Louis Ulrich
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TheOne said:
You'd be surprised how often you are stiched up after the break. The game is a lot more difficult than it sounds.
one pocket ghost
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You'd be surprised how often you are stiched up after the break. The game is a lot more difficult than it sounds.
No ball in hand after the break when trying to reach a certain ball count in 5 racks. You can make any set of rules you want on these games. But one would have to be crazy to give a pro level player BIH at ANY time.
efren in bellflower
the way we play is you definitely don't get ball in hand. you break from behind the headstring and call your pocket before you break. normally it's stipulated you will have to switch pockets, and if you're playing aggi in LA, if you shoot at the same pocket twice he lets you do it, gets up when you fire that first ball into the "other" pocket, and says "your pockets over here," thus your inning has ended.
anyway, a great game. if you wanna hear stories about efren, he was purposefully scratching on the break when i watched him ~8 years ago. he lost a ball but he would never get snookered after the break. youll find out soon when you play this game that the zero innings really kill you, that was efrens insurance against it.
efren had more offense back then imo, and was shooting at 45 on 4.5 inch pockets. absolutely amazing. he wasn't beating it, but he was trying.... he was down the whole night though.
ive posted this before, but some of the most impressive shots i saw out of him were to shoot a ball down the long rail of the pocket he had, he hit that long rail with the cueball, went into the stack in such a way as to hit the end rail, then side rail, then come out for the balls hed just broken open. wish i could diagram it for you.
i could talk all night about this, id better stop.
edit: just to give you an idea of how awesome 45 in 5 racks is (which was efren's number)... Jeff Beckley shot at 15 in 3 racks on big pockets and just got absolutely robbed, had no chance whatsoever.
the way we play is you definitely don't get ball in hand. you break from behind the headstring and call your pocket before you break. normally it's stipulated you will have to switch pockets, and if you're playing aggi in LA, if you shoot at the same pocket twice he lets you do it, gets up when you fire that first ball into the "other" pocket, and says "your pockets over here," thus your inning has ended.
anyway, a great game. if you wanna hear stories about efren, he was purposefully scratching on the break when i watched him ~8 years ago. he lost a ball but he would never get snookered after the break. youll find out soon when you play this game that the zero innings really kill you, that was efrens insurance against it.
efren had more offense back then imo, and was shooting at 45 on 4.5 inch pockets. absolutely amazing. he wasn't beating it, but he was trying.... he was down the whole night though.
ive posted this before, but some of the most impressive shots i saw out of him were to shoot a ball down the long rail of the pocket he had, he hit that long rail with the cueball, went into the stack in such a way as to hit the end rail, then side rail, then come out for the balls hed just broken open. wish i could diagram it for you.
i could talk all night about this, id better stop.
edit: just to give you an idea of how awesome 45 in 5 racks is (which was efren's number)... Jeff Beckley shot at 15 in 3 racks on big pockets and just got absolutely robbed, had no chance whatsoever.
You should probably spot them.Mike B. said:
Balls made in wrong pockets on the break spot immediately. Balls made in wrong pockets during the run all spot if/when the table is cleared.Mike B. said:
ironman said:
There are many differnet breaks, and one of the most important aspects is, imo, you don't necessarily break them the same all the time. ie, if you need 12 in your last rack vs if you need 2 the breaks may be different. if you only need one or 2 you should hit them very soft and just play for that corner ball, and make sure you dont hook yourself.
as an intersting side note, jeff beckley was shooting at 15 in 3 racks, he got skunked his first 2 racks right. so he breaks em open a little stronger in the last rack (he needs all 15 mind you). he starts making banks and doing all sorts of magical shit. he gets good on the 15th ball and pool reared its ugly head and he shot that 15th ball into the rail. a brutal miss if i ever saw one.
incidentally, one of the most interesting things about this game is its not played by top players so much, so players must figure out how to play on their own rather than seeing what the pros do (eg one pocket break, side rail 9 ball break.... how many people would do those if it wasnt for the pros and if not mant people played those games).
8ballwizard
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watched him
personally watch him beat the ghost going to 11 for 30$ a game. He was 8 games winner in about two hours on very tight (double shimmed) pockets in Grayslake ,IL year 99 or 2000 can't recall . But it was very impressive.
personally watch him beat the ghost going to 11 for 30$ a game. He was 8 games winner in about two hours on very tight (double shimmed) pockets in Grayslake ,IL year 99 or 2000 can't recall . But it was very impressive.
I've watched Cory Deuel play the one pocket ghost on a very tight triple shimmed Diamond table. He was getting 5/1 for $500 a game. He beat it a few time warming up but then only beat it once out of about 12 games gambling. He played it very well, he made long rail banks on the table and played jam up, but that table was just too tough. That's the only time I've seen anyone play the game. He said he'd play it some more the next day on normal Olhausen pockets getting 6/1 but that game never happened.
ok excuses first hehe, played for first time in over a month today and forgot my contacts to! 
Tried a quick 5 racks with BIH after the break on a shitty table:
5
6
8
5
9
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33
Not great but about a 7 average on first try. I missed a straight long pot on 8 with 3-4 more simple balls but otherwise picked off the balls ok. An absoloutly GREAT GAME loved it, very similar to a lot of snooker drills I found. Hard to suss the break out in such a short effort but a medium smash straight on seemed to work well. BIH def makes a difference, Efren would make 40 EASY with BIH thats for sure.
Will try again when get chance
Tried a quick 5 racks with BIH after the break on a shitty table:
5
6
8
5
9
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33
Not great but about a 7 average on first try. I missed a straight long pot on 8 with 3-4 more simple balls but otherwise picked off the balls ok. An absoloutly GREAT GAME loved it, very similar to a lot of snooker drills I found. Hard to suss the break out in such a short effort but a medium smash straight on seemed to work well. BIH def makes a difference, Efren would make 40 EASY with BIH thats for sure.
Will try again when get chance
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Efren playing the REAL one pocket ghost
Here's a story about Efren playing the REAL one pocket ghost.....We played, cheap, $50 a game - he gave me 12-7 and the breaks.....^_^
Here's a story about Efren playing the REAL one pocket ghost.....We played, cheap, $50 a game - he gave me 12-7 and the breaks.....^_^