# Online fargo calculator

#### Bob Jewett

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So.... Is the secret out?

Or is the secret that there is no secret?

It's so confusing...
If you're confused, what chance is there for the rest of us?

And I hope your system is ready to handle 4-digit ratings.

#### sjm

##### Older and Wiser
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So I have been keeping track of all my local tournament stats as far as percentage of balls made versus balls missed, which I think is what fargo basically is...and I calculate it to about 1200 fargo rating. Is that good? I've been trying to find a fargo calculator to check my math.
At 1200, Gorst and Filler will be ducking you, but you should get a good cue sponsor.

#### garczar

##### AzB Silver Member
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Trying to equally handicap Group of people is IMHO a tough task.

Too many capable to favor in to make any system fair.

The do not using any handicapping in Olympics, but no one cries.

Every person has equal chance at Gold, or a Medal. Some athletes just are better. Best of best win a Medal, other just got to try to win.
Yeah right. They have some lame system that used in Arizona. ONLY. And Fargo is used world-wide on a daily basis. Please go away.

#### CocoboloCowboy

##### Cowboys are my hero's
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Yeah right. They have some lame system that used in Arizona. ONLY. And Fargo is used world-wide on a daily basis. Please go away.

So tell us wise one what was wrong with our Arizona system v/s Fargo. Have you ever seen the system, Joe it works, how it move one up or down?

Should be interesting reply. From some person who can find Arizona on US map.

All systems are flawed by what game or equipment plays plays, or don’t play,.

If a plays only play on Valley table with crap felt, it is a small world they play in.

How would any system handicap them for Bank pool on 9’ Diamond?

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#### Brookeland Bill

##### AzB Silver Member
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Is this the North Korean Fargo Rate system?

If it's like their golf, dear leader once made 18 hole in 1's - then quit as the game was too easy.

KimKargoRate.
Donald would do something similar in pool. Drag balls in with his hand or stick them in in his pockets.

#### WobblyStroke

##### Well-known member
Donald would do something similar in pool. Drag balls in with his hand or stick them in in his pockets.
I guess Biden would walk around sewering the white and doing everything possible to lose only to walk around afterwards talking about how Trump lost that match real bad.

#### thenaturalpoolplayer

##### Active member
Trying to equally handicap Group of people is IMHO a tough task.

Too many capable to favor in to make any system fair.

The do not using any handicapping in Olympics, but no one cries.

Every person has equal chance at Gold, or a Medal. Some athletes just are better. Best of best win a Medal, other just got to try to win.
I agree get rid of the handicap.
At 1200, Gorst and Filler will be ducking you, but you should get a good cue sponsor.
As they should be. As I should be. Afterall I did achieve the 2nd most runouts in my local tournament...I was even given a trophy/thermos to show for it. What have they achieved?

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#### telinoz

##### Registered
Donald would do something similar in pool. Drag balls in with his hand or stick them in in his pockets.
Ha ha.
Then takes the credit for winning the game.
Gets told he cheated, then says he is not to blame.

Sounds spot on.

#### garczar

##### AzB Silver Member
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I guess Biden would walk around sewering the white and doing everything possible to lose only to walk around afterwards talking about how Trump lost that match real bad.
Biden would forget wtf he was doing with a stick in his hand after a couple shots. Trump would give the Gropinator the 5ball, the ORANGE 5ball btw, in any pool action.

#### easy-e

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Yeah right. They have some lame system that used in Arizona. ONLY. And Fargo is used world-wide on a daily basis. Please go away.
Luckily they got rid of that system a couple years ago.

#### hang-the-9

##### AzB Silver Member
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So I have been keeping track of all my local tournament stats as far as percentage of balls made versus balls missed, which I think is what fargo basically is...and I calculate it to about 1200 fargo rating. Is that good? I've been trying to find a fargo calculator to check my math.

Not that is not what Fargo basically is, where did you get that idea? How did you translate the stats to Fargo? It's just based on games won and lost against known skill opponents.
Balls made vs errors is what TPA does from AccuStats.

The current top players in Fargo are in the 800 range, a 1200 range, I don't even know how good you would need to play to reach that. It would be playing players like SVB, Pagulayan, Filler, Gorst, Shaw and giving them a 16-2 handicap. For every 100 point difference the match outcome is 2-1 in games won, so for 800 to play a 1200, that is an 8-1 ratio of expected games per match. I would guess a 1200 level player would make one mistake like a miss or bad safe or missed kick once a week or something LOL.

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#### fastone371

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So tell us wise one what was wrong with our Arizona system v/s Fargo. Have you ever seen the system, Joe it works, how it move one up or down?

Should be interesting reply. From some person who can find Arizona on US map.

All systems are flawed by what game or equipment plays plays, or don’t play,.

If a plays only play on Valley table with crap felt, it is a small world they play in.

How would any system handicap them for Bank pool on 9’ Diamond?
The system in Arizona probably only applies to those who play in Arizona, Fargo is the same across the country. The equipment that you play on does not affect your Fargo rating, isn't your opponent also playing on that same table???

#### Fatboy

##### AzB Silver Member
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At 1200, Gorst and Filler will be ducking you, but you should get a good cue sponsor.
At 1200 Balabuska himself might rise from the grave

#### Fatboy

##### AzB Silver Member
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The system in Arizona probably only applies to those who play in Arizona, Fargo is the same across the country. The equipment that you play on does not affect your Fargo rating, isn't your opponent also playing on that same table???
That’s system didn’t reach outside of Az that I’m aware of.

However it did work very well there for a long time. I saw that first hand and loved it. I never had an official rating. But sure made matching up for easy action real handy.

#### tomatoshooter

##### Well-known member
Not that is not what Fargo basically is, where did you get that idea? How did you translate the stats to Fargo? It's just based on games won and lost against known skill opponents.
Balls made vs errors is what TPA does from AccuStats.

The current top players in Fargo are in the 800 range, a 1200 range, I don't even know how good you would need to play to reach that. It would be playing players like SVB, Pagulayan, Filler, Gorst, Shaw and giving them a 16-2 handicap. For every 100 point difference the match outcome is 2-1 in games won, so for 800 to play a 1200, that is an 8-1 ratio of expected games per match. I would guess a 1200 level player would make one mistake like a miss or bad safe or missed kick once a week or something LOL.
TPA is balls pocketed/(balls pocketed + errors). I don't think you can get above 1.000 and because some errors count double, you are actually probably shooting a slightly higher percentage than your TPA.

#### garczar

##### AzB Silver Member
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TPA is balls pocketed/(balls pocketed + errors). I don't think you can get above 1.000 and because some errors count double, you are actually probably shooting a slightly higher percentage than your TPA.
IMO TPA gives more than enough info on match performance. Some new AZ member was touting a system that went into ULTRA-micro(as in shot-by-shot live stats) match stats. I just don't see why one would need/want info on that level. TPA is easy to compute and more than accurate enough.

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#### justnum

##### Redhawk PI
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IMO TPA gives more than enough info on match performance. Some new AZ member was touting a system that went into ULTRA-micro(as in shot-by-shot live stats) match stats. I just don't see why one would need/want info on that level. TPA is easy to compute and more than accurate enough.

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#### AF pool guy

##### AzB Silver Member
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Not that is not what Fargo basically is, where did you get that idea? How did you translate the stats to Fargo? It's just based on games won and lost against known skill opponents.
Balls made vs errors is what TPA does from AccuStats.

The current top players in Fargo are in the 800 range, a 1200 range, I don't even know how good you would need to play to reach that. It would be playing players like SVB, Pagulayan, Filler, Gorst, Shaw and giving them a 16-2 handicap. For every 100 point difference the match outcome is 2-1 in games won, so for 800 to play a 1200, that is an 8-1 ratio of expected games per match. I would guess a 1200 level player would make one mistake like a miss or bad safe or missed kick once a week or something LOL.

16 to 1 ratio for a 400 pt gap.

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#### buckshotshoey

##### AzB Silver Member
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I'm pretty sure a thousand is the maximum you can get. It be like batting over a thousand in baseball. You can't do it.