It’s entirely unreasonable. They have the power to get away with it. Doesn’t make it okay.
Lol. Reminded me of the guy in the 'Color Of Money' scene in the bar that Tom Cruise/Vincent hustled.Have the logo painted on the sole of your shoe then cock your back leg in the air after every shot
If you didn't cash, doesn't seem like you should be compensated anythingI pay an entry fee.
I have to wear a logo while I play, for a company that competes with one I endorse.
I finish out of the money.
How much, in dollars, was I directly compensated for wearing that competing logo? The answer can't be that players on the whole were compensated. I am the one who provided a service (space on my clothes for advertising purposes), so how much was I, and I alone, paid? The chance to try to earn compensation is not direct compensation.
Not really. He gets paid by Cuetec and it's not worth it for him to play this event.Shane is a badass.
I've been super supportive of Predator the past 20 years, and very vocally supported them on these forums over the years for two reasons: 1) I believe they make the best shafts in the world. 2) They return a ton of money to the game by sponsoring almost every event under the sun.
I don't know all the details of what transpired here, and I doubt anyone except Predator and Matchroom really do. But the takeaway from me is I'm left with a bad taste in my mouth at Predator now.
I see now. You have to click on the link for the groups on the bottom of the page. I deleted my previous post - thanksOn the Matchroom.pool site, on the page for Championship League, it still works for me, and these are the players listed:
Group 1
Albin Ouschan
Chris Melling
Chris Robinson
Eklent Kaci
Joshua Filler
Kelly Fisher
Niels Fiejen
Group 2
David Alcaide
Mieszko Fortunski
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Group 3
Billy Thorpe
Darren Appleton
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Group 4
Kristina Tkach
Naoyuki Oi
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Group 5
Marc Bijsterbosch
Roberto Gomez
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Group 6
Alex Kazakis
Casper Matikainen
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Group 7
Jasmin Ouschan
Denis Grabe
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The point was that someone said I would be compensated for wearing a logo. My point is that I wouldn't be. And if they want me to wear a logo and I do so, I provided the service they requested, so, yes, I should be compensated.If you didn't cash, doesn't seem like you should be compensated anything
I feel you and JAM have an understanding of how things work. If Predator put up the money...they have a perfect right to promote only their brand.its common when sponsors put up significant money and dont feel they should give out free advertising. i can understand that.
its a business deal. the players can play with the rules or not. it is their choice.
their own sponsors should have an option to pay to have their emblems on the players shirts.
and matchroom could let them maybe have one small patch that is approved.
if it was my tournament and i was adding money, i wouldnt let a player show up all dressed in ads for my competitors would you.
I think you gravely underestimate the idiocy of the general public. People don't consciously think about these things and they won't distinguish pool league from Predator in general. They see predator, they associate those players with predator.I guess I'd have to see the logo. If it says, Predator Champions League, I'm not sure that really signals that every player there is using a predator cue. Especially since they are likely to have their own sponsorship logo underneath. I think it would be different if it was just a general 'Predator Cues' patch, which would likely cause confusion.
The other question is why is all of this coming to a head now a couple of weeks ahead of the event? I would have thought contracts would have been made clear before the promotional materials were made.
I said it, you gain value from the added $$$, regardless if you cash.The point was that someone said I would be compensated for wearing a logo. My point is that I wouldn't be. And if they want me to wear a logo and I do so, I provided the service they requested, so, yes, I should be compensated.
You just pointed out why I don't run dealership plate frames on any of my cars. If they expect me to advertise for them, I should be compensated.The point was that someone said I would be compensated for wearing a logo. My point is that I wouldn't be. And if they want me to wear a logo and I do so, I provided the service they requested, so, yes, I should be compensated.
So, 19 players in total. Based on their current FargoRates, their world rankings are:On the Matchroom.pool site, on the page for Championship League, it still works for me, and these are the players listed: ...
Shaw, Gorst and VanBoening would have added to the top 25.So, 19 players in total. Based on their current FargoRates, their world rankings are:
Top 25 -- 4 players (Filler, Feijen, Kaci, A. Ouschan)
26-50 -- 4 players (Oi, Kazakis, Alcaide, Grabe)
51-100 -- 6 players (Fortunski, Gomez, Melling, Appleton, Thorpe, Matikainen)
101+ -- 5 players (Fisher, Bijsterbosch, Robinson, J. Ouschan, Tkach)
I said it, you gain value from the added $$$, regardless if you cash.
It's simple, don't play if you think you're getting screwed. Only play the tourneys that pay you to wear their logo. How many is that btw? I'm guessing zero, so what's all the complaining about.