Original GC1 found

deanoc said:
I like the old tables
i prefer them exact;ly the way they were
5 inch pockets
maybe 5.25

i wish i had a really nice Gold Crown with everything original
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This is the table you're looking for Dean, you can't get any more original than this table....it's the exact same table you use to play on, and with Championship Titan cloth....it'll play with the exact same speed as you were use to 50 years ago...LOL you can have it with the drop pockets or ball return....or both, call me 702-927-5689
 
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Early GC1

You could get these GC's with 1" slate or the thicker brunstone. I have had both GC1"s and GC2's with real slate. Got a junk sport king with brunstone. I also have a set of leg leveler inserts if you want to put threaded feet on your early GC1. PM me if interested
 
JSS said:
You could get these GC's with 1" slate or the thicker brunstone. I have had both GC1"s and GC2's with real slate. Got a junk sport king with brunstone. I also have a set of leg leveler inserts if you want to put threaded feet on your early GC1. PM me if interested
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Got any pictures of the ones with slate instead of Brunstone?
 
JSS said:
You could get these GC's with 1" slate or the thicker brunstone. I have had both GC1"s and GC2's with real slate. Got a junk sport king with brunstone. I also have a set of leg leveler inserts if you want to put threaded feet on your early GC1. PM me if interested
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You've had both, GC1 & 2....what's the difference between them?
 
Our GC1 4inch pockets

Great table you have there. Ernesto Dominguez set it up last November. It has the Artemis cushions and Simonis 860 HR. I stripped and repaintes legs and sides. I have the plastic faring but didn't put it yet. I also have the GC light.
 

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So all those tables I had in my poolroom in Bakersfield (circa 1972-78) had brunstone and not slate? Amazing that my guys Pat and Nate didn't know that. We always called it slate.
 
jay helfert said:
So all those tables I had in my poolroom in Bakersfield (circa 1972-78) had brunstone and not slate? Amazing that my guys Pat and Nate didn't know that. We always called it slate.
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That's because "slate" is a trained word to call the playing surface. Because slate is much harder than sand stone is, it has to be machine ground to flat, which leaves evidence of that in the surface grinding marks left on the surface and bottom sides of the slate. Brunstone has no grinding marks. When wiped down with a wet rag, or the surface of the slate scraped with a flat straight edge, it really exposes the grinding marks. Plaster, like you see in the pictures of that slate we're looking at on Brunstone gets kind of grainy looking like it's impregnated in the surface as its thinned out. On slate it looks more smooth, cloudy like as its thinned out.
 
jay helfert said:
So all those tables I had in my poolroom in Bakersfield (circa 1972-78) had brunstone and not slate? Amazing that my guys Pat and Nate didn't know that. We always called it slate.
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Someone in the past also built up the pocket shelf in the pockets to try and make them deeper shells, you can kind of see the bonds work in the corner pocket. The pocket shelf on GC1s, 2's & early 3's are all sloped towards the playing surface.
 
realkingcobra said:
I talked to Steve about that very subject. I suggested he sell this table to someone in original condition for $5,000...then use that money to buy another GC, beat up preferably, then rebuild the next one into what he really wants.
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My table is a 1971-1972 model GCI that came with Brunstone. The table contains all of the original parts that it was purchased with from the Brunswick dealer at that time. Maybe Brunswick did not call it Brunstone at that time but thats what is on my table.


I hope my GCI was not worth that kind of money before I stained it and had the pockets tightened and sub-rails modified for current Artemis cushions. I still have the original Monarch Super Speeds that came off my table. Mine was cleaner than this one, also white, was on its 2nd recover. I am the 3rd owner, 1st bought it in 71 or 72, local Brunswick dealer set it up in his home until the late 80's when 2nd owner bought and set it up in his home for his grand kids but they never used it. I bought it from 2nd owner in Dec of 2012.
 
fastone371 said:
My table is a 1971-1972 model GCI that came with Brunstone. The table contains all of the original parts that it was purchased with from the Brunswick dealer at that time. Maybe Brunswick did not call it Brunstone at that time but thats what is on my table.


I hope my GCI was not worth that kind of money before I stained it and had the pockets tightened and sub-rails modified for current Artemis cushions. I still have the original Monarch Super Speeds that came off my table. Mine was cleaner than this one, also white, was on its 2nd recover. I am the 3rd owner, 1st bought it in 71 or 72, local Brunswick dealer set it up in his home until the late 80's when 2nd owner bought and set it up in his home for his grand kids but they never used it. I bought it from 2nd owner in Dec of 2012.
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I agree. If that table can fetch 5k, I can only imagine what mine is worth. :) 1 recover, not a single blemish in the formica, 2 wall racks and 2 matching chair sets.

Nothing like a GC1!!
 
xianmacx said:
Jay, thanks for sharing story.

I know they serve no purpose and probably break very quickly in a commercial setting, but I think the plastic skirts are a must have for a fully complete gold crown 1.

Ian
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100% agree. Although, I'm not sure they are merely cosmetic. If properly attached with the provided anchor straps, I believe they would have to add some rigidity along the bottom edges of the aprons as the system fastens very securely.
As long as we're talking, I would say the one I found is the finest un-restored GCI I've ever seen. One private owner, one recover before my purchase. Not one blemish on the rails, every fastener and attaching item in perfect condition. We GCI guys love our tables!
 
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rikdee said:
100% agree. As long as we're talking, I would say the one I found is the finest un-restored GCI I've ever seen. One private owner, one recover before my purchase. Not one blemish on the rails, every fastener and attaching item in perfect condition. We GCI guys love our tables!
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share pics!! I would challenge though w mine being as good as it gets. :) same as you, one private owner, 1 cloth, perfect name plate and no blemish. Maybe we need a 9+ gc1 thread...
 
xianmacx said:
share pics!! I would challenge though w mine being as good as it gets. :) same as you, one private owner, 1 cloth, perfect name plate and no blemish. Maybe we need a 9+ gc1 thread...
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Mine is the finest I've every seen and I'm sure there are many others. I'm not computer literate enough to post pics but, if you'll PM me your email, I will attach a couple of photos.
 
rikdee said:
100% agree. As long as we're talking, I would say the one I found is the finest un-restored GCI I've ever seen. One private owner, one recover before my purchase. Not one blemish on the rails, every fastener and attaching item in perfect condition. We GCI guys love our tables!
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What most people fail to understand when it comes to GCs...is their equity. I'll give you an example, take a 1955 Corvette. You find you have a choice of 2 for sale, 1 was in use by a traveling salesman up until 1980 who didn't do anything to restore the car throughout all the years he's owned it, and the 2nd one is in a garage at an older ladies home and hasn't been driven since her husband joined the Army in 1957. Due to his duty stations he didn't take his car with him and he ended up in Vietnam in 1965 where he was killed unfortunately, so he only had a chance to drive his pride and joy 1500 miles, but made sure he stored his car on blocks, and mothballed for long time storage according to Chevrolet. But his wife just didn't have the heart to sell his car throughout the years, but now she's sick and her grandkids are taking care of her....and are moving her into one of their homes to take care of her....and in that process, selling off everything she don't need to help raise some money and lighten her life up a little.

Here's how the public judges the sale price....2 55 vets for sale, 1 is for $1600 the other $50,000. Public thinks the $1600 vet is wore out and in need of a lot of investment, but it's affordable, the second one can't be original at $50,000...it must be a restored 55 vet....therefore not worth the $50,000....because it's not original....because when the interested parties in buying the vet call to get some information on it....no one knows anything about the car....all they say is its for sale for $50,000....so they pass on the sale by telling themselves it's not worth that much anyway....good luck selling it.
 
rikdee said:
Mine is the finest I've every seen and I'm sure there are many others. I'm not computer literate enough to post pics but, if you'll PM me your email, I will attach a couple of photos.
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Email sent. Will post once I get them. Thanks for sharing.
 
Unfortunately the price of GC'S is driven by a worn out commercialy used market place by the selling price of worn out GCS dictating the sale price of mint condition original GCs.....that don't fall into that catagory.
 
realkingcobra said:
Unfortunately the price of GC'S is driven by a worn out commercialy used market place by the selling price of worn out GCS dictating the sale price of mint condition original GCs.....that don't fall into that catagory.
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Fortunately, I have no interest in the market value of my table because I would never consider selling it. Heck, it took a long time to find one like this. I'll leave the task of disposition to my heirs.
 
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