One Ball One Pocket

[Fatboy]

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NO they don't, the object ball never starts on the spot.
Always starts frozen to the middle diamond on the foot rail, always.

I seen this in Vegas back in 92, archie the greek, was playing terry $100/game-they played this game for a month, just before archie made the monster score.

They also didnt shoot at their hole on the break

Thats how I remember it, I know the OB wasnt on the spot,

 

[DrOnePocket]

Guys,

It really doesn't matter how you play the game, just so you play. No need to get rude DrOnePocket. Itsfroze is only trying to communicate how he knows the game is played and I along with many others agree with him. But if you want to start the game on the spot and allow offensive shots you are more then free to do so. I can see both sides. For a drill it's okay to start the OB on the spot. But for my money I want to make it more difficult for my opponent. Therefore, in a gambling match I want the OB froze on the end rail. I want my opponent to have to lay down a good shot to get out of the break. Things can go wrong when the ball is froze. You could double kiss or you could even sell out by hitting it too thin. You go to come with it when it's froze. I also agree it's extremely important to practice spot shots. Both of you should lighten up on each other or I will bust both of you all on the 10 footer.:happydance::deadhorse:

He is a railbird, probably a C player nationally that likes to get on here and talk big so he feels good about himself. You know the type.

The game started out where the ball is on the spot as far as I know. I have been around plenty of older folks as all I really play is One Pocket. Some people may have changed the rules over the years to suit their game but it wouldn't even make sense to call the game 1 ball 1 pocket if it started the way you claim. As you can see, someone earlier in this thread called your way something like the dominican rules, or whatever he said. My point is, the original game is played just like I said it was and is.

 

[George Fels]

One-ball One-Pocket

Without getting into any name-calling, here's how we used to start this game on a 5' x 10' table: OB on foot spot, CB in the jaws of the back pocket on your side. If you wanted to try cutting the thing in backwards on the break, that was allowed but pretty dangerous. I've also seen the game played with the OB on the center diamond, and even on the first diamond nearest your pocket, but in neither case was the breaker allowed to try sinking the ball outright for game. Freddy and I used to enjoy this game, decades ago. GF

 

[greyghost]

Without getting into any name-calling, here's how we used to start this game on a 5' x 10' table: OB on foot spot, CB in the jaws of the back pocket on your side. If you wanted to try cutting the thing in backwards on the break, that was allowed but pretty dangerous. I've also seen the game played with the OB on the center diamond, and even on the first diamond nearest your pocket, but in neither case was the breaker allowed to try sinking the ball outright for game. Freddy and I used to enjoy this game, decades ago. GF

Thanks for bringing a little sanity back to this thread :smile: In the midwest and anywhere else i've ever seen the game played or played it myself....spot on center of end/ short rail. No pocketing on break. In T town was a much loved practice game on the 10ft snooker table.

When you think about it theres no real reason to play with it on the spot to begin with. You cant shoot at your hole anyways off the break so whats the spot teaching you? The ball being wide open on the spot opens up alot more options for placement of the OB than it does when starting it on the center of the end rail.....and the game was developed as a training aid or possibly a gaffe that ended up being a training game, but either way same result.

But seriously i think the argueing in this thread is quite stupid........go ask this question over at ONEPOCKET.ORG to Freddy,billy,artie etc over there and yall can pull it out an find out who's not measuring up without all the weak squawking.

knows a lil one-a-hola,
-Grey Ghost-

 

[greyghost]

onepocket.org

 

[greyghost]

onepocket.org

 

[senor]

The reason the cue ball starts on the spot and NOT on the end rail is because that is a situation that comes up frequently in One Pocket. Not shooting at your hole the first shot teaches you strategy that can and will be used in a real game.

If the ball is frozen on the end rail and you have ball in hand behind the line, a good player will 4 rail the ob to his hole and get safe everytime. Making the ball a lot once you learn the table. It's pointless to play it that way

Another problem with playing your way is, why wouldn't I just cut the ball in my hole over and over again?

B/c as you pointed out, the opening break shot cannot be an offensive shot. I've only played it with OB frozen to middle diamond and BIH in kitchen, but I don't think it matters two shits how the game starts...

 

[senor]

This game started as a practice drill to help people learn the end game in one pocket.

I'm of the opinion the NO game starts as a practice drill, but rather a way for two or more degenerates to bet their money :thumbup:

 

[Pushout]

I started a thread about this on onepocket.org some time back. Just wondered if anybody had played it much.

 

[senor]

Played this game with Lil John M a while back giving him odds on money. We played BIH in kitchen with OB froze to middle diamond.

During our long session, we played two games in about 2 minutes, it was a pretty rare occurrence I suppose...On the opening shot I pocketed the OB in the side pocket and left LJ a straight in bank on the spot which he made. You'd never guess it, but LJ broke and the same thing happened! He made ball in side, spotted it up and left me a straight in bank which I made.

 

[ActionDan22]

What do you mean by BIH in the kitchen? I was also wondering does the CB stay where it lies if the object ball flies of the table or do you start all over? Im pretty sure making it in any other pocket was a loss and if you scratched it was BIH behind the line and the OB stayed where it lies. Thanks for all the input

AD

 

[Black-Balled]

What do you mean by BIH in the kitchen? I was also wondering does the CB stay where it lies if the object ball flies of the table or do you start all over? Im pretty sure making it in any other pocket was a loss and if you scratched it was BIH behind the line and the OB stayed where it lies. Thanks for all the input

AD

BIH in the kitchen=BIH behind the line
OB always spots on foot spot, CB stays where it is.
I wouldn't think making OB in pocket other than your is a loss, unless it falls into opponents's pocket.

 

[backplaying]

You do not start with the OB on the spot. You start with the OB frozen to the middle of the short rail (middle spot) at the foot of the table. You are not allowed to play a shot to pocket the OB ball on the first shot of the game, you must play a safe usually knocking the OB near the side pocket
on the side away from your pocket. Trying not to leave a long straight back or a three railer towards his pocket.

I used to play this a lot at Chelsea Billiards in NYC against Teddy The Greek. I don't know where the first 3 or so posters are getting the rules they mentioned but that doesn't sound anything like One Ball One Pocket.

This is the way I have played it.

 

[backplaying]

This is a good game to learn to play the end game. The first time I played it was with a guy I beat even playing regular 1 hole, due mainly because I can run more balls than he can. He beat me 6 games in a row for 50 a game just to let me know I didn't move as good as he did!:wink: