One pocket moves

[Cory in DC]

Naji does not support your shot selection.

Upon further reflection, I really don't like the bread and butter shot here, because the 3 and 15 both go. Put the 5 over there and you could get a cluster, give your opponent the option to double you up on a safety, and/or block the banking lane (as drawn in Creedo's sketch).

And, if I were to bank the 5 roughly as drawn, I'd draw the CB back into the stack.

Surely Naji and his spokesmodel would agree?

 

[onepocketron]

If you opponent has a ball close to their hole on or near the end rail, and a ball on the side rail for an easy bank, rather than banking the ball on the side rail into your pocket, bank the ball to your side of the table and freeze the cue ball on the back side of the ball near his hole on the end cushion. Most beginners woud try to make the bank, but trust me, if you freeze the cue ball on the back of the ball hear his pocket, he won't be loving you as this severly limits his options. Often the best move is to move a ball to your pocket and trap your opponent.

Another move is to move a ball to your pocket that can be made from anywhere on the table, and leave your oppenent a very difficult shot, preferably with the cue ball frozen on the far end rail. If he makes a few of them in a row, abandon this strategy, if he keeps selling out, rinse and repeat.

 

[Love The Game]

Your question has an almost limitless number of replies. Here's my take from a guy that loves the intricacies but has a hard time executing under pressure.

Okay. Here we go. You just have to be proficient at the basics of pocket billiards. Easy! No problem. Most players get this early on. Been playin 40 years and I'm sure I've pretty much got this now. HA!

OK, we got that done. No problem again. Now we simply go about learning the rules. OK. Eight in one hole. How hard could that be? There are 15 balls after all. Gives me lots of chances to miss right?

Shouldn't take long. Not a problem! After studying up it's simple. All you have to do to be a one hole wunderkind is:

*Read Eddie Robin's books (Google if needed as to particulars)
*Practice against yourself - as Nike's slogan says "Just do it"
*Shoot a million, ok maybe not that many, cross corner, off angle and straight back banks and touch shots
*Concentrate on pocket speed - lagging within a diamond is strong
*Unless you are a Power One Pocket guy (so much firepower you can just go for the 8 and out/big run consistently) play for the other guy to make a mistake
*If you play a Power One Pocket guy you are on your own and I disavow this strategy
*Become a regular at onepocket.org - this is really important for the quality of input you will receive regarding all aspects of the game
*Gamble at the game for what you can afford - your learning curve will definitely proceed more rapidly than practicing by yourself

Those are the basic basics. Have fun. One pocket is addictive. Best game on a pool table ever. Now, on a serious note. What I have said is both tongue in cheek and deadly serious. If you have not tried it, you are missing out. If you are like me and have a hard time in the execution department, do not despair. The one pocket game is the ultimate puzzle for pocket billiard enthusiasts. I just hope that one day I can just play somewhere close to my potential.

I have played pool for fifty years and learn moves everyday in this most seductive and difficult of pocket billiard games. Edit, I know how to shoot the ball in the hole. My stroke is not the same when I have to come with a shot in this game. Therein lies the problem with execution. Love the game of one pocket.

Potentially yours,
LTG



Cheers

 

[8pack]

Thanks for all the great reply's


Wish I could play this game well,its an awesome game.




Anthony

 

[CJ Wiley]

more interesting than one pocket because it's faster because all 6 pockets.......

Just wondering what are the most common one hole moves.
Ex...Maybe skimming a ball or banking a ball towards your hole and letting the cb go to the rail and back into the stack.(leaving the cb stuck in the stack)

I know there's a lot of moves just curious about the most common used.

Thanks Anthony

One pocket has a lot of strategic moves, no doubt. It may surprise many that "Roll Out" 9 Ball has even more because you're using 6 pockets and utilizing "2 Way Shots" almost every game. It's much more interesting than one pocket because it's faster because all 6 pockets are in play for each player.

Roll Out was the only game we gambled at in the 70s and 80s until one foul was designed to "speed up play" and "even the playing field so weaker players had a chance".....I predict the future of the game will cycle back to the fundamental "Roll Out" Rules......it's so strategic, maybe close to 100 time more so than "One Foul".

 

[richiebalto]

One of the prime reasons 1pocket is a great game is because it tests every facet of your game in a way that no other game does. You must be able to run balls (to one pocket no less); you must be able to bank one, two, three, and four rails (there are more exotic five railers too); you must be able to shoot caroms and combos; you need to be able to hit balls softly and at speed; you need to know your CB and lay it up precisely where you desire; and, you need to have a good mind for pool and be able to accurately assess your opponent's game and more importantly, your own.

You can't be weak at any of this.

Lou Figueroa

Great post Lou, my biggest weakness is running balls, my best is moving the q ball and the object balls (moving).

So Lou when iam playing a great player like Shuff, i could out move him but he would have to mess up 2-3 times before i would get 8 balls, now if i mess up just 1 time, Shuff would either run out or get a bunch at 1 time.

So what iam saying Lou, my opponent can mess up a few times and i mite not win the game because of my pocketing balls skills.

But on the other hand if i mess up once iam in trouble.

Your post is very true, a 1 pocket player must be very good at all aspects of the game!

 

[lfigueroa]

Great post Lou, my biggest weakness is running balls, my best is moving the q ball and the object balls (moving).

So Lou when iam playing a great player like Shuff, i could out move him but he would have to mess up 2-3 times before i would get 8 balls, now if i mess up just 1 time, Shuff would either run out or get a bunch at 1 time.

So what iam saying Lou, my opponent can mess up a few times and i mite not win the game because of my pocketing balls skills.

But on the other hand if i mess up once iam in trouble.

Your post is very true, a 1 pocket player must be very good at all aspects of the game!

Yes, you must be able to run balls when the opportunity arises. And what separates the good player from the great player is how many they grab when given the chance. The top dogs, when they get an opening, are always looking to get *all of them.*

So two things: practice 14.1 and learn to run the balls. That is huge. The other thing to try throwing out five or six balls and running them to one pocket, in rotation. That's something I came up with to train myself to get me out of my comfort zone and learn to shoot a wider array of positional shots. It has helped a lot.

Lou Figueroa

 

[Black-Balled]

Upon further reflection, I really don't like the bread and butter shot here, because the 3 and 15 both go. Put the 5 over there and you could get a cluster, give your opponent the option to double you up on a safety, and/or block the banking lane (as drawn in Creedo's sketch).

And, if I were to bank the 5 roughly as drawn, I'd draw the CB back into the stack.

Surely Naji and his spokesmodel would agree?

OK, I'll fess up...I can't see the pic. Blocked on ye ole work PC, for my own safety (as you surely are tyring to insert holes into my 'game').

 

[Black-Balled]

...I predict the future of the game will cycle back to the fundamental "Roll Out" Rules......it's so strategic, maybe close to 100 time more so than "One Foul".

No way, CJ. It is absolutely ludicrous to think that pushing out should be allowed, ever. It shouldn't even be allowed after the break in rotation games, IMO.

If it is such a good idea, why is it not implemented in other games or an equivalent found in other sports?

 

[Black-Balled]

No way, CJ. It is absolutely ludicrous to think that pushing out should be allowed, ever. It shouldn't even be allowed after the break in rotation games, IMO.

If it is such a good idea, why is it not implemented in other games or an equivalent found in other sports?

 

[Tramp Steamer]

Upon further reflection, I really don't like the bread and butter shot here, because the 3 and 15 both go. Put the 5 over there and you could get a cluster, give your opponent the option to double you up on a safety, and/or block the banking lane (as drawn in Creedo's sketch).
And, if I were to bank the 5 roughly as drawn, I'd draw the CB back into the stack.
Surely Naji and his spokesmodel would agree?

Remember, there is usually more than one shot available, in any given situation, while playing One Ho. I mean One Pocket.

 

[Cory in DC]

Remember, there is usually more than one shot available, in any given situation, while playing One Ho. I mean One Pocket.

And that's why one pocket is such a great game! The same is true in other games, but to a much lesser extent (and least so in 9-ball, which is not coincidentally my least favorite game to play).

 

[Fatboy]

seriously thats what we used to call it in Stockton for years in the 80's , "playin' ho", I didnt play it much back then, i said "I'll wait until im older" that was a HUGE mistake, after I started playin ho, i jumped a speed up playing other games.

Its the best game ever. I have always liked to sweat it, even before i played it.

 

[cleary]

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I'm not a huge fan of this. I don't think the outcome really helps you that much and the reply (stun the 2ball, leave the you frozen in the stack) is too easy.

I'd rather do either
(risky)
1. jack up slightly and draw the cueball into the stack, banking the 5 into some balls towards your side.

(safer)
2. cross bank the 5 into the stack and leave the cueball up table.

Then again, I'm terrible at 1 pocket and all pool games in general.

 

[Tramp Steamer]

seriously thats what we used to call it in Stockton for years in the 80's , "playin' ho", I didnt play it much back then, i said "I'll wait until im older" that was a HUGE mistake, after I started playin ho, i jumped a speed up playing other games.
Its the best game ever. I have always liked to sweat it, even before i played it.

It's true. Anything else is just something to do until the One Pocket players show up.