One Pocket Lessons (expensive)

JerseyBill said:
Scott, thanks for your reply, at least it was a civil one.
I'll start by giving a guarantee.
ANYONE wants lessons, the first lesson is 200$ for an hour.
The payment is put on the light as if we were gambling. If at the end of the lesson you don't want anymore or think it wasn't worth it. You can reach up and take your money back, no hard feelings.
That's a pretty good guarantee.
Bill
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Regardless of how the sales pitch is done, is there a part of this people don't get? If you don't like it you get your money back guaranteed and you got it here in writing.

If you don't like it or how it is being pitched, skip this thread and go to the next one.
 
the value of a lesson

Bill did say $200.00 for the first hour, with a money back guarantee. He hasn't given a clue if the rate is $20.00 or $2000.00 an hour after that.

I've been told two sentences that made me thousands and I have sat through nine months of classes that were totally useless to me, never made me a dime in the last forty years so I'm doubting they ever will. The value of a lesson isn't measured by the hour. I don't know if Bill's lessons are worth the price or not but a few people have stepped forward to indicate that they just might be.

I'm not gonna scoff or jump on board, I have been around a little while myself. JerseyBill wanted to get attention. He succeeded with that. Now I'll wait and see what happens next.

Hu
 
One Pocket lessons (Expensive) Reply to questions

manwon said:
Bill, good luck with teaching, but to be a good teach you must also be able to learn. What you have presented here amounts to nothing, you must do much more than make a post on an INTERNET. Like others have said please have some of those you have had success playing post here and tell us who you are.

No disrespect Bill, but I for one do not know who you are.
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Hi,
Sorry to those of you that read this as some hustle. Sorry if I let some of you get under my skin and I may have replied in a manner which wasn't cool.
I want to give lessons. I'm respected as a good one pocket player and teacher with my friends and peers. Many of which are in other states than New Jersey. I don't want to do it for small change as I've put a lot of time into the game and I just want to get what I think I'm worth.
I on occasion do commentary for ACCUSTATS on one pocket and various other games. You can ask any of the people that do commentary for him if they think I"m qualified. ie. Billy Incardona Danny DiLiberto and a host of others. You can ask Grady Matthews the "Professor" I'm sure he'll give me a good recommendation. I've played in Derby City and came in the money most of the time. The best I finished was tie 12-16th place Through the years I've beaten many of the top players in tournaments. I could name them but that might be construed as putting them down. I could go on and on but I was trying not to do that. I just wanted to see if someone wanted lessons. It seems that the BCA instructors want to think that having a BCA certificate makes them more qualified than me. Maybe they are, I don't know them personally, but maybe they aren't. I'm not a kid and there are many people that can beat me now that couldn't have years ago. The main thing is there aren't many people in the country that are smarter than I am at the game. There are a bunch and the number is getting bigger as the years go by. I have been teaching for years but not officially. Just with friends and people that I have played or that saw me play have asked me to teach them and I have. In most cases they improved substantially, but some cases not so well. In any case PM me in you seriously want lessons.
Thanks, Bill
 
Expensive lessons One Pocket

CreeDo said:
Maybe people who are deep into 1 pocket are supposed to have heard the nickname JerseyBill? If you go by another name or nickname, don't be afraid to post it.

If you still aren't someone that anyone has heard of, I can't imagine why they'd pay for expensive lessons. Maybe you can name some of the people you've beat? Could you take down, I dunno, scott frost? grady? jose?
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Hi,
Sorry to those of you that read this as some hustle. Sorry if I let some of you get under my skin and I may have replied in a manner which wasn't cool.
I want to give lessons. I'm respected as a good one pocket player and teacher with my friends and peers. Many of which are in other states than New Jersey. I don't want to do it for small change as I've put a lot of time into the game and I just want to get what I think I'm worth.
I on occasion do commentary for ACCUSTATS on one pocket and various other games. You can ask any of the people that do commentary for him if they think I"m qualified. ie. Billy Incardona Danny DiLiberto and a host of others. You can ask Grady Matthews the "Professor" I'm sure he'll give me a good recommendation. I've played in Derby City and came in the money most of the time. The best I finished was tie 12-16th place Through the years I've beaten many of the top players in tournaments. I could name them but that might be construed as putting them down. I could go on and on but I was trying not to do that. I just wanted to see if someone wanted lessons. It seems that the BCA instructors want to think that having a BCA certificate makes them more qualified than me. Maybe they are, I don't know them personally, but maybe they aren't. I'm not a kid and there are many people that can beat me now that couldn't have years ago. The main thing is there aren't many people in the country that are smarter than I am at the game. There are a bunch and the number is getting bigger as the years go by. I have been teaching for years but not officially. Just with friends and people that I have played or that saw me play have asked me to teach them and I have. In most cases they improved substantially, but some cases not so well. In any case PM me if you seriously want lessons.
Thanks, Bill
 
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Reply to One Pocket lessons (expensive)

Josh Palmer said:
I've seen instructors who can't play a lick either, and I wonder why they are teaching.... Not implying anyone, just saying. If I were a person looking for lessons, I'd want them from someone who's been to the top of the mountain looking down, not looking up from the bottom.
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Hi,
Sorry to those of you that read this as some hustle. Sorry if I let some of you get under my skin and I may have replied in a manner which wasn't cool.
I want to give lessons. I'm respected as a good one pocket player and teacher with my friends and peers. Many of which are in other states than New Jersey. I don't want to do it for small change as I've put a lot of time into the game and I just want to get what I think I'm worth.
I on occasion do commentary for ACCUSTATS on one pocket and various other games. You can ask any of the people that do commentary for him if they think I"m qualified. ie. Billy Incardona Danny DiLiberto and a host of others. You can ask Grady Matthews the "Professor" I'm sure he'll give me a good recommendation. I've played in Derby City and came in the money most of the time. The best I finished was tie 12-16th place Through the years I've beaten many of the top players in tournaments. I could name them but that might be construed as putting them down. I could go on and on but I was trying not to do that. I just wanted to see if someone wanted lessons. It seems that the BCA instructors want to think that having a BCA certificate makes them more qualified than me. Maybe they are, I don't know them personally, but maybe they aren't. I'm not a kid and there are many people that can beat me now that couldn't have years ago. The main thing is there aren't many people in the country that are smarter than I am at the game. There are a bunch and the number is getting bigger as the years go by. I have been teaching for years but not officially. Just with friends and people that I have played or that saw me play have asked me to teach them and I have. In most cases they improved substantially, but some cases not so well. In any case PM me if you seriously want lessons.
Thanks, Bill
 
Masayoshi said:
I don't think Josh was saying that you need to be a former world champion to coach pool, just that a C player probably wouldn't make a good coach.
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Hi,
I'm not a C player. Thanks for the bump and I'd like you to read this. I sent it out to a few others that replied in a dubious fashion.


Hi,
Sorry to those of you that read this as some hustle. Sorry if I let some of you get under my skin and I may have replied in a manner which wasn't cool.
I want to give lessons. I'm respected as a good one pocket player and teacher with my friends and peers. Many of which are in other states than New Jersey. I don't want to do it for small change as I've put a lot of time into the game and I just want to get what I think I'm worth.
I on occasion do commentary for ACCUSTATS on one pocket and various other games. You can ask any of the people that do commentary for him if they think I"m qualified. ie. Billy Incardona Danny DiLiberto and a host of others. You can ask Grady Matthews the "Professor" I'm sure he'll give me a good recommendation. I've played in Derby City and came in the money most of the time. The best I finished was tie 12-16th place Through the years I've beaten many of the top players in tournaments. I could name them but that might be construed as putting them down. I could go on and on but I was trying not to do that. I just wanted to see if someone wanted lessons. It seems that the BCA instructors want to think that having a BCA certificate makes them more qualified than me. Maybe they are, I don't know them personally, but maybe they aren't. I'm not a kid and there are many people that can beat me now that couldn't have years ago. The main thing is there aren't many people in the country that are smarter than I am at the game. There are a bunch and the number is getting bigger as the years go by. I have been teaching for years but not officially. Just with friends and people that I have played or that saw me play have asked me to teach them and I have. In most cases they improved substantially, but some cases not so well. In any case PM me in you seriously want lessons.
Thanks, Bill
 
Good Luck

alstl said:
When I first saw the post and "I charge a lot of money" I thought it was a joke but I see a lot of serious replies.

Good luck Jersey Bill.
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Thanks, I could use the bump. I think a lot of people don't get it. This is how I replied to some of them.


Hi,
Sorry to those of you that read this as some hustle. Sorry if I let some of you get under my skin and I may have replied in a manner which wasn't cool.
I want to give lessons. I'm respected as a good one pocket player and teacher with my friends and peers. Many of which are in other states than New Jersey. I don't want to do it for small change as I've put a lot of time into the game and I just want to get what I think I'm worth.
I on occasion do commentary for ACCUSTATS on one pocket and various other games. You can ask any of the people that do commentary for him if they think I"m qualified. ie. Billy Incardona Danny DiLiberto and a host of others. You can ask Grady Matthews the "Professor" I'm sure he'll give me a good recommendation. I've played in Derby City and came in the money most of the time. The best I finished was tie 12-16th place Through the years I've beaten many of the top players in tournaments. I could name them but that might be construed as putting them down. I could go on and on but I was trying not to do that. I just wanted to see if someone wanted lessons. It seems that the BCA instructors want to think that having a BCA certificate makes them more qualified than me. Maybe they are, I don't know them personally, but maybe they aren't. I'm not a kid and there are many people that can beat me now that couldn't have years ago. The main thing is there aren't many people in the country that are smarter than I am at the game. There are a bunch and the number is getting bigger as the years go by. I have been teaching for years but not officially. Just with friends and people that I have played or that saw me play have asked me to teach them and I have. In most cases they improved substantially, but some cases not so well. In any case PM me if you seriously want lessons.
Thanks, Bill
 
Play or gamble, BIG DIFFERENCE

Rick S. said:
You'll play....or gamble? BIG difference there.
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To me there is no difference. I only gamble. If I play, it's just with a friend or family. Everyone else is fair game. Are you in the category I mentioned? If so , let's make a date to play. My batting average is pretty good if you really want to try me. BUT that's not why I put this up. I just want to teach. Doesn't anyone understand that? There are people I teach that my pay is them gambling with me. Sometimes I lose because I give them a handicap and they are getting better because of me. I'm sick of that I just want to get paid every time.

Anyhow, good luck, Bill
 
Impression, be nice

easy-e said:
You aren't making a great impression on people so far. Be nice:D.
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You know , you're absolutely right. BUT, you're not the one that received a bunch of negative comments so it's easy for you to say that. Anyhow, I apologize to those of you that have to see me lose it like this.
thanks, Bill

ps. I just want to give lessons and get paid. I was up front from the begining. I didn't want to brag about my exploits.
thanks for the advice anyhow....
 
JerseyBill said:
IF what I presented amounts to nothing, WHY did you bother commenting about something you're not interested in. Are you just a knocker. If someone thinks it's not good for them, JUST PASS, I'll get students my way or not at all. And that's fine by me.
Bill
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Knocker, I knocked no one, in fact I was not even sarcastic, it's your presentation that needs some work, I will contact Grady and see if knows you. I hope Grady would be considered some action for you, he is certainly in age group you listed above.

Good Luck Bill
 
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JerseyBill said:
Josh Palmer,
CAN YOU GIVE THEM?
If not , and you don't want any, GO ELSEWHERE TO bother people. I'm just trying to give lessons to people that can afford it and really want them from a very smart player.
thankyou,


Bill
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Bill.. wasn't implying you.. I am talking about others who speak, and who have not done... sorry if you felt offended
 
Thanks for the positive response

Tennesseejoe said:
Jersey Bill, thanks for contributing to the forum: its great to have new members with a wealth of experience. I hope you will share some of your hard earned One Pocket knowledge on this forum and on the OnePocket.org forum. Using the WEI table to advertise/market some of your knowledge may show us what you are about.

It is a shame that some members have a tendency to be so negative especially if they have no intent to take lessons from you. But that is just they way it is. Some of the so called elite instructors who post here are a little above themselves in both their technical and instructional abilities. They do pass some great information along from time to time but don't let their abrasive personalities cloud your perspective of the rest of us.

I look forward to what you have to share.
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thanks I'm so glad to hear a positive thinking response.
I was starting to get a bad opinion of the whole population of AZ billiards
I feel better now.
I'm so sick of the naysayers it's impossible to explain. All I wanted to do was teach. I was up front about everything. I didn't want to brag or advertise how good i was just how much i knew. i do commentary on accustats on occasion with Danny DiLiberto and others for One Pocket, or other games too. I didn't want to be a name dropper because teaching is not competing and you know the old saying "Those that cannot do teach" Well, that's not always true. Anyhow, thanks for the good manners.
Bill
 
jrhendy said:
Bill, I am 70 and will play some if we come across each other. I go to the Derby, will be in Phoenix the end of April and Oklahoma (Shooters) in Sept if they have a tournament there. I live on the West Coast in No. Calif. If you ever get out this way and want to play let me know.

I have posted my thoughts on lessons on onepocket.org You may be a great teacher/player. I would try to find out for $200 a game - guarantee 5 games. John
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Bill,

It appears you missed one post from John waiting for a responce. I just thought I'd bump it up for you again.

I do wish you well with your lessons and welcome to the forum. One suggestion, since you've given references, you might as well just tell us your whole name.

Dave
 
Response to good luck

LeagueGuy said:
Bill,

Just wanted to say good luck to you in your endevour. I support anyone who wants to give something back to the game - even if he charges for it and tries to make a little off of it.

Ignore alot of the othe guys on here as they do nothing but bash everything and everybody. They appear to have no friends and this is their only social outlet.

Like I said, good luck with the lessons. I hope it works out for you.
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Thanks for the great attitude. I did let some of the lower class people get under my skin. When I said 200$ I was just fuming at the time. It was as I was reading one of the negative responses. But of course you might get a top name to give you lessons for 200$. And maybe they should try and get them. On the other hand I'm giving a money back guarantee with my lessons. Put the money on the light at the end of the lesson if you feel it wasn't worth it, take your money back. No questions asked! Remember, some people live far from me and there is traveling and lodging to consider in costing out lessons.
thanks, again
Bill
ps sorry if some people think I'm an A hole. I can't help it. I'm must trying my best.
 
Inflamatory remarks

Scott Lee said:
bill...Yes, it was a civil response, much the same as was manwon's and CreeDo's. Mark Gregory basically said the same thing (post some student testamonials), and you didn't "attack" him. Why...because you know him? This is an incredible place with a WEALTH of knowledge and opportunity. Manwon and CreeDo contribute all the time. You're a brand new poster. For you to come back with, "I can kick your a$$, and if you don't think so BET SOMETHING" is childish at best, and a total turnoff to many potential students. BTW, I know jtompilot, and he isn't afraid to gamble with ANYONE. He gets around too.

All any of us were trying to do, was offer you some suggestions to allow people to make educated decisions. You are upfront that you charge a lot...so do I, and make no bones about it. I like your guarantee...I make the same one, and it's in writing on my website. Please be civil when replying to others here. You attract a lot more flies with honey than you do vinegar! :D Best of luck with your lessons. Blackjack's offer to help you get going is a VERY generous (and heartfelt) one, considering your initial posts here. If I were you, I'd take advantage of it. David has a sterling reputation, and is a great instructor himself.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
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Scott,
Sorry,
I was reading one after another knocking me and I got off the track.
Your response was a reasonable one and maybe I read something else into it. I may have responded to the wrong person when I said I'd gamble. Someone was requesting my credentials in the form of who can I beat. Mentioning Scott Frost, of course I can't and it made me mad that he was knocking me like that. I still play okay and have some player pride left. And I was serious when I said I'd play anyone my age that wasn't a world champ or ex champ. And I'd play for money, BUT this wasn't about that. I only got goated into saying that by someone else not you. So I"m sorry about that again. You sound like a good guy.
Bill
 
to the point

scrappy said:
Bill was to the point and quite frankly the world could use more of that

if you're so sensitive and quick to judge someone you've never met you need to get a grip

scrap
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Thanks for seeing what I was trying to do.
I do commentary for Accustats on One Pocket sometimes and I guess I thought more people knew me than actually do. So I didn't want to brag and say who I beat and tell stories of me on the road. There is too much BS in the pool world already.
thanks for your positive remarks
Bill
 
A little cranky are we?

I can appreciate cranky.The 3 school teachers i care to remember never
gave me a break.A golf pro i worked for since i was 12 would settle for nothing less than scratch,which ,much to his irritation,didn't happen till
i was 16.An old-time pool champion never gave me anything but grief.He
would only show SOME approval by betting on my serious money matches.These people i remember only with affection,they never gave
me false flattery,only good advice.

So i think you just might have the goods and i'll avoid your pupils.
Pocketpared presents your case well.A 3rd party can be valuable.

And if your last name is Dunsmore,i got your back as well.
 
knockers

mikeyfrost said:
Why is it other instructers knock new instructers like they're stealing action. If the man wants to teach one pocket let him teach. He made the post to let people know that he's out there and ready to help some people. All he's saying is he knows how to play the game and wants to make a few bucks and help others. Instead people just see that as him taking money away from them.

Good luck Jersey Bill and hopefully the haters don't hold you back. Instead of $200/hr. the price should only go up from there with all the hate and knocking you have to fade from the other guys.
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Mike,
Thanks for seeing exactly what I thought I was seeing. I was begining to think I was going crazy after everyone was telling me I was doing it wrong.
And much more than that. I wouldn't knock someone if they were going to play a game for money. Anyhow, I lost my temper and I'm sorry for those of you that matter.
thanks, Bill
 
JerseyBill said:
thanks I'm so glad to hear a positive thinking response.
I was starting to get a bad opinion of the whole population of AZ billiards
I feel better now.
I'm so sick of the naysayers it's impossible to explain. All I wanted to do was teach. I was up front about everything. I didn't want to brag or advertise how good i was just how much i knew. i do commentary on accustats on occasion with Danny DiLiberto and others for One Pocket, or other games too. I didn't want to be a name dropper because teaching is not competing and you know the old saying "Those that cannot do teach" Well, that's not always true. Anyhow, thanks for the good manners.
Bill
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Glad you feel better. You make it seem like we are the bad guys but in reality, the reaction you have received is predictable. It doesn't matter who would have posted what you stated - the first post wasn't very informative, we don't know you at all, and then you fire back at people. Granted, some responses were harsh (and inappropriate)... but if you are looking to help others, then firing back is not the answer.

I am in a business where no matter how people may act towards me, I always have to respond professionally, no matter how personal or ticked I may be. Your replies are getting better, but I respectfully suggest that you keep continuing being nice because it sounds like you could help some people and that's great - let's get that going for you!
 
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