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dmgwalsh said:
Jeff: I usually would not use left on this. I have even been known to use a touch of right to cut down on the angle coming off the second rail.

I agree 110%. On any cut shot you're going to pick up some natural english from the friction between the 2 balls. This particular shot I shoot high center and let it run.
MULLY
 
Here are some shots that I begin to sweat over when they come up, and these particular shots are ones that a straight pool player NEEDS in his arsenal. Those back cuts really drive me up a tree. Especially the 2 diagramed under the rack.
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Thanks for the high right suggestions for the spot shot. I think it depends on the speed you use, which is why I have issues with the shot. Here are two pages showing that the harder you hit it the more you need to go from left english to right english. This really complicates things. Maybe hitting hard with right english is the solution that I didn't realize made the shot easier. I'll have to try the right english version when I get to a table. I don't see how you can get the cueball to avoid hitting the side of the rack with high right though. And can you scratch if you hit the ball too hard? But again, I'll try it. Thanks.

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3andstop said:
Yes Dale, you are certainly correct. :) However, I'm currently interested in seeing what interests the folks in terms of the shots that come to their individual minds for a specific reason.

The product of this very scientific research :idea2: ( if it ends up being doable) will be a totally unique way training and learning / being comfortable, with making shots.

Do you have anything specific in mind yet?

OK, obviously you must - you can PM me if you don't want to go public yet.

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bluepepper said:
Thanks for the high right suggestions for the spot shot. I think it depends on the speed you use, which is why I have issues with the shot. Here are two pages showing that the harder you hit it the more you need to go from left english to right english. This really complicates things. Maybe hitting hard with right english is the solution that I didn't realize made the shot easier. I'll have to try the right english version when I get to a table. I don't see how you can get the cueball to avoid hitting the side of the rack with high right though. And can you scratch if you hit the ball too hard? But again, I'll try it. Thanks.

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Well, Jeff, I know I'm going to catch a ton of crap for this next comment but it's a fact that the more inside you use the more difficult the shot will be. Especially with something like this. Closer to the pocket, yeah, you can mustard it up and let it go but shots with any distance get tougher with inside. I wouldn't suggest hitting this with inside unless you absolutely have to and even then as little as you can get away with. I'd also suggest not putting a lot of ass into this shot. A good medium, smooth stroke will break the pack up sufficiently.


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The problem with hitting this shot with high outside is that you won't get the desired angle off of the first cushion to give you the desired angle off of the second cushion. In my experience with this shot, and this is one that I really like, when using high outside you actually end up missing above the rack and have a huge chance of going straight into that bottom corner pocket.

I saw Jim Rempe do this shot on his instructional video a few years back and I loved it and practiced it religiously.

Of course your cue ball position is going to dictate what to use but with the diagram, I like that with just high ball and a smooth medium stroke.
MULLY
 
Jeff, this is what I see on page 3 of your diagram. I used your diagram and used the A cueball to show my path. The CB's original position should be where yours is, I just set it in front of it so as not to cover yours up. I know you get a little length off of that second rail but you also get some length off of the first rail which will alter that path more towards the other side of the pack.
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bluepepper said:
Thanks Mully. I'll definitely practice this one a few times when I get to the table.


I'm pretty sure that this shot is on Rempe's "How To Run a Hundred Balls" video.
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mullyman said:
I'm pretty sure that this shot is on Rempe's "How To Run a Hundred Balls" video.
MULLY

Sigel demonstrates it, too on the straight pool section of Perfect Pool.

I usually use a touch of inside, but I'll try it a few times with just high.
 
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By Jhttp://CueTable.com/P/?@3AEmX4PRtL@ove, I think I have it, cuetable that is!!!!!

Now what? It worked in the test area.

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Cancel previous. I have decided to not shoot myself. I think I have it. Here is my first contribution. I used to think there was something wrong with me(there is)that this type of angle bothered me so. Then I found out that I am not alone.

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Yes, I find that angle deceptively steep.
The reason your cuetables weren't showing up is that both the left and the right "wei" tags have to be fully bracketed. You're missing a bracket on the left in one post, and a bracket on the right in another.
 
Bluepepper

Thanks. I'm a slow learner. Sorry to have cluttered up the thread like this. I was working in the test area and thought I had it, then it got away. I think I have it now.


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Dave, I think you are doing great! Just a little more practise, and you are there!!! The Cuetable is a perfect tool to use to explain shots, situations, drills etc. Looking forward to seing you use it in the future!!

Here's a shot that I don't like at all. For some reason I normally hit the objectball to thick on these shots, but only when playing 14-1... But, since I am aware of it, I am working on it...

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Roy Steffensen said:
Here's a shot that I don't like at all. For some reason I normally hit the objectball to thick on these shots, but only when playing 14-1... But, since I am aware of it, I am working on it
ooh, thanks for bringing back my nightmares... First I couldn't remember which shot at 14.1 scares me most, but now I do - that's the same. I tend to hit it thick, driving the cb into the rail.

And, the behind the rack break shot when the cb is above (?) the line parallel to the short rail (thus requiring to shoot it high with inside english for three rails route) just makes me miss the shot almost every time because of extreme english.

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