opinions, please best ferrule for a jumpbreak

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other than the phenolic rod that prathers sells
like this

reason being, i was told recently these kind of ferrule/tips are illegal in apa
true???
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TellsItLikeItIs said:
Maybe in certain areas. The franchise owners can apply "local rules" if they choose, but I didn't see anything that says they're illegal in the 2006/2007 rule book.

http://www.poolplayers.com/8-9-ball-Rules.pdf
the impression i got from a few guys that do play in apa, i do not, is the tip has to be leather. i'm not sure if the phenolic ferrule is still ok or not. i just can't see the point in using one of those with a leather tip. maybe, it will be ok. i dunno. i normally use white diamonds from joe picone. but, those aren't leather either.
 
ratcues said:
Tiger makes a great jump/break tip.
yeah, i just put on the last one i had yesterday. but, i really do like the white diamonds over those. ever try one???
 
TellsItLikeItIs said:
They may be thinking of the IPT, rather than APA. Seems I read the IPT outlawed them casue they damage the cloth. Some room owners think the same I know. I don't agree. I'd be paying more attention to the nut doing masse shots, making my cloth look like a shotgun was taken to it. I break with an Ivorine III ferrule with a phenolic tip I made and am very satisfied with it. Been in place for over a year now and still going strong.
exactly!!! or the idiot sitting on the table, or the idiot setting a drink on the table. just about the time i think i've seen it all, somebody else does something really stupid on a table. saw three guys pick the end of the table up at least a foot and a half off the floor and drop it because ball was stuck in ball return rails, chalk in there. :rolleyes: if i owned the place, they'd be shot on sight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
fiber ferrules(the kind you see on house cues) are very durable, and that may be a good reason to get one.
 
stix4sale said:
yeah, i just put on the last one i had yesterday. but, i really do like the white diamonds over those. ever try one???

I've heard of them but never tried one. Maybe I should.....

I think any of the linen based ferrules work. If a ferrule is going to break, its going to break no matter what it is made out of. I put the Ivorine 3 on my jump cues and never had a problem.
 
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stix4sale said:
other than the phenolic rod that prathers sells
like this

reason being, i was told recently these kind of ferrule/tips are illegal in apa
true???
osageorangejumper6.jpg

Hey Guy, this tips are Legal for APA use. My teams have been going to APA and BCA Nationals for the last three years using these tip / Ferrule combinations with no problems.

In APA, however Jump shots are not Legal, so my players only use their Jump break cues for Breaking.

You can also purchase this same Rod material from Atlas Billiard Supply in 48 inch sections, and I think that they may also stock this material in Black now.

Long story short, I think this the best material for break cues, and it is all that I use myself.

Last, if you have people who do not like the tip being made of this material, just drill all the way through and thread a 1 inch section and place a leather tip on it, I use Water Buffalo tips for this and you still have the strength of the ferrule itself for extra power.


Manwon
 
manwon said:
Hey Guy, this tips are Legal for APA use. My teams have been going to APA and BCA Nationals for the last three years using these tip / Ferrule combinations with no problems.

In APA, however Jump shots are not Legal, so my players only use their Jump break cues for Breaking.

You can also purchase this same Rod material from Atlas Billiard Supply in 48 inch sections, and I think that they may also stock this material in Black now.

Long story short, I think this the best material for break cues, and it is all that I use myself.

Last, if you have people who do not like the tip being made of this material, just drill all the way through and thread a 1 inch section and place a leather tip on it, I use Water Buffalo tips for this and you still have the strength of the ferrule itself for extra power.


Manwon



Jumping is legal in APA, jump cues are not. APA used make you jump with your playing cue but the last 2 years at Nationals the refs allowed you to use your break cue to jump with (although if it was a J/B you could not break it down)
 
stix4sale said:
other than the phenolic rod that prathers sells
like this

reason being, i was told recently these kind of ferrule/tips are illegal in apa
true???
osageorangejumper6.jpg


Are you wondering what ferrule is best or what tip is best or what combo tip/ferrule is best? I have 1 break shaft with a cue ball ferrule and a G-10 tip and another one with a G-10 combo ferrule/tip made by the same cuemaker same butt same shaft taper and I cannot tell the difference in either one. I hear Ivorine 4 makes a good ferrule for break shafts but have not tried one out yet.
 
Hey Brent,
Try LBM Ferrule and any kind of tip. I finished working on 2 break and jumps that have LBM ferrules. One has Phenolic for a tip and the other has a Talisman Break tip. Both work great. If you need some, I have it in rod form. I could ship it out to you.
 
stix4sale said:
other than the phenolic rod that prathers sells
like this

reason being, i was told recently these kind of ferrule/tips are illegal in apa
true???
osageorangejumper6.jpg

I'm lazy. I jump, break and play with the same cue. Thin wall ivory ferrule and one of my tips.
 
so i have a question,,,is everyone playing better runout 9ball with these super duper ferrule/tips??? if the pros break and run 30% of the time, howz all the 10%ers out there doing:):)
 
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Brent...
Just thread your brown tip with a 5/16-18 stem...and thread it into an unbreakable ferrule thats bored & tapped for the same, such as Ivorine 4. Then it draws no looks, questions, or concerns. Looks like this...
 

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Varney Cues said:
Brent...
Just thread your brown tip with a 5/16-18 stem...and thread it into an unbreakable ferrule thats bored & tapped for the same, such as Ivorine 4. Then it draws no looks, questions, or concerns. Looks like this...
good idea, and sneaky. i like that. maybe it's just the local APA that has this rule about phenolic tips.
 
Only use the Ivorine 4 ferrule when doing this though...its 10x stronger than any ferrule you can buy. Trust me...;)
 
One piece

I heard yesterday that Mike Gulyassy (sp?) has finally got his patent on one piece ferrule/tip combos and noone can install those anymore except for him (and possibly his distributors). Is there any validity to these rumors? Thanks, Larry Hale
 
cueguy said:
I heard yesterday that Mike Gulyassy (sp?) has finally got his patent on one piece ferrule/tip combos and noone can install those anymore except for him (and possibly his distributors). Is there any validity to these rumors? Thanks, Larry Hale
Great, we'll just switch to linen-based phenolic instead of canvas.
IF that is true.
 
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