Playing one hole,your opponent has just put you in a serious trap.You are the upper pocket and it's your move.
One pocket pickle
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Aren't you concerned about leaving a cut shot on the 4?
I like this idea. Maybe even draw a 1/4 inch back to block the 4-ball cut shot.jrhendy said:
Onepocket73 said:
No, I'm going to stick the cue ball near or on the 13 where he can't see the 4.
Re: Fan-tum's suggestion to take a scratch, you leave a cross bank on the 14 & more balls are near his hole if one doesn't go in. I am looking for the simplest solution when in this kind of trap. John
Nice - looks like a straight shot on the 5 would do it and let you stick the CB (but are you sure the 7 doesn't kiss off the 10 and roll back in front of the pocket?).
Here's what I probably would have thought of, which isn't as nice and probably more risky:
pj
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This is what I like,taking a scratch.But I like putting the cueball on the center diamond,short rail.fan-tum said:
You're probably a better one holer than I am.Your shot seems risky to me.A simpler solution for me,and I agree with keeping it simple,is taking the scratch to the upper center diamond.This eliminates the cross corner bank on the 14.jrhendy said:
This shot is VERY risky! I don't know that I would have the knads to go for itPatrick Johnson said:
jrhendy said:
If you can hit the top part of the 7 with the 5, it will move them both uptable and leave the CB behind the 13, nice move jrhendy.
Onepocket73 said:
John's shot is actually a lot less risky than you think. Go and set it up without all the other balls and practice it; you'll need this shot in the future. The trick is being able to hit it hard and only move the cue ball forward a few inches under the 13. This was not even a pickle to begin with. Your not on the rail, and your not froze on any balls. You have a lot of options with one real simple one right in front of you.
Now that I consider your solution, I like your's better. But how many times have we tried to play the 5 into the seven, get a weird kiss, and he runs 4 or 5 or worse. A good asset for a one pocket player is a good memory of past disasters.Onepocket73 said:
This thread could have ended here...though I would've shot the 13 to the 4 and stiching it on the 5. jr probably chooses the right shot.jrhendy said:
If jrhendy sez shoot it: shoot it. I will obey.
Patrick Johnson said:
Oh, c'mon! A double carom, with speed?!
Onepocket73 said:
If you don't like John's shot, which would be my choice, you may want to try to kick two rails (short/long) and try to clip the edge of the 9-ball so the cue floats between the 10 & the 7 to the bottom rail. Yes it's risky but at least you get something done to get out of the trap if executed. You take the 9 bank out of the equation & it doesn't look like a scratch possibility. Even if you hit the 3 or the 10 you don't have to sell out. The intentional to the middle of the short rail does nothing since your opponent can easily hit rail 1st them the 14, back to the rail and fall aganst the same cushion it began on. You would gain nothing but less than a diamond from where it began. Or your opponent can do something agressive and begin running balls. John's selection seemed to accomplish much more with very little risk.
Dave
Patrick Johnson said:
That's what I saw. Hard to tell on here of course, but it looks like the 11-12 was close to dead, so I like breaking that up for later on and putting my opponent on the other side of the trap.
I would shoot into the 12 and that would combo the 11 of the 15 into the 1 6 combo,moving a ball the my hole and perhaps making it while also stunning the cue ball off the 12 and hopefully leaving the cue ball by his hole where he cant play the 10 ball,that would be my shot,the 6 looks like it might go. 
I think you were trying to show a shot that the scratch was the right shot. IMO, this isn't one of them. I'm thinking everyone shoots John's shot instead. Sweep the 5 and 7 and stick to the 13.Onepocket73 said:
No doubt that knowing when to shoot the intentional scratch is a powerful bit of knowledge. But overuse is worse.
Fred