek:
 
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