Parallax.... with changing dominance(long)

The Renfro

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I know eye dominance and head position has been a very common topic and starting a new thread may be considered unneeded but I have some observations that may help some people that are not cut from the normal cut of cloth....

Several years ago my eye doctor clued me in on a problem I had had for years and years and was unaware of... He handed me a magazine and asked me to read an article as quickly as I could... I immediately took my right pointer finger and stuck it to the page and started.... He laughed at that point and asked me if I knew why I usually read using my finger? I really had never noticed I did it and most other people didn't.... He explained I had convergence insufficiency.... The inability to cross my eyes in layman's terms... Turns out not everyone's eye work the same way.

I knew that I had taken eye dominance tests and that I had no specific dominance but I had no idea it was because of this issue. Basically my brain decided which eye to use and it did not have to do so in a consistent fashion.

In some ways there seemed to be advantages, I could shoot pool and if my brain was consistently using the eye I was sighting with I could cut the paint of the balls and would very seldom have aiming issues, I immediately jumped over players who had been at it for years and reached low A speed in about 3 years....

That was 18 years ago now and I still range from B to AA depending on how I am seeing the balls. Sadly the AA periods are showing up less often and staying around for less and less time these days. So after all this time I decided to actually do something different.

I decided to actually work on my game instead of just showing up and relying on nothing but talent and hand eye coordination. 2 years ago I started working on stroke fundamentals, rolling the cueball, adding more defense, and focused practice utilizing drills... About 6months into the process I started pushing thru plateaus and playing at higher levels. I would play flawless for a week or 2 and then fall back under the plateau and then stick my head back above it a few weeks later.

Last year right before I went to the Open I was playing well enough that I had it in my mind that it was close to time for me to test everything under the fires of a professional tournament... and then it hit... A major slump....

I checked everything I had worked on and nothing had changed in my stroke. I videotaped and I looked the same as when I was playing my best. As hard as I tried I just couldn't make shots. After some observation I realized I was missing everything to the left. Easy fix I figured and just started aiming right of the pocket. Balls started flying in again...

I showed up to the Music City Open in January and was starting to play a little better. I lost the lag and first game in my first match and proceeded to run 6 racks off my opponents dry break winning 11-2 when the dust cleared.

My 2nd match was against Max Eberle and the combination of pressure of playing a known pro and having to compensate in my aim proved lethal. I won the lag and ran the first rack and held the only lead I would have at 1 -0 at 4-4 I broke perfect had a straight in shot on the 1 and missed it dead left... Max closed me out 11-6....

3rd match was more of the same except that at around 4-4 with me and my opponent playing sub par I started making 3 balls off my break and managed to run out a few racks in a row a couple of times to win 11-6.

Next match I get Rob Saez on the TV table... Nerves are shot already so I didn't need the TV table or a known pro... Rob beats me 11-6... I have my chances but just cannot get it done... The only thing that I recall from the match was that I had a friend in the stands who was woofing at me at one point when I was getting ready to break. I broke made a ball and started running out while woofing back. I shot the perfect pattern get down to a 3 foot straight in shot on the 9 and miss the pocket 2 inches to the left after aiming right...

Something had to give... I had broke as close to perfect as was possible. Out of my 32 breaks I had scratched once and failed to make a ball once. On every other break I had made a ball and had a shot at the 1.... The break is supposed to be the crap shoot... Not shooting straight in shots...

My pride is stinging and I take a break... I start back again in March and in April they close the pool room so I am forced into a longer break.

I do have an 8' table at home and I start shooting only shots. 100s a night and each night is a crap shoot... I shoot no shots harder than a spot shot but my percentage makes can range from 70% to 90%... I am still missing to the left except for the nights where I am missing right, exactly where I am aiming....

A month or so ago I started thinking again about head position and dominance and decided to do some research on how vision actually works for people with convergence insufficiency and lack of dominance.

With insufficient convergence 2 different images are sent to the brain but there is in essence no parallax as both eyes cannot focus at one time on a specific point. Basically what the brain does due to this issue is that it disregards what it feels is the wrong image.

As long as there is enough of a difference between the proper image and the improper image the brain does a pretty good job. The problem is that if your head position varies or if the position puts both eyes in a good position your brain cannot make an accurate discard and process the information from both eyes. Since there is no true parallax it has to take a guess. Since it will guess in a consistent fashion it may guess consistently wrong or right.....

I am currently working on 2 different methods of helping my brain make the right guess.

1) I am rifle sighting the cue with my right eye with my left eye closed. I stay down and open the left eye at which point the shot no longer looks correct because of the attempted parallax. I can then raise my head and at some point the shot will look correct again. There are 2 issues with this technique. If I do not raise up completely on plane the shot may never look 100% and cue steering will occur. Different length shots require a different head heights.

2) By moving my head position closer to the cueball with the right eye rifle sighting, the difference in the information sent by the eyes is substantial enough that the brain will totally disregard the left eye even with both eyes open. There are also 2 main issues with this technique. On long reach shots where you have to stretch to reach the cueball it is difficult to get the eyes close enough to the cueball to ensure the brain disregards the left image. Staying that low and close to the cueball may cause stress to the back and neck and make the stroke feel confined.

I will post more observations as I get further along experimenting with both techniques.... Any thoughts on either technique would be appreciated... I may post video of both approaches... currently I have not recorder either of them but if there is interest I will do that this weekend....
 
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One technique that shooters use is to put a piece of scotch tape on your glasses over the center of vision of the eye you want to suppress (you do wear glasses?). This allows you to maintain peripheral vision, but kills the troublesome unwanted image.

You may want to check out "Answers to a pool player's prayers" by Richard Karnicki. It covers what your options are.
 
LOL I saw the tape trick and thought about finding some shooting glasses, maybe some of the high tech blue blocker type =) I recall from years ago when I did wear glasses that I was always looking over the lenses on long shots so I am not sure the tape trick will work for pool like it does in shooting.... I am considering 2 different strength contact lenses to simulate the same concept tho so thanks for the input....

I have the Karnicki book but it's out on loan and I may need to revisit the materials. I know Gene is working on adding sighting for 1eyed wonders in his Perfect Aim materials but had not had a chance to work with many players who only had one eye or had to only use one eye because of convergence issues last I spoke to him.....

Paging GENO!!!!!!
 
I feel for ya Renfro, that sounds like a real challenge.

At a recent eye doc visit for me, it was discovered that I'm at a point where my left eye can be corrected better than my right - which is apparently a bit unusual since I'm right-eye dominant :/
 
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The Renfro said:
LOL I saw the tape trick and thought about finding some shooting glasses, maybe some of the high tech blue blocker type =) I recall from years ago when I did wear glasses that I was always looking over the lenses on long shots so I am not sure the tape trick will work for pool like it does in shooting.... I am considering 2 different strength contact lenses to simulate the same concept tho so thanks for the input....

I have the Karnicki book but it's out on loan and I may need to revisit the materials. I know Gene is working on adding sighting for 1eyed wonders in his Perfect Aim materials but had not had a chance to work with many players who only had one eye or had to only use one eye because of convergence issues last I spoke to him.....

Paging GENO!!!!!!
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Hi there,

Have we worked together yet on anything?

I have worked with about 25 one eyed wonders and I have a real good idea what they are seeing. There are 2 types though.

The ones that see everything with only one eye and some that see the straighter shots with one eye and the angle shots like the rest of us mere mortals with the exception that the dominant eye is alot more powerful.

If you could give me a call it would be great to work with you some. I'm always trying to learn more myself about how the eyes work and players with your problem seem to be in almost 2 catagories.

Call me anytime tomorrow at 715-563-8712.

Talk to you soon. If you can be by a table we can work on some stuff right away.
 
The Renfro...Tap, tap, tap! Excellent thread! One thing you may wish to do is work with Randyg or I on learning some consistent PEP (personal eye patterns), when you come to the Open in Oct. We have both worked with pro players on this specific issue, and it has helped all of them to achieve a higher level of consistency. Not saying you cannot figure it out on your own, and you have discovered some interesting facts about your own vision already...but a consistent PEP is one way for a player with an already accurate and repeatable process, to increase their 'game speed', enough to give you an 'edge' over players who don't use it. Very few instructors understand it, and fewer yet know how to effectively teach it to someone. It can help any ability player...but is of wholesale benefit to an expert!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

The Renfro said:
I know eye dominance and head position has been a very common topic and starting a new thread may be considered unneeded but I have some observations that may help some people that are not cut from the normal cut of cloth....

Several years ago my eye doctor clued me in on a problem I had had for years and years and was unaware of... He handed me a magazine and asked me to read an article as quickly as I could... I immediately took my right pointer finger and stuck it to the page and started.... He laughed at that point and asked me if I knew why I usually read using my finger? I really had never noticed I did it and most other people didn't.... He explained I had convergence insufficiency.... The inability to cross my eyes in layman's terms... Turns out not everyone's eye work the same way.

I knew that I had taken eye dominance tests and that I had no specific dominance but I had no idea it was because of this issue. Basically my brain decided which eye to use and it did not have to do so in a consistent fashion.

In some ways there seemed to be advantages, I could shoot pool and if my brain was consistently using the eye I was sighting with I could cut the paint of the balls and would very seldom have aiming issues, I immediately jumped over players who had been at it for years and reached low A speed in about 3 years....

That was 18 years ago now and I still range from B to AA depending on how I am seeing the balls. Sadly the AA periods are showing up less often and staying around for less and less time these days. So after all this time I decided to actually do something different.

I decided to actually work on my game instead of just showing up and relying on nothing but talent and hand eye coordination. 2 years ago I started working on stroke fundamentals, rolling the cueball, adding more defense, and focused practice utilizing drills... About 6months into the process I started pushing thru plateaus and playing at higher levels. I would play flawless for a week or 2 and then fall back under the plateau and then stick my head back above it a few weeks later.

Last year right before I went to the Open I was playing well enough that I had it in my mind that it was close to time for me to test everything under the fires of a professional tournament... and then it hit... A major slump....

I checked everything I had worked on and nothing had changed in my stroke. I videotaped and I looked the same as when I was playing my best. As hard as I tried I just couldn't make shots. After some observation I realized I was missing everything to the left. Easy fix I figured and just started aiming right of the pocket. Balls started flying in again...

I showed up to the Music City Open in January and was starting to play a little better. I lost the lag and first game in my first match and proceeded to run 6 racks off my opponents dry break winning 11-2 when the dust cleared.

My 2nd match was against Max Eberle and the combination of pressure of playing a known pro and having to compensate in my aim proved lethal. I won the lag and ran the first rack and held the only lead I would have at 1 -0 at 4-4 I broke perfect had a straight in shot on the 1 and missed it dead left... Max closed me out 11-6....

3rd match was more of the same except that at around 4-4 with me and my opponent playing sub par I started making 3 balls off my break and managed to run out a few racks in a row a couple of times to win 11-6.

Next match I get Rob Saez on the TV table... Nerves are shot already so I didn't need the TV table or a known pro... Rob beats me 11-6... I have my chances but just cannot get it done... The only thing that I recall from the match was that I had a friend in the stands who was woofing at me at one point when I was getting ready to break. I broke made a ball and started running out while woofing back. I shot the perfect pattern get down to a 3 foot straight in shot on the 9 and miss the pocket 2 inches to the left after aiming right...

Something had to give... I had broke as close to perfect as was possible. Out of my 32 breaks I had scratched once and failed to make a ball once. On every other break I had made a ball and had a shot at the 1.... The break is supposed to be the crap shoot... Not shooting straight in shots...

My pride is stinging and I take a break... I start back again in March and in April they close the pool room so I am forced into a longer break.

I do have an 8' table at home and I start shooting only shots. 100s a night and each night is a crap shoot... I shoot no shots harder than a spot shot but my percentage makes can range from 70% to 90%... I am still missing to the left except for the nights where I am missing right, exactly where I am aiming....

A month or so ago I started thinking again about head position and dominance and decided to do some research on how vision actually works for people with convergence insufficiency and lack of dominance.

With insufficient convergence 2 different images are sent to the brain but there is in essence no parallax as both eyes cannot focus at one time on a specific point. Basically what the brain does due to this issue is that it disregards what it feels is the wrong image.

As long as there is enough of a difference between the proper image and the improper image the brain does a pretty good job. The problem is that if your head position varies or if the position puts both eyes in a good position your brain cannot make an accurate discard and process the information from both eyes. Since there is no true parallax it has to take a guess. Since it will guess in a consistent fashion it may guess consistently wrong or right.....

I am currently working on 2 different methods of helping my brain make the right guess.

1) I am rifle sighting the cue with my right eye with my left eye closed. I stay down and open the left eye at which point the shot no longer looks correct because of the attempted parallax. I can then raise my head and at some point the shot will look correct again. There are 2 issues with this technique. If I do not raise up completely on plane the shot may never look 100% and cue steering will occur. Different length shots require a different head heights.

2) By moving my head position closer to the cueball with the right eye rifle sighting, the difference in the information sent by the eyes is substantial enough that the brain will totally disregard the left eye even with both eyes open. There are also 2 main issues with this technique. On long reach shots where you have to stretch to reach the cueball it is difficult to get the eyes close enough to the cueball to ensure the brain disregards the left image. Staying that low and close to the cueball may cause stress to the back and neck and make the stroke feel confined.

I will post more observations as I get further along experimenting with both techniques.... Any thoughts on either technique would be appreciated... I may post video of both approaches... currently I have not recorder either of them but if there is interest I will do that this weekend....
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Great thread... I have always thought the way i aimed in pool was weird as i see two cueballs. So in order for me to see center cueball i have to look to the left or to the right as the left cueball is my right eye viewing it and vice versa. If im looking at the right cueball i can also see the right edge of the cueball which is my right eye viewing the edge and left eye viewing the center, complicated well not really so as its the way ive been playing since i started.

Kinda cool in a way as i can use either eye for left or right cuts. Would like to hear more on your head positions as i have tried everything i could think of
 
Renfro:

Force a slightly parallax view on every shot. Eliminate the dominance variable.

Try to approach the shot as a circle, with the OB being the center of rotation and the CB being the edge.

For all thicker shots, come into the CB from a position on the circle that is FAR outside of the shot. Slowly rotate around the OB and come into the CB until the CB is just barely addressable with your technique.

For thinner shots and back-cuts, do the opposite. Start from a position far to the inside of the shot and rotate around the OB until the CB is barely addressable.

This will force your eyes into a "dominant position" for each and every shot--- even straight in. I've had bad dominance issues just as you and I've always found that the best way to identify a line is to look across it slightly.

Gene taught me to move to the point where you "lose" the shot and then barely come in a bit--- that's always been the perfect position for me and I've kept that move ever since. That eliminates 1/2 the eye errors right out of the gate. You're always facing the shot from the correct direction, regardless of your dominance.

Dave
 
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Renfro:

Force a slightly parallax view on every shot. Eliminate the dominance variable.

Try to approach the shot as a circle, with the OB being the center of rotation and the CB being the edge.

For all thicker shots, come into the CB from a position on the circle that is FAR outside of the shot. Slowly rotate around the OB and come into the CB until the CB is just barely addressable with your technique.

For thinner shots and back-cuts, do the opposite. Start from a position far to the inside of the shot and rotate around the OB until the CB is barely addressable.

This will force your eyes into a "dominant position" for each and every shot--- even straight in. I've had bad dominance issues just as you and I've always found that the best way to identify a line is to look across it slightly.

Gene taught me to move to the point where you "lose" the shot and then barely come in a bit--- that's always been the perfect position for me and I've kept that move ever since. That eliminates 1/2 the eye errors right out of the gate. You're always facing the shot from the correct direction, regardless of your dominance.

Dave
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Dave,

Good post.

Best,
Mike
 
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Spiderwebcomm... That's a different approach than I have thought about... Circling into the direction of the shot and easing in until I pick up the line... I can see where that might work... I was always going counter clockwise at one point around the table to consistently pick up the angle but I dropped that to the wayside at some point. Not sure why....

I will definitely call Geno tomorrow as we have only been back and forth on the threads and his offer is appreciated.... Thanks Geno...

Scott... I will get with you before the Open and we will set up some time.... I might be able to get the TV table cameras left on during dinner break at some point....
 
Thanks Geno!!!!!

Geno took the time to work with me on the phone tonight... We spent 43 minutes talking about aiming and a few other topics. I can't be sure how much of the time was strictly aiming but I would think maybe 15 minutes of getting down on shots and talking about what was happening with the vision center is probably a good guess...

I have spent the last several hours processing what he showed me and using the information he gave me. He ran me thru a crash course on Perfect Aim with me choosing to use my right eye as dominant and explained that everything we went thru would work for left eye dominance if I just reversed what we worked on....

I have to say I am shocked. I switched eyes after an hour and put my left eye into the dominant position as he taught me and I started seeing an immediate improvement. I have taken numerous dominance tests and all of them either came up as right eye or no strong dominance in either eye.

I have not consciously ever used my left eye for sighting and it makes me wonder if MY OWN INCORRECT CHOICE of which eye to use has not been a key factor in many of my slumps, periods of mediocre play and missed balls out of the blue when I have been playing well.....

This would explain why the harder I have tried to "work" my way out of a slump the worse I have made things at times. It would also explain why fast and loose has been the way I have always played my best. If I tried to take my time and bear down and aim I never seemed to improve my odds on pulling off a shot. I always just chalked it up to analysis paralysis and quit trying to slow things down...

I know, I know... it's only been a few hours and the placebo effect could be in full swing right now... I'll post more as I continue to work with what Geno showed me.... Hopefully I won't be back to my 2 techniques from the original post when it's all over.... I doubt it.. Perfect Aim makes Perfect sense sooo far....

Thanks Geno... Just 2 of the things you talked me thru leave me shaking my head wondering how I could have missed figuring them out on my own after 20 years of playing........
 
Renfro

If you're going to learn PEP from Scott give yourself 30 days to get it internalized.

Spidey's suggestion falls in line with what I was taught many years ago. Start every shot with half ball then adjust. Spidey seems to take that lesson to the next level.

Lastly a boring drill: The stop shot on straight in's. Assuming your stroke is right, if the CB moves left or right, even a little you're not seeing the true line.

By the way Scotts lesson on Pep was huge for me. One of the top 5 things I can point to that made a significant positive effect single handedly.
 
Renfro,

I just wanted to say that I am impressed with the lengths you have gone to and are willing to go to in order to improve your game. I wish you the best of luck in overcoming the problems you described.:smile:
 
The Renfro said:
Geno took the time to work with me on the phone tonight... We spent 43 minutes talking about aiming and a few other topics. I can't be sure how much of the time was strictly aiming but I would think maybe 15 minutes of getting down on shots and talking about what was happening with the vision center is probably a good guess...

I have spent the last several hours processing what he showed me and using the information he gave me. He ran me thru a crash course on Perfect Aim with me choosing to use my right eye as dominant and explained that everything we went thru would work for left eye dominance if I just reversed what we worked on....

I have to say I am shocked. I switched eyes after an hour and put my left eye into the dominant position as he taught me and I started seeing an immediate improvement. I have taken numerous dominance tests and all of them either came up as right eye or no strong dominance in either eye.

I have not consciously ever used my left eye for sighting and it makes me wonder if MY OWN INCORRECT CHOICE of which eye to use has not been a key factor in many of my slumps, periods of mediocre play and missed balls out of the blue when I have been playing well.....

This would explain why the harder I have tried to "work" my way out of a slump the worse I have made things at times. It would also explain why fast and loose has been the way I have always played my best. If I tried to take my time and bear down and aim I never seemed to improve my odds on pulling off a shot. I always just chalked it up to analysis paralysis and quit trying to slow things down...

I know, I know... it's only been a few hours and the placebo effect could be in full swing right now... I'll post more as I continue to work with what Geno showed me.... Hopefully I won't be back to my 2 techniques from the original post when it's all over.... I doubt it.. Perfect Aim makes Perfect sense sooo far....

Thanks Geno... Just 2 of the things you talked me thru leave me shaking my head wondering how I could have missed figuring them out on my own after 20 years of playing........
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I also called Geno last about the eye dominance thing and WOW. I mean I only had the oppportunity to play about 2 hours with his advices and for once I feel like I'll break barriers soon. I'm still under the effect of 'lack of practice' because I took a few months off but its finally coming back.

Thanks Geno +1 and Blackjack for their help.
 
Strange but not uncommon...........

The Renfro said:
Geno took the time to work with me on the phone tonight... We spent 43 minutes talking about aiming and a few other topics. I can't be sure how much of the time was strictly aiming but I would think maybe 15 minutes of getting down on shots and talking about what was happening with the vision center is probably a good guess...

I have spent the last several hours processing what he showed me and using the information he gave me. He ran me thru a crash course on Perfect Aim with me choosing to use my right eye as dominant and explained that everything we went thru would work for left eye dominance if I just reversed what we worked on....

I have to say I am shocked. I switched eyes after an hour and put my left eye into the dominant position as he taught me and I started seeing an immediate improvement. I have taken numerous dominance tests and all of them either came up as right eye or no strong dominance in either eye.

I have not consciously ever used my left eye for sighting and it makes me wonder if MY OWN INCORRECT CHOICE of which eye to use has not been a key factor in many of my slumps, periods of mediocre play and missed balls out of the blue when I have been playing well.....

This would explain why the harder I have tried to "work" my way out of a slump the worse I have made things at times. It would also explain why fast and loose has been the way I have always played my best. If I tried to take my time and bear down and aim I never seemed to improve my odds on pulling off a shot. I always just chalked it up to analysis paralysis and quit trying to slow things down...

I know, I know... it's only been a few hours and the placebo effect could be in full swing right now... I'll post more as I continue to work with what Geno showed me.... Hopefully I won't be back to my 2 techniques from the original post when it's all over.... I doubt it.. Perfect Aim makes Perfect sense sooo far....

Thanks Geno... Just 2 of the things you talked me thru leave me shaking my head wondering how I could have missed figuring them out on my own after 20 years of playing........
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Hi there Renfro,

It was fun working with someone of your caliber and knowledge. I never know what will transend from each player but if you are actually left eye dominant when you play pool this is huge.

I have found that 50% of the players that are right eye dominant when they take all the eye dominance test turn out to be left eye dominant when they get down to shoot a pool shot. This 50% comes from 100's of lessons, not some number I pulled out of a hat.

Our own Spidey here on AZ had no idea he was left eye dominant. He passed all the tests saying he was righty. It was not until he came to Minneapolis on business and we worked some together that I saw what was going on. He was almost in disbelief. it was like how could this be.
Becasuse if you don't know for sure which eye is dominant you can't adjust in the most correct way to make your sighting better, in fact you are actually making it worse.

This is one of the reasons that I show a player how to make the right eye dominant and then the left eye dominant. You never know when the player if forcing the wrong eye to be dominant. this way the player can make a choice for themselves because they are the only ones that can see the difference with their own eyes. Kind of like when you go to the eye doctor and he says , does this look better or does this look better.

Which ever way looks better for you is your pool shpooting dominant eye.

And it is usually the right handed players that are left eye dominant that have problems with it. The right hand is on the right side and so is the cue. Everything is on the right side. It almost feels awkward to get the left eye over there. But once you understand and see how well the shot looks there is no going back. You can just see what you are shooting at. It just looks like it will go.

If you are left eye dominant my friend you have just entered one of the most exciting periods of pool in your life. If you thought you were addicted to this game before just wait.

I'm assuming your game should go up a ball for sure overall. Mixing what used to be the good, the bad, and the ugly.

A little tip you might try using, when you get down on the shot have the feeling that tou are using the left eye only. This will help you get down in this most correct position naturally.

But the biggest part here is if you are left eye dominant you need to be there also in the preshot. Otherwise you are crossing over on the way down. much better if you start out lefty and stay there all the way.

You'll figure it out and probably already have.

Main thing is you have the ball now and can run with it.

Good luck. Let me know when you win the big ones.

Thanks again Geno..........
 
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Very interesting thread. I quit playing for many years for several reasons, one of them being that I did not see as well as I used to, mainly due to wearing bifocals. With bifocals and wearing glasses there was an area on the table that was never in focus and nothing I could do about it.
Later, I noticed that my vision was shifting from one eye dominant to the other at random times. When this happened, I could and would miss a straight in shot by 2 inches even when the ball was only a foot from the hole.
Sometimes I would voice this to my opponent and they would only laugh and think that was a lame excuse. I started shooting APA about a year ago and when this would happen I was always accused of sandbagging. It was very embarassing and no one ever believed me when I stated what the problem was.
This happened to me in the finals of the district qualifer for the APA nationals - the guy beat me bad because I could not make even an easy shot. After that match I quit again and haven't played since (other factors were involved also). If I do decide to start playing again, I will contact one or several of the experts in this post and see if that will fix my problem.
 
Hi there Jcat.Please start again but with knowledge

Jcat said:
Very interesting thread. I quit playing for many years for several reasons, one of them being that I did not see as well as I used to, mainly due to wearing bifocals. With bifocals and wearing glasses there was an area on the table that was never in focus and nothing I could do about it.
Later, I noticed that my vision was shifting from one eye dominant to the other at random times. When this happened, I could and would miss a straight in shot by 2 inches even when the ball was only a foot from the hole.
Sometimes I would voice this to my opponent and they would only laugh and think that was a lame excuse. I started shooting APA about a year ago and when this would happen I was always accused of sandbagging. It was very embarassing and no one ever believed me when I stated what the problem was.
This happened to me in the finals of the district qualifer for the APA nationals - the guy beat me bad because I could not make even an easy shot. After that match I quit again and haven't played since (other factors were involved also). If I do decide to start playing again, I will contact one or several of the experts in this post and see if that will fix my problem.
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Hi there Jcat,

What you described is why many players quit. It's really hard to play pretty good and then in one turn suck really bad.

This is one reason players that are starting quit before they even get started because the shots just seem impossible to make. If they knew how to do this who knows where they would be with their game.

I give alot of credit to the players that struggle with their game and keep on keep'in on. I feel very fortuanate to have the answer to why they are having so much trouble.

If it was easy to figure out on your own everyone would know and teach what I teach but it's not.

I've been doing this on the forum for about 2 years now. trying to help with what I can with the few players I talk to.

If everyone at all skill levels knew what they were going to learn before I showed them everyone would want a lesson. My claim to cutting anyones misses in half almost right away is a very valid claim and one I guarantee.

Please call me and I will run you through my Perfect Aim lesson over the phone. I am very successful at doing this and with great results. It's very difficult to learn this from scratch but once I point out the way it becomes fairly easy.

You will want to start playing once you learn and understand this because you will be more successful. The game will be more fun because you will see what you are shooting correctly and when it doesn't look good you will know why and how to correct it.

There is no charge for this. Just trying to help.

I showed this to Rodney (the Rocket) Morris 7/6/09 at Bull Shooters.
He signed my book.

I Saw the Light 7/6/09 Rodney Morris.

He even told me he wanted to sell the video on his website. And made the statement to me that he doesn't sell junk on his website.

I plan on contacting Rodney when I get the new one completed.

Just think about it. If Rodney thought it was valuable info and the 1000's of others that have learned it think so also it must and is pretty good info.

Let me help you. it doesn't even matter if you havn't been playing. I showed this to my mother on the kitchen table and she could see the difference. She's 80 years old. She has never played pool.

Give me a call. Just be by a pool table and I will totally blow your mind. What you will see will change the way you aim forever.

looking forward to working with you. 715-563-8712 Geno......
 
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