opinions on this cues please

undertaker

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hello, this are two phillipine made cues. the makers name is worx. this cues are not flawless but build much better than most of the ph. cues that i know. please tell me what you think, know about the maker...
 

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Not for me, but that is okay with me.

I am not very fond of CNC cues like this, but I do understand they have there place in this form of woodworking. I find cues with lots of increate CNC work look to mechanical to me (over manufactured in style)?
I am personally much more into the art of the craftsman of the past that did such work by hand and didn’t use computers.
I would guess you like them and that is the more important thing. The true question is how do they play, since the important thing here is that these are functional art items?

I see Worx is on ebay and maybe other places. The true question will be in time once they build up a following or don’t?

Bugs.
PS. Yes, I do own some CNC cues, and they are from the 80’s.
 

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toomanybugs said:
I am not very fond of CNC cues like this, but I do understand they have there place in this form of woodworking. I find cues with lots of increate CNC work look to mechanical to me (over manufactured in style)?
I am personally much more into the art of the craftsman of the past that did such work by hand and didn’t use computers.
I would guess you like them and that is the more important thing. The true question is how do they play, since the important thing here is that these are functional art items?

I see Worx is on ebay and maybe other places. The true question will be in time once they build up a following or don’t?

Bugs.
PS. Yes, I do own some CNC cues, and they are from the 80’s.

I may be completely wrong but I think I've heard here on AZ that most of the Philippine cue makers don't use CNC and they do it all by hand. I've been wrong before though!
 
zeeder said:
I may be completely wrong but I think I've heard here on AZ that most of the Philippine cue makers don't use CNC and they do it all by hand. I've been wrong before though!
Those cues look hand made to me.
They cannot afford cnc machines I think.
 
i think its impossible to do the inlays on this cues by hand. even with a pantograph is it very hard. i own a few customs like black boar, joss west... and the inlays on this two cues are nearly the same quality. i think they were made with cnc. the cues play good, maybe in the mcdermott, viking category.
the butts are straigth, one shaft too, the other is a little warped, but in the common range. finish is also very good. i was surprised myself to see such quality in this cues.
 
i have added one closer pics of the inlays (sorry, could not made it better with my camera) there are no gluelines, gaps.. the white floating point is in my opinion to intricate to cut it with the hand. i think it was made on a very good pantograph, cnc machine. maybe another phil. cuemaker knows more about this cues.
 

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undertaker said:
i have added one closer pics of the inlays (sorry, could not made it better with my camera) there are no gluelines, gaps.. the white floating point is in my opinion to intricate to cut it with the hand. i think it was made on a very good pantograph, cnc machine. maybe another phil. cuemaker knows more about this cues.
Guys...Lots of Phillipino cue makers do actual hand cut inlays, no panotgraph or CNC work. I am not sure if this is one of the cuemakers or not, but I can tell you they actually do it all by hand. I talked with a cuemaker in the Phillipines recently, and he purchased a CNC from me, but has been doing hand work for years. He stated it is definately done by hand by phillipino tradition that is dying off... I do not know if this is one of those cuemakers, but I know that http://www.queperfect.biz/ is one of them that does them by hand...
 
undertaker said:
i think its impossible to do the inlays on this cues by hand. even with a pantograph is it very hard. i own a few customs like black boar, joss west... and the inlays on this two cues are nearly the same quality. i think they were made with cnc. the cues play good, maybe in the mcdermott, viking category.
the butts are straigth, one shaft too, the other is a little warped, but in the common range. finish is also very good. i was surprised myself to see such quality in this cues.

my guess is cnc. if not a panto was used. as far as comparing the inlay quality with tony and bill's work you can't. it looks like from the pics that this cue maker uses too big of a cutter for his work. tony and bill as well as keith from time to time will use cutters as small as 10, 15 and 20 thousandth cutters for the fine work that need a radius. this work looks at the smallest maybe a standard 31+ thou cutter. as for the non radius-ed pieces they're all buried in ebony to hide the glue lines. also there is nothing that hard about doing these cues with a panto. have you ever seen some of joe gold's early masterpieces? all done with a panto. he has examples that would blow your mind and, no offense, make this work look like child's play.
 
undertaker said:
i have added one closer pics of the inlays (sorry, could not made it better with my camera) there are no gluelines, gaps.. the white floating point is in my opinion to intricate to cut it with the hand. i think it was made on a very good pantograph, cnc machine. maybe another phil. cuemaker knows more about this cues.

Don't worry.. if they find there way into a certain dealers hands they will be the best thing since sliced bread, they will all hit a ton and better yet.. they will all cost 8-30k.

JV
 
classiccues said:
Don't worry.. if they find there way into a certain dealers hands they will be the best thing since sliced bread, they will all hit a ton and better yet.. they will all cost 8-30k.

JV
the cues play good, maybe in the mcdermott, viking category.


Not when they hit like Viking or McDermott. :)
Now if they l hit ike Benders....
 
ill be honest i dont really like the no points with non circular rings look... they all remind me of those cheap 5280 cues that came out a few years ago. thats all personal preference tho, and i think the black one with the points looks real nice. i dont like the grey one because a solid color looks kinda wierd with a regular shaft.

however asthetics can always be reworked its all about the quality of the hit and the overall feel of the cue when being used imo.
 
I like the cue with the wrap. I have a cue ordered from the Phillipines...i'm just waiting to see what i get.
 
Buy a cue from the Phillippines without the shafts,sounds idiotic right?well most of them seem to warp once in the states,a good shaft on it and they will hit pretty nice and you get alot of bells and whistles for cheap too.;)
 
worx

hi, what designs do the typical players want with there cue? and we are planning to open a store in the USA and in if given the opportunity we are going to make our cues in the USA. So we can reach to your standards.

thanks
worx
 
worxcustomcues said:
hi, what designs do the typical players want with there cue? and we are planning to open a store in the USA and in if given the opportunity we are going to make our cues in the USA. So we can reach to your standards.

thanks
worx

Worx,

You should open a shop in Shanghai, China. There are thousands of pool players and no custom cue makers.

As far as designs go, most Filipino cues are too heavly decorated as far as I'm concerned. There is beauty in simple designs and excellent craftsmanship. The designs should be balanced. I prefer traditional woods and inlay materials.

Chris
 
hi,
thank you for your comment, we are trying different designs and we will see what most players want. we also want simple designs.. and hoping by next year we will have different designs on our cues, we will use imported wood like bocote, purple heart, pink ivory that kind of wood.. and i have a question, if anyone here can help us, where can we buy joint pins? like 5/8x10 that kind of pins.. your reply is greatly appreciated.

thanks
worx
 
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