PERFECT AIM REVIEW AND DISCUSSIONS BY AZers, for AZers

[Solartje]

I think the best way to show people what genes “middle” is. And the easiest way to show how everyone’s eyes work.
Every house should have a cutting board. I want u to hold the cutting board an arms length in front of yourself. Looking at the board’s edge vertical. Now site down the board like you’re looking down your shaft aiming. Now move your head a little to the left then a little to your right. U will notice when each side of the board appears. U only need to move your head about 1/8th of an inch to each side. U really can’t see both sides of the board at the same time. And if u can, it’s not a very clear picture. Moving your head 1’8th of an inch to one side or the other will give u that clear picture.

I’m guessing some people are like 90% right eye dominant. Or like, 60% left eye dominant. And someone with no dominant eye, 50% each side. There middle would be exactly in the middle of both eyes. Just a wild guess. I could be completely wrong.

i tried that method and i found this

if i move my head to the left, to left edge becomes clearer, and my left eye is dominant, when i move to the right, the right edge becomes clearer, and my right eye is dominant, BUT this only lasts a small time.. sometimes the edge disapears completly, then comes back. I can't get a fixed image.


if i dont move my head, but focus with my eyes on each edge, i see the left edge with my left eye dominant, and i see the right edge with my right eye dominant.... (most of the times, but it can change )

everything to my left is clear, everything to my right is clear, everything in the middle is not. (doubled/blurred vision). (probably also because me left eye cant see the things to my right, because my nose is in between....)

this picture is what i see when i dont move my head. (grey arey is blurry), i can "chose" between each image without moving my head. the picture beneath would be the most helpfull, but its very hard to get that image fixe. If i do it, of the 3 views, its the one where I can almost 90% not see the blurry part. so it gives the clearest image, but it takes alot of -exercise to get there.




What i know for 100% sure, is that when i see double, the LEFT image is the one seen by my RIGHT eye, and that i have to wait untill i see the left image clear... once i see the left one clear, I align my righteye-shaft-center of left cb - center of ghostball (and ignore all the rest). I dont use overlapping or fractional aiming, so i prefere to use center of balls rather then edges...

i supose i could do the same thing for the left eye. align lefteye-shaft-rightcb-ghost ball.

how about with the 3th view. do I align it perfectly in between my eyes aka align centereye-shaft-middleCB-ghost ball?


PS: RECTIFICATION: i had posted that looking to the far right, and then start looking to the center, forces the right eye dominance, thats was wrong.
when looking at the far right, the left eye is blocked by your nose, so in face the image you are seeing is only made by one eye, BUT as soon as you look to the center , both eyes see the image again, and the brain has free-play on the eye he wants dominant.

Still !! im doing something with my eyes i wasn't doing before thats helping me, and i just need to find out what it is.

 

[Solartje]

HI THERE,

THIS COULD BE THE REASON THAT SOME PLAYERS SHOOT WITH ONLY ONE EYE. EVEN THOUGH BOTH EYES ARE OPEN. I DIDN'T KNOW WHY BUT WHEN THESE PLAYERS FOUND THIS OUT THEIR AIMING REALLY IMPROVED WHEN THEY MOVED OVER WITH ONLY THE ONE EYE.

IF THIS IS THE PROBLEM THERE IS NO FIX THAT I HAVE SEEN EXCEPT THE ONE EYED SHOOTING.

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Geno, what do you mean with shooting with only one eye, even though both eyes are open. how do you practically do this?

I'd love to call you, but there is no way i can do this....
do you have facebook, msn, or some chatting thing, that we can use?

 

[JoeyA]

Geno, what do you mean with shooting with only one eye, even though both eyes are open. how do you practically do this?

I'd love to call you, but there is no way i can do this....
do you have facebook, msn, or some chatting thing, that we can use?

Gene has recently had surgery on one of his shoulders and has to type with one hand. Instant messenger or other "text chatting" may be difficult for him.

When he heals up, this may be a good avenue for you.
JoeyA

 

[Solartje]

Gene has recently had surgery on one of his shoulders and has to type with one hand. Instant messenger or other "text chatting" may be difficult for him.

When he heals up, this may be a good avenue for you.
JoeyA

right joeyA, forgot about that.

i tried to contact the other person that had lessons from geno that is living in belgium, but no response... im sure it would be good to start with him (as calling geno is not an option) and see how to go from there.

As my eyes are special , 99% of the things i read about sightning dont aply to me, but the more i understand (and geno's method looks like something i want to understand) the more i can addapt it to my own method.

I have my thread ready to search a solution for the ambi's... feel free to post there as much info / idea's / sighting techniques. i need this problem to be resolved to play my full speed, and i wont stop untill i've found it !

is there someone that has been working with geno that could take some time to chat about it, so i can start doing some testing myself?

 

[JoeyA]

is there someone that has been working with geno that could take some time to chat about it, so i can start doing some testing myself?

Solly, I think that you should talk with Geno himself. I think learning something like this second hand, especially with your unique situation, is something that you should avoid. A piece left out here and there can lead to a failed effort. Just my $.02.

JoeyA

 

[genomachino]

hi there,

right joeyA, forgot about that.

i tried to contact the other person that had lessons from geno that is living in belgium, but no response... im sure it would be good to start with him (as calling geno is not an option) and see how to go from there.

As my eyes are special , 99% of the things i read about sightning dont aply to me, but the more i understand (and geno's method looks like something i want to understand) the more i can addapt it to my own method.

I have my thread ready to search a solution for the ambi's... feel free to post there as much info / idea's / sighting techniques. i need this problem to be resolved to play my full speed, and i wont stop untill i've found it !

is there someone that has been working with geno that could take some time to chat about it, so i can start doing some testing myself?

joey is right,

THERE ARE 100'S OF PLAYERS THAT KNOW BITS AND PIECES OF PERFECT AIM AND THINK THEY KNOW IT BUT UNLESS YOU GOT THE WHOLE PICTURE SOMETIMES IT JUST LEADS TO MORE CONFUSION.

AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE IN THE BIGGINNING WITH THESE BALLS BEING THE SIZE THEY ARE. THE POOL BALLS COULD NOT BE AT A WORSE SIZE FOR CREATING OPTICAL ILLUSIONS WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THEM.THIS IS WHY I USE THE BIGGER BALLS NOW TO TEACH PERFECT AIM AND HOW IT WORKS. I HAVE PLAYERS COMING OUT OF THE WOODWORK THAT WERE STRUGGLING TO UNSERSTAND IT ONLY TO FIND OUT WHEN THEY CALL ON THE FREE PHONE LESSON THAT IT TOTALLY CLEARS IT UP FOR THEM.

ON A CLOSE 6" SHOT CUTTING A BALL IF YOU ARE DOWN REAL LOW AND YOU JUST STAY THERE AND LOOK FOR AWHILE YOU CAN ALMOST GO CROSSEYED. THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF SHOTS LIKE THIS.

I DID A LITTLE EXPERIMENT AT SHOOTERS IN BURNSVILLE JUST BEFORE A LITTLE TOURNAMENT. I FORCED MY RIGHT EYE TO BE MY DOMINENT EYE. IN MY PERFECT AIM PHONE LESSON I TEACH PLAYERS HOW TO DO THIS SO THEY CAN IDENTIFY WHERE NOT TO HAVE THE EYES. WHEN I DID THIS FOR ABOUT A HALF HOUR I FOUND THAT WHEN I TRIED TO SHOT WITH MY DOMINENT EYE THAT I WAS HAVING TROUBLE DRIFTING INTO THE MIDDLE BETWEEN THE TWO EYES. I WAS DRIFTING TOWARDS MY RIGHT EYE BEING DOMINENT AND THAT WILL TOTALLY MESS THINGS UP WITH YOUR AIMING.

THIS IS WHAT I LATER FIGURED OUT IS AIMING SUICIDE. I KIND OF LOST MY ABILITY TO USE PERFECT AIM AND KEEP MY EYES IN THE PROPER POSITION. I FELT LIKE THEY WERE OK BUT THE EYES WERE NOT.

I LOST IN THE TOURNAMENT AND IT TOOK ME A FEW HOURS TO FOCUS REAL HARD KNOWING WHICH WAY I HAD TO HAVE THE EYES TO START POCKETING THE BALLS CONSISTENTLY AGAIN. SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO CORRECT IT WOULD JUST BE LOST FOR THE REST OF THE NIGHT.

I DID THIS AGAIN ONE NIGHT. AFTER DOING THIS FOR ABOUT AN HOUR MY EYE ALIGNMENT AGAIN WAS SCREWED UP FOR MOST OF THE NIGHT.

KIND OF LIKE WHEN YOU WERE A KID AND YOU WERE CROSSING YOUR EYES AND YOUR MOTHER WOULD SAY DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE OR YOUR EYES WILL STAY LIKE THAT. THERE IS KIND OF A TRUTH TO THAT STATEMENT.

THIS IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH A PLAYER THAT JUST KIND OF SEEMS TO MELT DOWN SOMETIMES. HE HAS LOOKED AT SOME SHOTS SO BAD THAT IT HAS JUST GOT HIS EYES LOOKING EVERY WHICH WAY AND STARTS NOT BEING ABLE TO NATURALLY SEE WHAT HE WAS SEEING BEFORE THIS HAPPENED.

WHEN I'M GIVING A LESSON AND SHOW HOW TO MAKE THE OTHER EYE DOMINENT I TRY NOT TO HAVE THE [PLAYER GET IN THIS POSITION FOR TOO LONG OR PRETTY SOON HE CAN'T MAKE A BALL EITHER.

I HAVE TRIED THIS WITH ABOUT 4 PLAYERS IN MY HOME TOWN HERE AND WITH THE SAME RESULTS. THEY WERE HELPLESS FOR AWHILE. THEY HAD TEMPORARILY LOST THE ABILITY TO NATURALLY FOCUS THE PROPER EYE IN THE PROPER POSITION TO SEE THE SHOT CORRECTLY. AND YOUR EYE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE OFF VERY MUCH. IT CAN BE OFF SO SLIGHTLY THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL GO BUT IT PROBABLY WON'T.

I'M THINKING WE ALL KIND OF HAVE THE PROBLEM YOU SPEAK OF TO A CERTAIN DEGREE. ONLY YOURS IS MAYBE A LITTLE MORE DELICATE. BY KNOWING WHICH WAY YOU NEED TO BE MAYBE YOU COULD STOP THE EYES FROM GETTING IN THE WRONG POSITION BECAUSE THIS WILL JUST MAKE IT WORSE AS YOU CONTINUE TO GO BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN EYES.

I'M WILLING TO TRY AND HELP YOU. I'M KIND OF SLOW TYPING RIGHT NOW. I HAVE MAGIC JACK. THEY HAVE SOME SPECIAL PRICES TO EUROPE. MAYBE I'LL BUY 20.00 OF THERE LONG DISTANCE. I THINK THAT MIGHT GET US AN HOUR OF PHONE TIME.

THIS WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO WORK ON THIS ON THE PHONE.

LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. TALK TO YOU LATER GENO.........

I'LL FOOT THE BILL ON THE PHONE TIME.

 

[genomachino]

Great advice my friend

Solly, I think that you should talk with Geno himself. I think learning something like this second hand, especially with your unique situation, is something that you should avoid. A piece left out here and there can lead to a failed effort. Just my $.02.

JoeyA

I'M GOING TO TRY AND WORK WITH SOLLY ONE STEP AT A TIME. HE KNOWS MORE ABOUT HIS EYES THAN MOST PLAYERS. I'M REALLY OPTOMISTIC THAT I CAN HELP HIM.

AND I'M KIND OF THINKING THAT AS WE AGE THAT THIS IS KIND OF THE PROBLEM THAT WE ALL KIND OF HAVE. THE ABILITY TO KEEP THE EYES WHERE THEY NEED TO BE NATURALLY. BY DRIFTING AWAY FROM THE DOMINANT EYE BEING IN THE RIGHT PLACE. THUS THE NON DOMINANT EYE IS GETTING TOO MUCH IN THE PICTURE.

THIS MIGHT BE WHY PERFECT AIM HAS REALLY HELPED MANY OF US OLDER PLAYER REVIVE OUR GAMES AND KEEP THEM THERE.

THE NATURAL ABILITY TO HAVE THE EYES IN THE RIGHT PLACE THAT WE LOST OR NEVER HAD CAN BE REPLACED BY KNOWING WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.

OTHER PLAYERS THAT PLAY AT A LOWER SPEED NEVER DID HAVE THE EYES IN THE RIGHT PLACE AND THIS IS WHY IT'S SO BENEFICIAL TO THEM.

AND THEN THE TOP PLAYERS IT HELPS THEM ON THE FEW SHOTS THAT THEY JUST DON'T SEE RIGHT NATURALLY AND THEY KNOW HOW TO ADJUST TO SEE IT RIGHT. NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THE SHOT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE IT WILL GO.

SO I GUESS THERE IS SOMETHING THERE FOR EVERYONE, YOUNG AND OLD, FROM BEGINNER TO PRO. WE ALL NEED TO KNOW THIS.

THIS IS THE REASON I PLAY THE WAY I DO. THIS IS THE REASON I WON SO MANY TOURNAMENTS IN THE 80'S AND 90'S AND THIS IS WHY I'VE BEEN ABLE TO PLAY AT A HIGH LEVEL FOR THE LAST 6 MONTHS WITH NO PRACTICE AT ALL. MOST OF THE TIME. I HAD TO SAVE MY SHOULDER FOR TOURNAMENTS AND ACTION. I SEEMED TO PLAY BEST WHEN I HADN'T PLAYED FOR 3 OR 4 DAYS. HAD A HARD TIME PLAYING 2 DAYS IN A ROW.

IF I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THE EYES HAD TO BE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPOSSIBLE TO WIN THE LAST 2 TOURNAMENTS BEFORE MY SURGERY. IN FACT THE SECOND DAY OF BOTH OF THESE TOURNAMENTS THE PAIN WAS TERRIBLE. I WAS LUCKY TO GET THROUGH THE SECOND DAY.

I'VE HAD THIS QUESTION ASKED TO ME BEFORE. PEOPLE SAY THAT PERFECT AIM ISN'T THE REASON THAT I PLAY LIKE I DO. THAT THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER REASONS WHY. AND THEY ARE CORRECT TO A CERTAIN POINT.

BUT......WHEN YOU HAVE ONE SHOT TO MAKE FOR ALL THE BANANAS AND YOU CAN GET DOWN ON THE SHOT AND KNOW YOU HAVE IT AIMED RIGHT AND IT LOOKS RIGHT, IT SURE IS NICE WHEN YOU SHOOT THE SHOT AND IT GOES EXACTLY WHERE YOU WANT.:dance::thumbup2:

THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE.....................................................

SORRY JOEY I GOT A LITTLE CARRIED AWAY

 

[Solartje]

thanks for taking the time to type this down Geno. you sure look motivated, and im happy you are giving me this chance. I'm not expecting it to work, nor am I expecting it to fail.

i'll be testing the things you pm'ed and pm you back with the results.

ps you made me think about your comment on one-eye shooting.
I only know of one player that does that, and he moves his head from one position (one eye open) , to another position (both eyes open).

I knew a year ago i test with aiming with one eye. lining up with one eye is EASY. its a pure 2D image, and there can only be one eye dominant 1000% sure. so for aiming , this works perfect, but as soon as i open up the other eye , the image looks totally wrong, and i was unconsiously stearing my stroke to correct for this. Maybe this is what that player is doing. He aims one-eye-closed with his head in that position, and then moves it to a position where it looks good with both eyes. He is the only one doing this. i'll try to talk with him if i meet him in a tournament, to see if he knows what he is doing and WHY he is doing it (lets hope I get a better answer then, because it works.... )



maybe ambi-occulars need to do this, but i would HATE to move my head once i'm down. i know when im doing the ???? unknown thing?? right, I'm not moving my head and i can shoot lights out, maybe there is another way.
ps: the unknown thing, might be looking down at my shaft and then move my head up. i need to do more testing and spend more time on the table, to see if this is it. Don't ask me why I'm doing it, i don't know but it does something to my eyes...

Also if you watch alot of snooker on tv, since a couple of years, more and more players, very slightly move there head from left to right, when down. 5+ years ago i never saw this, and more and more are doing it. i can only imagine this has to do with eye dominance as well...

your comment on your eyes getting screwed if you cross-eye to much, i know what you are talking about. Thats what i ment with, i can force the eye dominance with my brain consiouscly, but it takes alot of effort mentally, and it screws my game for that day if done to long. Thats why i am looking for a way thats less... hard

Eyes are so fascinating, to bad they are my worst enemy

 

[genomachino]

Can call overseas now.

thanks for taking the time to type this down geno. You sure look motivated, and im happy you are giving me this chance. I'm not expecting it to work, nor am i expecting it to fail.

I'll be testing the things you pm'ed and pm you back with the results.

Ps you made me think about your comment on one-eye shooting.
I only know of one player that does that, and he moves his head from one position (one eye open) , to another position (both eyes open).

I knew a year ago i test with aiming with one eye. Lining up with one eye is easy. Its a pure 2d image, and there can only be one eye dominant 1000% sure. So for aiming , this works perfect, but as soon as i open up the other eye , the image looks totally wrong, and i was unconsiously stearing my stroke to correct for this. Maybe this is what that player is doing. He aims one-eye-closed with his head in that position, and then moves it to a position where it looks good with both eyes. He is the only one doing this. I'll try to talk with him if i meet him in a tournament, to see if he knows what he is doing and why he is doing it (lets hope i get a better answer then, because it works.... )



maybe ambi-occulars need to do this, but i would hate to move my head once i'm down. I know when im doing the ???? Unknown thing?? Right, i'm not moving my head and i can shoot lights out, maybe there is another way.
Ps: The unknown thing, might be looking down at my shaft and then move my head up. I need to do more testing and spend more time on the table, to see if this is it. Don't ask me why i'm doing it, i don't know but it does something to my eyes...

Also if you watch alot of snooker on tv, since a couple of years, more and more players, very slightly move there head from left to right, when down. 5+ years ago i never saw this, and more and more are doing it. I can only imagine this has to do with eye dominance as well...

Your comment on your eyes getting screwed if you cross-eye to much, i know what you are talking about. Thats what i ment with, i can force the eye dominance with my brain consiouscly, but it takes alot of effort mentally, and it screws my game for that day if done to long. Thats why i am looking for a way thats less... Hard :d

eyes are so fascinating, to bad they are my worst enemy :d

hi there solly

just wanted to let you know and everyone else in europe and around that now i have a phone plan that i can call you for no charge. My plan is to 60 countrys. One of those is belgium for sure.

I only speak english so the language would be a problem for some players that. But we can get around that also if there was someone to interpret.

So pm your phone number and we'll see what we can do. It will work much better being able to talk.

Thanks again geno...........................

 

[shankster8]

Gene, if we center the cue between our eyes, are our eyes then within 1/8 inch of that "perfect spot" you refer to?

In your video you say we always need to move our dominant eye towards the cue, but you fail to specify an initial eye position to move from. Isn't that senseless, because it assumes it is only possible for us to drop down on a shot with our dominant eye too far from the cue? So, let's try to make your general rule meaningful, and provide some context: If we drop onto a shot with the cue centered between our eyes, must we always move our dominant eye in, toward the cue, like you said?

 

[JoeyA]

Gene, if we center the cue between our eyes, are our eyes then within 1/8 inch of that "perfect spot" you refer to?

In your video you say we always need to move our dominant eye towards the cue, but you fail to specify an initial eye position to move from. Isn't that senseless, because it assumes it is only possible for us to drop down on a shot with our dominant eye too far from the cue? So, let's try to make your general rule meaningful, and provide some context: If we drop onto a shot with the cue centered between our eyes, must we always move our dominant eye in, toward the cue, like you said?

Shankster,
Maybe, just maybe, I don't know what you are asking or what you are trying to do. Regardless, I will take a brief shot at answering your question and I might be totally off base here and Gene can correct me.

You keep referring to Perfect Aim with this particular question and while I can't begin to know what you are trying to achieve, I will try to help:

In reference to your question, "If we center the cue between our eyes, are our eyes then within 1/8" of that "perfect spot" you refer to?"

I don't think Perfect Aim has ANYTHING to do with centering the cue between our eyes. That's where I think you are offline, if you'll pardon the pun. If Gene think differently I hope he will correct me.

I don't attempt to teach Perfect Aim because I'm not sure I would do a very good job of it but I can tell you from what I have seen in the video, your question has nothing to do with Perfect Aim.

Hope this helps with your question.

JoeyA

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Shankster,
Maybe, just maybe, I don't know what you are asking or what you are trying to do. Regardless, I will take a brief shot at answering your question and I might be totally off base here and Gene can correct me.

You keep referring to Perfect Aim with this particular question and while I can't begin to know what you are trying to achieve, I will try to help:

In reference to your question, "If we center the cue between our eyes, are our eyes then within 1/8" of that "perfect spot" you refer to?"

I don't think Perfect Aim has ANYTHING to do with centering the cue between our eyes. That's where I think you are offline, if you'll pardon the pun. If Gene think differently I hope he will correct me.

I don't attempt to teach Perfect Aim because I'm not sure I would do a very good job of it but I can tell you from what I have seen in the video, your question has nothing to do with Perfect Aim.

Hope this helps with your question.

JoeyA

I second that. And, when I shift my head--- it's way more than 1/8" either way.

 

[shankster8]

I second that. And, when I shift my head--- it's way more than 1/8" either way.

Hello Spider! When you shift your head "way more than 1/8 inch either way", where was the initial location of your eyes (relative to the cue) that you shifted from? What does "way more than 1/8 inch" mean. That sounds like Gene's nebulous talk. Are you trying to say you move your head 1 inch, or 2 inches, or are you saying sometimes you move it 1/4 inch and other times move it 2 inches?

 

[genomachino]

Please let me help you. Call me....

hello spider! When you shift your head "way more than 1/8 inch either way", where was the initial location of your eyes (relative to the cue) that you shifted from? What does "way more than 1/8 inch" mean. That sounds like gene's nebulous talk. Are you trying to say you move your head 1 inch, or 2 inches, or are you saying sometimes you move it 1/4 inch and other times move it 2 inches?

please give me a call so i can help you. I'm available right now and for most of the day.

I really want to help you understand this and help your game.

715-254-6964 or 715-563-8712 thanks looking forward to your call.

 

[shankster8]

Shankster,
Maybe, just maybe, I don't know what you are asking or what you are trying to do. Regardless, I will take a brief shot at answering your question and I might be totally off base here and Gene can correct me.

You keep referring to Perfect Aim with this particular question and while I can't begin to know what you are trying to achieve, I will try to help:

In reference to your question, "If we center the cue between our eyes, are our eyes then within 1/8" of that "perfect spot" you refer to?"

I don't think Perfect Aim has ANYTHING to do with centering the cue between our eyes. That's where I think you are offline, if you'll pardon the pun. If Gene think differently I hope he will correct me.

I don't attempt to teach Perfect Aim because I'm not sure I would do a very good job of it but I can tell you from what I have seen in the video, your question has nothing to do with Perfect Aim.

Hope this helps with your question.

JoeyA

Hello Joey! I really don't think you have a clue what Gene has been preaching. It is fractional ball aiming. The cueball/objectball overlap is established by sighting along the left edge of the cueball with the left eye for cuts to the left, and sighting along the right edge of the cueball with the right eye for cuts to the right. He emphasizes this over and over in both of his videos. Do you recall that he shines the laser line on the objectball, for say a 1/3 ball hit (cut to the left) and, when he gets down on the shot, he sights with the left eye along the left edge of the cueball and aligns that cueball edge with the laser line on the object ball, for example.

Joey, if you hold a cueball between your eyes and look into a mirror you will discover that each of your eyes is aligned with a cueball edge, within 1/8 inch. Therefore when you are aiming a shot, using Gene's fractional aiming system, the cueball is centered between your eyes (within 1/8 inch). And, when you hit the cueball on its central vertical axis, the cue is also centered between your eyes (within 1/8 inch). Come on, Joey, this isn't rocket science. (Aiming systems generally contemplate center vertical axis cueball hits - the use of english requires compensations not generally part of the basic aiming system.)

That has always been a problem with Gene's system. It requires that everyone locate their eyes identically in relation to the cue. He's wriggled around for a year now trying to disguise that apparent shortcoming. I've observed several posts wherein Gene's words imply Perfect Aim is compatible with the concept of "vision center" held by the other instructors. But Gene has boxed himself in, and can't have it both ways. For nearly a year he has been dodging my questions. I'm sure he has formulated many answers over this time, but failed to post them because he knows inside he'd wind up with foot in mouth. So he stays quiet, and promptly spams every post he possibly can with convincing words about his sincere desire to help everyone.

And a number of you think I should call Gene, and let him help me. If you read past posts, you'll discover that Gene and I did discuss things on the phone. And, after he assessed that I am a fair shooter, and that I centered the cue beneath my eyes, he said I'd need to move the cue 1/8 inch or less. I immediately said that was exactly what I had been saying in the forums, and he fell silent for a moment. I know why he did, he knows why, and the rest of you should know why, by now. In defense of his "center the cue beneath your eyes system", he explained that it was primarily intended for lower level players. He said some players don't know one end of the cue from the other, and that's who it was primarily intended for.

I accepted that; at least he'd been honest with me, and he sounded like a sincere guy. The next thing I know, however, he's posting how glad he was to have been of help to me, blah, blah, blah, and using me as another tool to spam this forum. I promptly objected to his using me as an endorsement. I will find those old posts and provide links to them in the near future. That's why I'm not now calling Gene - I already did. And, I believe I understand "Perfect Aim" as well as Gene. He presents no new information. He just presents old information in a convoluted manner, which confuses and, apparently, tantalizes everyone. Even the part in the beginning of his DVD about holding our cue motionless while aiming - that was presented years ago in another pro's video. I don't recall who that was (perhaps Gene can tell us), but I will search thru my old VHS's and post that information. I am sorry that Gene isn't as honest with the rest of you as he was with me.

 

[genomachino]

Please don't put words in my mouth.......

hello joey! I really don't think you have a clue what gene has been preaching. It is fractional ball aiming. The cueball/objectball overlap is established by sighting along the left edge of the cueball with the left eye for cuts to the left, and sighting along the right edge of the cueball with the right eye for cuts to the right. He emphasizes this over and over in both of his videos. Do you recall that he shines the laser line on the objectball, for say a 1/3 ball hit (cut to the left) and, when he gets down on the shot, he sights with the left eye along the left edge of the cueball and aligns that cueball edge with the laser line on the object ball, for example.

Joey, if you hold a cueball between your eyes and look into a mirror you will discover that each of your eyes is aligned with a cueball edge, within 1/8 inch. Therefore when you are aiming a shot, using gene's fractional aiming system, the cueball is centered between your eyes (within 1/8 inch). And, when you hit the cueball on its central vertical axis, the cue is also centered between your eyes (within 1/8 inch). Come on, joey, this isn't rocket science. (aiming systems generally contemplate center vertical axis cueball hits - the use of english requires compensations not generally part of the basic aiming system.)

that has always been a problem with gene's system. It requires that everyone locate their eyes identically in relation to the cue. He's wriggled around for a year now trying to disguise that apparent shortcoming. I've observed several posts wherein gene's words imply perfect aim is compatible with the concept of "vision center" held by the other instructors. But gene has boxed himself in, and can't have it both ways. For nearly a year he has been dodging my questions. I'm sure he has formulated many answers over this time, but failed to post them because he knows inside he'd wind up with foot in mouth. So he stays quiet, and promptly spams every post he possibly can with convincing words about his sincere desire to help everyone.

And a number of you think i should call gene, and let him help me. If you read past posts, you'll discover that gene and i did discuss things on the phone. And, after he assessed that i am a fair shooter, and that i centered the cue beneath my eyes, he said i'd need to move the cue 1/8 inch or less. I immediately said that was exactly what i had been saying in the forums, and he fell silent for a moment. I know why he did, he knows why, and the rest of you should know why, by now. In defense of his "center the cue beneath your eyes system", he explained that it was primarily intended for lower level players. he said some players don't know one end of the cue from the other, and that's who it was primarily intended for.
i accepted that; at least he'd been honest with me, and he sounded like a sincere guy. The next thing i know, however, he's posting how glad he was to have been of help to me, blah, blah, blah, and using me as another tool to spam this forum. I promptly objected to his using me as an endorsement. I will find those old posts and provide links to them in the near future. That's why i'm not now calling gene - i already did. And, i believe i understand "perfect aim" as well as gene. He presents no new information. He just presents old information in a convoluted manner, which confuses and, apparently, tantalizes everyone. Even the part in the beginning of his dvd about holding our cue motionless while aiming - that was presented years ago in another pro's video. I don't recall who that was (perhaps gene can tell us), but i will search thru my old vhs's and post that information. I am sorry that gene isn't as honest with the rest of you as he was with me.

you can have your opinion but please don't say i said something when i absolutely didn't. I highlighted the untrue statement.

Sorry i failed in the first attempt to help you. I think that was about 6 months ago. I was fairly new at teaching this and since then with the new teaching techniques in the last 2 months i have cleared this up with alot of players.

If you don't call i can't help. And to be truthful and honest i don't understand your motivation against me and what i do. Help 100's of players improve their games.

Do you really think that the 100's of players that praise perfect aim and talk about myself are making all this up.

Or could it be possible that you don't understand how it works and are wrong by what you are doing.

As it is it is a no win situation for you and for me.

This is why there are wars in the world. Failure to communicate or like in our case your refusal to communicate.

I could help clear it up for you and am willing to try.

That's all i can do.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Hello Spider! When you shift your head "way more than 1/8 inch either way", where was the initial location of your eyes (relative to the cue) that you shifted from? What does "way more than 1/8 inch" mean. That sounds like Gene's nebulous talk. Are you trying to say you move your head 1 inch, or 2 inches, or are you saying sometimes you move it 1/4 inch and other times move it 2 inches?

There's no answer to your question. For me, it depends on the cut angle. If I'm looking to hair-thin-cut a ball, my head might be a 1/2 ball off the CB. So, anywhere from 1 1/8" to 0.

 

[9ball]

Originally Posted by shankster8
hello joey! I really don't think you have a clue what gene has been preaching. It is fractional ball aiming. The cueball/objectball overlap is established by sighting along the left edge of the cueball with the left eye for cuts to the left, and sighting along the right edge of the cueball with the right eye for cuts to the right. He emphasizes this over and over in both of his videos. Do you recall that he shines the laser line on the objectball, for say a 1/3 ball hit (cut to the left) and, when he gets down on the shot, he sights with the left eye along the left edge of the cueball and aligns that cueball edge with the laser line on the object ball, for example.

Joey, if you hold a cueball between your eyes and look into a mirror you will discover that each of your eyes is aligned with a cueball edge, within 1/8 inch. Therefore when you are aiming a shot, using gene's fractional aiming system, the cueball is centered between your eyes (within 1/8 inch). And, when you hit the cueball on its central vertical axis, the cue is also centered between your eyes (within 1/8 inch). Come on, joey, this isn't rocket science. (aiming systems generally contemplate center vertical axis cueball hits - the use of english requires compensations not generally part of the basic aiming system.)

that has always been a problem with gene's system. It requires that everyone locate their eyes identically in relation to the cue. He's wriggled around for a year now trying to disguise that apparent shortcoming. I've observed several posts wherein gene's words imply perfect aim is compatible with the concept of "vision center" held by the other instructors. But gene has boxed himself in, and can't have it both ways. For nearly a year he has been dodging my questions. I'm sure he has formulated many answers over this time, but failed to post them because he knows inside he'd wind up with foot in mouth. So he stays quiet, and promptly spams every post he possibly can with convincing words about his sincere desire to help everyone.

And a number of you think i should call gene, and let him help me. If you read past posts, you'll discover that gene and i did discuss things on the phone. And, after he assessed that i am a fair shooter, and that i centered the cue beneath my eyes, he said i'd need to move the cue 1/8 inch or less. I immediately said that was exactly what i had been saying in the forums, and he fell silent for a moment. I know why he did, he knows why, and the rest of you should know why, by now. In defense of his "center the cue beneath your eyes system", he explained that it was primarily intended for lower level players. he said some players don't know one end of the cue from the other, and that's who it was primarily intended for.
i accepted that; at least he'd been honest with me, and he sounded like a sincere guy. The next thing i know, however, he's posting how glad he was to have been of help to me, blah, blah, blah, and using me as another tool to spam this forum. I promptly objected to his using me as an endorsement. I will find those old posts and provide links to them in the near future. That's why i'm not now calling gene - i already did. And, i believe i understand "perfect aim" as well as gene. He presents no new information. He just presents old information in a convoluted manner, which confuses and, apparently, tantalizes everyone. Even the part in the beginning of his dvd about holding our cue motionless while aiming - that was presented years ago in another pro's video. I don't recall who that was (perhaps gene can tell us), but i will search thru my old vhs's and post that information. I am sorry that gene isn't as honest with the rest of you as he was with me.

you can have your opinion but please don't say i said something when i absolutely didn't. I highlighted the untrue statement.

Sorry i failed in the first attempt to help you. I think that was about 6 months ago. I was fairly new at teaching this and since then with the new teaching techniques in the last 2 months i have cleared this up with alot of players.

If you don't call i can't help. And to be truthful and honest i don't understand your motivation against me and what i do. Help 100's of players improve their games.

Do you really think that the 100's of players that praise perfect aim and talk about myself are making all this up.

Or could it be possible that you don't understand how it works and are wrong by what you are doing.

As it is it is a no win situation for you and for me.

This is why there are wars in the world. Failure to communicate or like in our case your refusal to communicate.

I could help clear it up for you and am willing to try.

That's all i can do.

Gene your way too nice!:grin-square: Truth is, You can`t please everyone, thats why there are so many videos out there on playing pool.

Just keep teaching those that are willing to listen!

For everyone that says no! There are 100s that will say yes! and thanks!

Manny and I await your arrival to KC.

Get well soon!

H.P.

 

[genomachino]

This will work for everyone..........

gene your way too nice!:grin-square: Truth is, you can`t please everyone, thats why there are so many videos out there on playing pool.

Just keep teaching those that are willing to listen!

For everyone that says no! There are 100s that will say yes! And thanks!

Manny and i await your arrival to kc.

Get well soon!

h.p.

hi there,

i just get frustrated because i want to help and i know that with a little more work and the new teaching techniques he'd understand it and love it.

Oh well, life goes on. See ya soon.

 

[gwjackal]

1000 posts!

So today I spent a little over an hour talking to geno on the phone. First I called him blindly. I wasn't going to sift through this thread and confuse myself before talking to him. We got to know each other a little before we even started my phone lesson. I knew before we started which eye was my dominant eye. Listening to him just reinforced my thinking more. Now I used some 3 cushion bals for the lesson but geno still recommends using bigger balls. After I got everything needed, screwed my cue together and chalked my cue, I placed geno on speaker phone. Using the cushion of a gold crown 3 to prop my phone up, it kinda felt like he was right there with me. Using the balls in a straight in shot senario I could see with the big balls, just how my body would align itself for this type of shot. Now I grounded my cue and found true center on the cueball and made my alignment shift left to right closing one eye then the other to find where in real life I needed to be! On every shot there seems to be a perfect spot for alinging using perect aim for every shot.

Now I have very bad eyes, probably the worst of any shooter you will run across. I have an astigmatism in both eyes so aligning for me has always been an issue. I played with this for about an hour after I got off the phone and proceeded to run some mother drills that I am very familiar with just threw in a few kinks to them.

I am pleased as punch having called geno. I would like to thank him for taking the time to fully explain this to a complete stranger. I am going to be playing with this some more over the next week just playing center balls shots and stroke speed for shape. Once I am comfortable with this. I will be working with one of the local kids to pass the info on and to make sure I fully grasp it.

So stay tuned for an update! If you have not called geno yet call him besides he needs something to keep him busy with his jacked up shoulder.

Thanks for everything and you can bet on it we will be in touch. Get well soon geno.

Thanks,
Greg "the jackal" Jacklin