Playing Pool with a Snooker Cue

I've used a 10mm tip for pool for 10+ years - it's hollow for squirt reduction, yet stiff hitting with a conical taper. Besides being very low squirt, it aids and encourages precision and focus. I'm not at all limited in the kinds of shots or amount of force I can produce with it . The only thing I don't do is break with it.

pj
chgo
A couple of questions Patrick.

Do you adopt a long bridge and play BHE style or a shorter bridge with near parallel aiming?

And what type of tip do you use?

Ferrule material?

Maple shaft?

Colin
 
figured I'd let you find out for yourself

I didn't want to start a whole other thread so I am bumping this one. I got my snooker cue a little over a month ago and have been playing exclusively with it (besides my break shot). To my surprise my game has gone up by 2 or 3 balls. I have also been working a ton on my fundamentals as well. I have switched between the two a couple of times and I seem to play more consistent and accurate with my snooker cue. I went from shooting 60-70 percent to shooting 80-90 percent. Maybe its the smaller tip that makes me focus more or something but it was not what I was expecting. Anyone else prefer to use a snooker cue to play pool. BTW the tip I play with is 10mm.



I figured I'd let you find out for yourself instead of telling you and everyone proclaiming BS. Using it to play pool with, the snooker cue is more of a precision instrument and it changes your playing style somewhat if you play with it very long, changes it for the better.

About the elkmasters, I played with a milk dud for years with minor shaping. I had to shape the ones I got a few times when they were new, during the first few weeks, then I left them alone. Very rarely shaping I played with one tip for years. I did only hit a few power shots a night with the snooker cue, one of the changes in playing style.

Hu
 
I've played for a bit of money at snooker, pool, and carambole.
I got a snooker cue, a pool cue, and a carom cue.
I recommend using the right tool for the job.

You can hit a green from 80 yards with a three iron.....
....but a man with a pitching wedge will rob you.

Thank you for stating the obvious, and I mean that as a complement. I've used a pool cue to play snooker and billiards, and tried a snooker cue at pool. It can certainly be done, but why? It's like swimming upstream when you don't have to. There's a reason they make different cues for different games, and that the great majority (like ALL) of the top players at each game play with them.

JMHO as always. :thumbup:
 
Steve Davis initially played 9 ball with a snooker cue and then adopted a specially made "hybrid". I've seen English players playing high quality social "US" 8 ball who use a snooker cue and it serves them very very well. They break with a house cue. I guess it depends what level you aspire to but someone with a snooker background might find the trade off of not switching worthwhile.

They might even be certain shots on a pool table that are better suited to a snooker cue than a pool one (although I haven't really thought about this).
 
Where do you play in Portland?

What snooker cue did you get?

Much as I love my Mike Woodridge snooker cue, I'm still intrigued by the thought of getting a snooker shaft from Schuler. But not intrigued enough to drop $170.

I have a snooker cue, a billiard cue, and a few pool cues, which together allow me to rise to the same level of mediocrity at multiple games.


I play downtown Portland mostly at Sams Billiards. I got a Dark Horse cue which I found on ebay for 80 bucks. For 80 bucks it actually plays pretty good. Just put a nice kamui tip on it. I am looking into getting a nice custom 1 piece snooker cue. I have heard nothing but amazing things about Mike Woodridge's cues. Which cue did you get from him and how do you like it? Care to share a picture or the specs of the cue? I have a nice Pechauer pool cue but it has been collecting dust for the past month or so.

But what are the issues / disadvantages again when using an ash (stiff?) snooker cue (10mm) ?
Its harder to "move" the pool cueball around the 9ft table using a snooker cue because ... ???

Sorry if my questions are a bit noob'ish.

Thanx
Cheers.

there really isn't any difference between ash and maple shafts. It is more of a visual difference than a playability difference. One thing that is a little bit more difficult with a smaller tip is shooting off the rail. You have to have a very good stroke and might have to be elevated a little bit. Other than that there really isn't any disadvantage to using a snooker cue playing pool. It is harder to find a good center ball hit but that's only if you need to work on your stroke/cueing.
 
I've used a 10mm tip for pool for 10+ years - it's hollow for squirt reduction, yet stiff hitting with a conical taper. Besides being very low squirt, it aids and encourages precision and focus. I'm not at all limited in the kinds of shots or amount of force I can produce with it . The only thing I don't do is break with it.

pj
chgo
Colin:
A couple of questions Patrick.

Do you adopt a long bridge and play BHE style or a shorter bridge with near parallel aiming?
Shorter bridge with near parallel aiming. I adjust for side spin entirely by feel and (usually) get into stance with my aim pre-adjusted for squirt/swerve.

And what type of tip do you use?
I like hard layered tips - currently using Ultraskin hard (good bang for the buck).

Ferrule material?
I'm not sure - a common white plastic (aegis?). My ferrule is pretty short (3/8").

Maple shaft?
Yes, solid maple (except for the hollow).

No, Pat. Oh, that wasn't a question...

pj
chgo
 
One thing that is a little bit more difficult with a smaller tip is shooting off the rail. You have to have a very good stroke and might have to be elevated a little bit.
I haven't experienced that. What/why do you mean?

It is harder to find a good center ball hit but that's only if you need to work on your stroke/cueing.
I haven't experienced this either...?

pj
chgo
 
Shorter bridge with near parallel aiming. I adjust for side spin entirely by feel and (usually) get into stance with my aim pre-adjusted for squirt/swerve.


I like hard layered tips - currently using Ultraskin hard (good bang for the buck).


I'm not sure - a common white plastic (aegis?). My ferrule is pretty short (3/8").


Yes, solid maple (except for the hollow).


No, Pat. Oh, that wasn't a question...

pj
chgo

Thanks Pat!

And in regard to the other poster's speculation about small tips being harder to hit off rails... WOW, it has been generally accepted everywhere I've played that the opposite is true.

As as for small tips making it hard to hit center... well, no idea how one could make such a conclusion.

Colin
 
I was just wondering if anyone likes playing with a snooker cue over a pool cue when playing 9-ball, 8-ball ect. I would like to get into the game of snooker and want to eventually get a snooker cue. I was wondering is there any good in-between cues that you can use for both snooker and pool that would work well? That way you can get comfortable with one cue for both games. I have seen a couple of pros play 9-ball with a snooker cue but I assume they are normally snooker players so they are more comfortable with that style of cue.

Isn't snooker cues too stiff for pool? Have you tried Mezz Snooker cue ?
 
Isn't snooker cues too stiff for pool? Have you tried Mezz Snooker cue ?

I haven't tried Mezz's snooker cue yet but for 800 bucks I don't think its worth it. For 800 bucks you can get a custom snooker cue from one of the best cue makers. In my opinion it doesn't really matter how stiff a cue is or how soft a cue is, it's all about personal preference. It does make a different sound than my pool cue but I actually like how stiff it is. If you have ever watched a game of snooker and heard how their cues sound that is exactly how my cue sounds.
 
From all the mixed responses It's sounding like the 'snooker cue for pool' debate may boil down to simply being a personal preference thing rather than any tried & tested / proven disadvantages ?

Damn, I was hoping some of my poor pool skills may have been the fault of my 10mm snooker cue. (Looks like its the tradesman & not the tools again - hehe)

Mass / Weight hasn't been mentioned much - I'm guessing the average pool cue would be heavier than the average snooker cue ? (fatter shaft on pool cues = more timber = more mass v's average snooker cue ?) Perhaps cue weight is just another personal preference thing with regard to this debate with again, no major benefits other than personal taste ?

Cheers.
 
From all the mixed responses It's sounding like the 'snooker cue for pool' debate may boil down to simply being a personal preference thing rather than any tried & tested / proven disadvantages ?

Damn, I was hoping some of my poor pool skills may have been the fault of my 10mm snooker cue. (Looks like its the tradesman & not the tools again - hehe)

Mass / Weight hasn't been mentioned much - I'm guessing the average pool cue would be heavier than the average snooker cue ? (fatter shaft on pool cues = more timber = more mass v's average snooker cue ?) Perhaps cue weight is just another personal preference thing with regard to this debate with again, no major benefits other than personal taste ?

Cheers.

I think the smaller tip of a snooker cue has less surface area impact on the cue ball and that could possibly be why some shots could be harder. I want to take my pool cue and snooker cue out and try out some tests regarding different shots.
 
I think the smaller tip of a snooker cue has less surface area impact on the cue ball and that could possibly be why some shots could be harder.

I think Dr. Dave has got some info on tip contact surface area v's tip size / tip shape.

Tip hardness & tip shape may be a bigger factor than ferrule size in this regard... ?
 
Thanks Pat!

And in regard to the other poster's speculation about small tips being harder to hit off rails... WOW, it has been generally accepted everywhere I've played that the opposite is true.

As as for small tips making it hard to hit center... well, no idea how one could make such a conclusion.

Colin

Speculation? I agree with him. Makes sense to me...
 
I play downtown Portland mostly at Sams Billiards.

Played on that table about 6 months ago. Not played snooker for 15yrs and didn't think the move from 9 to 10ft would be that hard - thought wrong! Could barely string together a few shots before I got the feel of it again. Wish they kept it in a quieter spot though.
 
Play Dave Pearson one time. He was using a one-piece snooker cue and the tip was even crooked. Of course he won and he wound up winning the tournament. He was playing James Walden $1,000 a game one pocket after the tournament I don't know who come out ahead on that.
 
Andrew Barlow finished 3rd in the U.S. Amateur Championship in 1998 using a 1-piece snooker cue. I don't know the tip size.
Since someone has resurrected this thread...

I have played lots of pool and snooker with Andrew Barlow. He always used the same one-piece snooker cue. The tip was not remarkable for a snooker cue -- maybe 10mm and of course with a brass ferrule.

In the local 14.1 league, he had the highest handicap and the highest run of 108 and out with 4.5-inch pockets.

He had no trouble playing both games with the same cue. I had a snooker cue for snooker and a different stance.
 
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