playing bums........

This is a repost from '06 for the young guys who want to be real aggressive in the bars.
Not the biggest but the most interesting win I had was when I was 21. $20.00 8 ball on a bar box against the homebar favorite. Big money for me then. This was in a little milltown bar upriver from Pittsburgh. Rough. I had a nasty guy with me so I wasn't bothered.
I go up $140.00 net and the guy ran out of cash and wants to write checks . Under a lot of noise we say no thanks and make our exit. The homebar crowd follows us out the lot but are held back when someone recognizes my partner.
We are traveling down Allegheny River boulevard thinking we're home free when we see the lights gaining on us. That's scary stuff. They caught up and forced us off the road onto a remote lot. They pulled my partner out of the car and started to dance. I figeured what the hell and got out and went for the closest guy.
The last thing I remember was a feeling of flying. I wake up in a creek on my back with water running over my shoulders. They had thrown me off a twenty foot bridge . I wind up in a hospital for a week and my friend was battered up a bit. They got the money back. Not much of a win. I never went back to that bar.

I was a real smart-ass then . Now I'm the nicest guy in the house.
 
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12310bch said:
This is a repost from '06 for the young guys who want to be real aggressive in the bars.
Not the biggest but the most interesting win I had was when I was 21. $20.00 8 ball on a bar box against the homebar favorite. Big money for me then. This was in a little milltown bar upriver from Pittsburgh. Rough. I had a nasty guy with me so I wasn't bothered.
I go up $140.00 net and the guy ran out of cash and wants to write checks . Under a lot of noise we say no thanks and make our exit. The homebar crowd follows us out the lot but are held back when someone recognizes my partner.
We are traveling down Allegheny River boulevard thinking we're home free when we see the lights gaining on us. That's scary stuff. They caught up and forced us off the road onto a remote lot. They pulled my partner out of the car and started to dance. I figeured what the hell and got out and went for the closest guy.
The last thing I remember was a feeling of flying. I wake up in a creek on my back with water running over my shoulders. They had thrown me off a twenty foot bridge . I wind up in a hospital for a week and my friend was battered up a bit. They got the money back. Not much of a win. I never went back to that bar.

I was a real smart-ass then . Now I'm the nicest guy in the house.
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Which is why there is always a gun very close at hand......for just such an occurance.
 
I think that if you are out playing or hustling guy's in bars you are probably a border line bum yourself. If you wanted to develop your skills to the best pay your due's and play with the best get your ass handed to you till it motivates you to no end. Then you can go to the big boy club and play pool with the best of them.


I don't know I could be totally wrong?
 
you missed it Craig.

Craig I would like to flame you but that seems to get me into more trouble than it's worth.:ignore:
I picture you shooting pool in a surgeons' mask, gown, and rubber gloves.
There is more pool going on right now in the scurvy little dives with their 7-foot , beer stained, cigarette burned, bar boxes with music so loud you can't think,than there is in all the family oriented, red felted, good smelling billiard parlors that they will ever build.
But by God there was real danger there. We borderline bums are part of the history of this game. Maybe a small part, some say a bad part.
But it was there. It was no effing game .It was a lifestyle. It had character and excitement, and a risk that goes way beyond that of losing money. There was nothing like controlling a table until last call. Nothing like
dumping all the money out of you pockets on to the bed(mostly one's).We
weren't the elite but we were the big boys. We all knew who could shoot who.It didn't matter if we were white, black, or brown. The skills of shooting pool were a tool for what we really did. We hustled.A true art form that is lost to the aggressive ,bullying tactics I hear from young guys
to often these days on the forum.
I know , this is typical "good old days" bullcrap from an old fogey but that's the price you pay for being young.:(
 
Off the topic!

jcpoolgod said:
im sure we all do it.......why do we go out and shoot at a bar with a bunch of bums, that arent gonna do anything but bring our games down, i might be done with that scene...its just so hard to go to a bar that has a table and not play
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I think you all got off the topic! (And I am waiting to be corrected....However...)

It appears in the first post like the poster is saying how unenjoyable it can be to play against "non-players".

In most bars, there can be a guy/girl, or a group who think they are awesome at pool! Meanwhile, everything they think about english is wrong, they have terrible form, no nothing about position, and have never been to a poolhall! But when they walk around, act like pool gods, and know nothing!

Or, there's that couple goofing around, enjoying themselves to end (innocently), playing doubles on the pool table and laughing (at themselves, not at you or the other player),at missed shots, lucky rolls, or an awesome 2 ball run, and you just see them as demeaning a game you love, and take very seriously.

Frustration from those "bums", plus poor equipment (it is a bar) can take a toll no you and your game and bring you down.

I no longer play in bars because of this as well as other factors. My game does go down a few notches when I play lesser players. It is a flaw in my game! Which is why I prefer to play better players, under better conditions, where I enjoy the experience, I play better, and I feel good win or lose if I played good.

If I'm in a bar with a table, I will always sit by it and take in everything about the game I love, but I know there is no enjoyment in those conditions for me anymore, so I don't.

Contradictory though, I was one of those bums getting beat and hustled by real players who'd come through the bar, and it forced me into a poolhall to start learning to play.

At some point I hope my game is up at a level, where I can go and enjoy playing people in bars again and not have their game effect my game. Then I can return the favor to someone else, and get them away from their idea of pool, and start to see and learn what it's really about!

(off on a tangent much?)
 
Scotty you got it right, thats what i ment if take playing pool serious like i do and im sure the rest of us do get out of the bars and into the pool room. Stop playing the people who dont have a clue! when they get a clue they will join us in the pool room. As for huslting that for the early years you cant get by with it without getting shot. go to the pool room dont hide your skills tell them " Hey I can F-ing play! post up and I'll show you" We need more pool rooms not kidy corner's old fasion pool rooms.
 
not dead yet!

You missed it again Little Lord Fauntleroy.:speechless:The game was to do it without getting shot!!!!
 
12310bch said:
Craig I would like to flame you but that seems to get me into more trouble than it's worth.:ignore:
I picture you shooting pool in a surgeons' mask, gown, and rubber gloves.
There is more pool going on right now in the scurvy little dives with their 7-foot , beer stained, cigarette burned, bar boxes with music so loud you can't think,than there is in all the family oriented, red felted, good smelling billiard parlors that they will ever build.
But by God there was real danger there. We borderline bums are part of the history of this game. Maybe a small part, some say a bad part.
But it was there. It was no effing game .It was a lifestyle. It had character and excitement, and a risk that goes way beyond that of losing money. There was nothing like controlling a table until last call. Nothing like
dumping all the money out of you pockets on to the bed(mostly one's).We
weren't the elite but we were the big boys. We all knew who could shoot who.It didn't matter if we were white, black, or brown. The skills of shooting pool were a tool for what we really did. We hustled.A true art form that is lost to the aggressive ,bullying tactics I hear from young guys
to often these days on the forum.
I know , this is typical "good old days" bullcrap from an old fogey but that's the price you pay for being young.:(
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The money was good hustling pool in bars back in the day, but just as important was the tension, the excitement, and getting out with the money w/o getting a beating or robbed outside the bar. God I miss those days. Johnnyt
 
no fking wonder

It's no wonder that the pool world has gone to hell! All anyone can seem to do is bash other poeple to make them selfs feel like they are the answer to all the problems. All im trying to get across is if you find yourself in a bar atmosphere with nobody to play but drunks and a guy out with his girlfriend and it bums you out, then get out of the bar scene and into a real pool room with people that are there to play pool and pool only you can match up with your skill level or the $ amount you need or hell just practice on some nice equiment thats not beer stained because the real pool players that care about the game would'nt set their drink on the table to start with. Every body keeps asking when will pool get noticed like golf it wont ever if we dont stop acting like a buch of f-king kids.
 
I don't even look at a pool table in a bar. The majority of the people on that table don't know their ass from a hole in the ground and they all think they're the next world champion. Nah, can't be bothered with that kind of crap. Not to mention I just don't like being around drunk, arrogant ass clowns.
MULLY
 
CRAIG CUE"S said:
I think that if you are out playing or hustling guy's in bars you are probably a border line bum yourself. If you wanted to develop your skills to the best pay your due's and play with the best get your ass handed to you till it motivates you to no end. Then you can go to the big boy club and play pool with the best of them.


I don't know I could be totally wrong?
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Sometimes you end up in bars wether you like it or not. And more often than not theres a loud drunk ahole who cant shoot, calling everyone out. In these instances its almost a moral obligation to shut his a$$ up.
 
Huh!!!

mullyman said:
I don't even look at a pool table in a bar. The majority of the people on that table don't know their ass from a hole in the ground and they all think they're the next world champion. Nah, can't be bothered with that kind of crap. Not to mention I just don't like being around drunk, arrogant ass clowns.
MULLY
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I was NEVER arrogant !!!!:nono:
 
12310bch said:
This is a repost from '06 for the young guys who want to be real aggressive in the bars.
Not the biggest but the most interesting win I had was when I was 21. $20.00 8 ball on a bar box against the homebar favorite. Big money for me then. This was in a little milltown bar upriver from Pittsburgh. Rough. I had a nasty guy with me so I wasn't bothered.
I go up $140.00 net and the guy ran out of cash and wants to write checks . Under a lot of noise we say no thanks and make our exit. The homebar crowd follows us out the lot but are held back when someone recognizes my partner.
We are traveling down Allegheny River boulevard thinking we're home free when we see the lights gaining on us. That's scary stuff. They caught up and forced us off the road onto a remote lot. They pulled my partner out of the car and started to dance. I figeured what the hell and got out and went for the closest guy.
The last thing I remember was a feeling of flying. I wake up in a creek on my back with water running over my shoulders. They had thrown me off a twenty foot bridge . I wind up in a hospital for a week and my friend was battered up a bit. They got the money back. Not much of a win. I never went back to that bar.

I was a real smart-ass then . Now I'm the nicest guy in the house.
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i'd have gone back and shot up the bar. that's how we roll in nor cal though
 
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