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Gsitz89

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Earlier this week I had posted a thread regarding a problem I had with my grip. I have been working on it and have made some progressions. But the question I have is, Is it worth it to fix something such as this or any fundamentals? Or should I just let my poor fundamentals ride if they work for me?
 
Earlier this week I had posted a thread regarding a problem I had with my grip. I have been working on it and have made some progressions. But the question I have is, Is it worth it to fix something such as this or any fundamentals? Or should I just let my poor fundamentals ride if they work for me?

if they worked for you.... you wouldn't be here asking questions...

so what you are really asking is .. should I improve my fundamentals and get better OR should I just accept my failure and cower like a child when the pool players show up?????


how do you fix your grip??? short answer don't grip so tight..

long answer .. ask a professional who should show up shortly
 
If your poor fundamentals are working then they are not poor.

Unless you are a threat to run multiple racks everytime you come to play then a change could be in order.

The question is how much does it matter to you and are you happy with the way you play?
 
Think "cradle" as opposed to "grip".

How important? The hands are the only parts of the body that touches the cue.

randyg
 
Earlier this week I had posted a thread regarding a problem I had with my grip. I have been working on it and have made some progressions. But the question I have is, Is it worth it to fix something such as this or any fundamentals? Or should I just let my poor fundamentals ride if they work for me?

Unless you're a touring Pro making a living off your game, good fundamentals will help you improve faster than just doing things on your own.

That's my opinion.


But hey it really is mind over matter.

If you don't mind how you play now, then it doesn't matter.
 
There are a lot of players that turn their hand inward when they stroke. Gabe Owen and Cliff Joyner are two that come to mind. This grip usually is used with the piston type stroke, a straight back and forth movement.

I migrated from a pendulum stroke to this type of stroke when I started to play more on the bigger tables. I had a lot of wrist action and wanted to try to tone it down a little. I found I started to point my thumb towards my body and my wrist became less movable.

With this change, I lost some ability to draw and spin the cueball. I traded that for a perceived better control of my stroke. After reaching a plateau and not being able to achieve a consistency in my game, I reverted back to pointing my thumb to the floor and using my wrist again.

The pendulum stroke immmediately returned and so did the stroke. The Larry Nevel draw is back and surprisingly, the cue ball control stayed with me. I should have continued with the good fundamentals and not caved into my critics who told me to do something different. They said I would develop bad habits with a loose wrist.

If you are able to make solid fundamentals work in your game, like a grip with the thumb pointing to the floor, do it. Changing is not easy, but how far do you want to take your game? We are all not cookie cutter teachable, but you got some good advice in your last thread from sage posters. Sticking with good fundamentals will always keep you improving instead of trying to fix one problem and creating another with poor mechanics.

Best,
Mike
 
Earlier this week I had posted a thread regarding a problem I had with my grip. I have been working on it and have made some progressions. But the question I have is, Is it worth it to fix something such as this or any fundamentals? Or should I just let my poor fundamentals ride if they work for me?

I would definitely work at improving any fundamental part of your game that isn't solid. I can remember a time when I played with a finger tip only grip a long, long time ago. After loosing some money in a game my opponent politely suggested that I might consider changing my grip, I was outraged (and very young) but in time I swallowed my pride and worked with a traditional grip. It was difficult in the beginning to adjust but after awhile I started making headway and eventually became a 10 rated player here in Arizona. Your fundamentals are important, don't underestimate them.

Bryan
 
Let your poor fundamentals ride if you are betting against me. :)

Otherwise, I would suggest you improve them. The only caveat to this statement is if you are absolutely killing the competition you come up against and plan on going pro soon ... if so, then chicken wing and death grip all you want. Oh, and don't bet against me!
 
A few months ago i had a lot tighter grip and i actually shot pretty decent pool, but i had a few quirks that i believed were holding me back. I have since switched to a looser grip and while I am still getting fully used to it, I will say that i have played some of the best pool since i started playing as a result.
 
personally I'd just break down and hire a teacher for a lesson. Let them decide whether or not your fundamentals need to change and if so then how.
 
Really???????????? many many many thank yous

Simple and to the point ! Enough said.

The hands are the only parts touching the cue. That's going to jump my game 10 balls. And NO! That's not enough said. What the hell is "cradle"? You can't just tell people to just cradle it. So, if you know what cradle action is and how to get it, I'll be at the edge of my seat eating popcorn.
 
I would say unless there is a physical reason not to you should always try to get the fundamentals right first.
 
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