One Pocket Etiquette - Potting ball off break

Bob, you do need to make a legal shot on the break. You must hit a ball and then contact a rail or it's a foul and you owe one.


er, Jay, before Bob hits you with his slide rule, I'll just point out that I think he said that in his last sentence.

Lou Figueroa
 
I think during the frost/dennis match, they had reracked?

Then someone mentioned they rerack at DCC too.

Can someone verify?
 
Bob & Lou, thanks, this helps in getting the ball rolling here.
In the apparent tradition of 1P, this game throws a monkey wench into my table build.
I'm at the stage of the ball returns, having 2 returns, 1 return from the head and 1 side,
and, then the balance to the other side, 4Ball loads from the side, so, this 1P, has me
rethinking how, which pockets, I'm going to have return to what side, thanks, thanks a
lot. dang, another rework is highly likely now. :(
 
I think during the frost/dennis match, they had reracked?

Then someone mentioned they rerack at DCC too.

Can someone verify?


Maybe in the Action Room but in the tournament I don't believe that rule has been deployed.

Lou Figueroa
 
Bob & Lou, thanks, this helps in getting the ball rolling here.
In the apparent tradition of 1P, this game throws a monkey wench into my table build.
I'm at the stage of the ball returns, having 2 returns, 1 return from the head and 1 side,
and, then the balance to the other side, 4Ball loads from the side, so, this 1P, has me
rethinking how, which pockets, I'm going to have return to what side, thanks, thanks a
lot. dang, another rework is highly likely now. :(


hmmmm, don't know what to tell you, Dan. Players not only get anxious to retrieve balls they've legally scored but also there's all the spotting of balls made in the other four pockets. Good luck with the build.

Lou Figueroa
 
hmmmm, don't know what to tell you, Dan. Players not only get anxious to retrieve balls they've legally scored but also there's all the spotting of balls made in the other four pockets. Good luck with the build.

Lou Figueroa
I think a non-return table (drop pockets) is better for 1P. No question about where the ball went in. How come no one has a convertible that can be either?
 
I think a non-return table (drop pockets) is better for 1P. No question about where the ball went in. How come no one has a convertible that can be either?

I've never thought about that ....but I agree.
...drop pockets are great for one-pocket.

I have seen a ball made in a non-player's pocket and got slept by both sides....
...it was a ball-return table....they ended up arguing later on about who owned.
They finally asked me and it was resolved peacefully.
 
... I have seen a ball made in a non-player's pocket and got slept by both sides....
...it was a ball-return table....they ended up arguing later on about who owned.
They finally asked me and it was resolved peacefully.
You didn't do the King Solomon move on them?
 
Who racked it? Him or you?

In "rack your own", you have the option to rebreak or spot the ball and pass the turn.

If he racked, congratulations, run them on out!

I'm fairly new to one pocket been playing about 9 months n I've yet to hear this rule. I thought it was decide before if it's re rack or not but I've yet to hear spot ball n lose ur turn is this common?
 
I think during the frost/dennis match, they had reracked?


Can someone verify?

Pretty sure I happened to see Frost rerack after making a ball on the Scott/Dennis stream. I am not a One Pocket player, so it made me wonder about the rule.
 
I am a complete beginner at one pocket and trying to learn the ropes. Anyway today after playing 2 pretty poor sets of 8ball my friend and I decided to play some runs to 3 in one pocket.

During one of my breaks I decided to hit the 3rd ball from the top of the rack to open them up a bit. Anyway luckily I potted a ball in my pocket. From this position I had to split the pack and play some difficult positional shots to run out the rack

After running out I was really chuffed for breaking and running out. However my friend was less infused and said I was lucky getting the ball off of the break and that unlike 9ball or 8ball etc the object is not to pot a ball off of the break. Thus, there was some Etiquette involved in the game whereas I should have been more reserved and apologetic for my luck.

Thoughts please?
My thought is simple. The way you express yourself from the keyboard is neat, it makes me realize your life and my life are Socially so different. What's right for your Social situation in Australia may not be right in Colorado.
 
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If back-corner ball is not frozen it goes a LOT. If you're playing rack-ur-own its VERY easy to make a ball. Not saying this is good sportsmanship but it can happen. Balls need to be tight. Sometimes on new,slick Simonis a ball will go just because the whole rack can slide, bringing pocket into play more.

I believe a tight rack on new cloth offers the best chance from what little I know , I heard that Tom Tom made serveral on the break and ran out when he won the Capitol
City classic in MD yrs back I'm going to ask him


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I think a non-return table (drop pockets) is better for 1P. No question about where the ball went in. How come no one has a convertible that can be either?

Yes, makes sense for the drop pocket for this game, especially those extended type,
like in the just play Chinese 8 ball, "table" they used, getting 8 balls in one pocket.
I’m too for a long on my project, committed to a ball return at this point and with, seeing
the guys checking their ball count in the return box a lot in the Scott/Dennis match,
I figure I can at least improve that part by having the opponents’ balls on opposite
sides of the table anyways. Hopefully, there will be enough eyeballs on the game to
catch it or say, in a friendly game "hey, nice try, you need to spot one back up".
Just trying to cover all of the bases the best I can at this point.
 
Pretty sure I happened to see Frost rerack after making a ball on the Scott/Dennis stream. I am not a One Pocket player, so it made me wonder about the rule.
hum, I thought I saw Scott spot a ball from a foot pocketed ball on the break?
 
I think a non-return table (drop pockets) is better for 1P. No question about where the ball went in. How come no one has a convertible that can be either?


No doubt.

My home room for several years was The Break and the money table there could easily hold 8-10 balls a pocket.

Lou Figueroa
 
I believe a tight rack on new cloth offers the best chance from what little I know , I heard that Tom Tom made serveral on the break and ran out when he won the Capitol
City classic in MD yrs back I'm going to ask him


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It's just a thing that sometimes happens.

If you want to end it, just vigorously rub the cloth in the rack area with your hands.

Lou Figueroa
 
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Hence forth on this glorious day of illuminated sky’s and
green felt, a resolve – in my mine - is now present for the ball return dilemma in
regard to the notoriously devilish disciplines of 1P on a narrowly minded table.

To the assembled;

All traditional 1P rules apply with exception(s),

The brave soul of the opening break will place the arrow head shaped rack of 15
object balls in the center of the side pockets on the narrowly minded table in the
direction of the kick break (recommended), which creates the declaration for the
opposing [head(s)] money pocket end zone. Breaker breaks from their kitchen - head,
with the declared money pocket being the opposite side of their opening break, which with
consequences for the opposition, the money pocket being opposite in their end zone.

Shooter drawing a demand to spot, places the ball on the center line of the break
spot, [in] their oppositions side of the table.

A shooter entering the narrowly minded table with ball in hand displaces their
argument from their kitchen head with tradition rules applying.

…walla

Note: the arrow shaped rack presents the best open field for the break angle on the
narrowly mined table width of 42”, table length is 102”, playing surface.

No, certified papers from Dr. Thinking are not available.
 
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