Pace of Play

derangedhermit said:
Sounds reasonable to me, although I'd prefer 30 instead of 24. Some televised tournaments do something very similar. I'm not sure of the time amounts they typically use, but it seems to be in that range.

You could easily implement this with chess clocks for non-refereed matches - two timers with two buttons to mark end of turn (one for each opponent). One opponent stopping his clock automatically starts the other one.
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I like the chess clock idea, although am not clear how it would work in practice. I guess it would have to be a 14.1 type game, potting against the clock.
 
Both sides of the story

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Originally Posted by Snapshot9
you guys have failed to recognize, and I have played for 50 years, is that not all players THINK at the same rate of speed. Some players can instantly recognize a situation and what the answer to it is within 5 seconds, and for other players they may come to the same conclusion, but it takes them 2 minutes to figure it out.

Plus, you have many players, especially ones with not the confidence in their game, that second guess themselves when they evaluate a situation. This becomes a time consuming task as well.

I remember watching Dick Lane years and years ago shooting a match at the Shooters Thanksgiving tournament here in Wichita. As good as he is, I could not, for the life of me, figure out why it took him so long to shoot. For even the simpliest of shots, he seemed to take an inordinate amount of time to shoot it, but he was meticulous in his playing.

Very well put. Nice to see people able to *respect* both sides of the issue.

KMRUNOUT
KMRUNOUT said:
Very well put. Nice to see people able to *respect* both sides of the issue.

KMRUNOUT
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Both sides of the story :-)

Side 1 - Take as long as you want shooting as long as I own the room & your paying table time.

Side 2 - 20 second time clock TWO 20 second extensions in one rack.
 
Slow play!

Pangit said:
Some folks deliberatey Slow play...maybe it frustrates the opponent? "Crap or get off the pot"...U took that long to "think" about the shoot...and that's the best U can do????

I play really fast... ala Rodney Morris...U either know what to do...or U don't. Stay down long...stay down wrong.. Trust your instincts...It's "daunting" to play someone that makes almost every shoot with position seemingly without a second thought.

U can often times break their will in warm-up's before you even play a game.
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Nothing much can be done about slow play. Daydream and shoot the breeze with others. Better yet, start playing one pocket which will surely help your patience. Running racks quickly is the pure way to play! Unfortunately we are not all at that level. My fast play heroes are Tony Dragos and The Rocket.
 
I am a careful player. 8 ball. It's chess to me. I'm not slow. Don't want to hurt feelings, but the order I choose for the runout is the most important thing in the game. Not always quickly apparent ...so I try to always walk around the table to get different vantage points.

Also, many mistakes are made on some of the most basic shots because the shot was rushed, and the shooter didn't give the shot he respect they needed to. Just because a shot is easy, doesn't make it less critical. I think everyone should slow down a little...plan more, see the field, focus more and play less on just FEEL.

Having said all that, ...SLOW PLAY...just to be slow, with no real reason, also pisses me off :-/
 
imo it's fine to be a slow player, but please don't spend 20 minutes on practice strokes and then end up miscueing (true story...)
 
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Employ a 15 sec rule per shot, with one extension per rack. It will not only improve TV viewership, it will Not become what Poker is/does.
 
dr9ball said:
We can't control our opponent. If you want to play fast then do so. Complaining will only frustrate you and possibly your opponent. If you don't like your opponents rate of play, don't play them again. Most of the time I hear people talking about slow players, they are complaining (I.e. making excuses) about why they (the faster player) lost.
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This is how I feel as well.
 
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