Playing the ghost?

donny mills said:
Come down here and lets do it now, if you lose i'll pay your way home and food.
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You know....if you are gonna keep coming on here and try and convince people that you can play, you are gonna have to make some games that include you playing away from home....just some advice. But you have that game my $300 to your $100/ rack in Chesapeake in October....

Southpaw
 
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Southpaw said:
You know....if you are gonna keep coming on here and try and convince people that you can play, you are gonna have to make some games that include you playing away from home....just some advice. But you have that game my $300 to your $100/ rack in Chesapeake in October....

Southpaw
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lol.

there are 2 types of players
1. players that talk
2. players that just say bring your paycheck.

its very easy to figure the two out
 
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Well Im not saying that 300 racks is the truth, but the pros have really gotten too god for 9-ball I think. When was the 35 number from?

The last couple of years (like 2003-8) the racks have improved, the players have very controlled breaks etc. Check out a couple of top wpc-matches and you will see.

But if it still is 35% in 9-ball I think it would be 6% in 10-ball. :D

My numbers only told me what I knew, 10-ball is really another ballgame.

Ps. I have numbers on safties, missed balls etc. too. ds.
 
First off, I'm not sure why a couple of you are hung up on my use of the word "torture." It's a word used to describe what the winner does to the loser. If player A beats player B, I'm going to relay short version story as, "Yeah, Player B just got tortured," no matter what the score was.

Jaden, I understand what you're saying about watching the players play ten ball and not get out half the time. IMO, that's comparing apples and oranges. First, players don't get BIH after the break in tourneys. Second, and more importantly, the player playing the ghost is going to get in dead whiz because the ghost can't keep you in you're chair.
 
Black-Balled said:
I think Donny, today, is better than today's Earl.
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How about Earl 1980-1990? Did he have a 2:1 b&r ratio? I find it hard to believe anyone has accomplished that feat. Maybe in a tournament or match or even a full week of shooting. But 2:1 EVERY TIME he is in action? That's some serious playing.
 
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donny mills said:
Yes playing the ghost. I'll play the 9ball ghost with NO BALL IN HAND AND I HAVE TO MAKE A BALL ON THE BREAK, IF I DONT MAKE A BALL ON THE BREAK I LOSE THAT GAME. What odds can i get playing by the game??
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I'll send you a PM so as to not knock any action, but I might be willing to bet it up if you are willing to bet on consecutive racks ran.
 
Drew said:
How about Earl 1980-1990? ...some serious playing.
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I don't know about the math but he played good enough to win then...everything.

I also know I would not want to bet against him in any ghost-style format during that decade.
 
lets play donny

ill keep this short and simple donny.
i think you play awesome and have some gamble.
ive noticed you have been on here asking for games.
heres what ill do its not much but ill do it.
ill play you even 10ball on a diamond even in your hometown.
if you dont want to play thats cool i would rather bet on you .
if you do want to play let me know champ.
 
Black-Balled said:
I don't know about the math but he played good enough to win then...everything.

I also know I would not want to bet against him in any ghost-style format during that decade.
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The ghost by definition never misses. The ghost shoots 1.000 100% of time. Are you saying Earl Strickland was better than that?

If you think there is anybody in the world that can play even money against the ghost WITHOUT BIH...you've got action. I would liquidate my assets for that game.
 
Drew said:
The ghost by definition never misses. The ghost shoots 1.000 100% of time. Are you saying Earl Strickland was better than that?

If you think there is anybody in the world that can play even money against the ghost WITHOUT BIH...you've got action. I would liquidate my assets for that game.
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All I said ewas Earl played good enough to win practically everything in the 80-90 decade.

I would not have liked to bet on the ghost against him between those years.

And, go to DCC and see who wants to take a couple of sets shot @ the ghost even, as you say, "If you think there is anybody in the world that can play even money against the ghost WITHOUT BIH...you've got action. I would liquidate my assets for that game".

I am sure somebody on here could find a bit of play for you...
 
Not to derail the thread, but I heard back in the 70's or 80's Keith McCready used to take action that he could run 10 racks on a barbox. And if I remember correctly he wasn't asking for odds or ball in hand after the break either.

Maybe Jay or JAM can clarify or deny this, I think either little Jeff or Spider told me this, they were Keith's running partners for a while back in the day.
 
Drew said:
The ghost by definition never misses. The ghost shoots 1.000 100% of time. Are you saying Earl Strickland was better than that?

If you think there is anybody in the world that can play even money against the ghost WITHOUT BIH...you've got action. I would liquidate my assets for that game.
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you couldnt have said this any better.

as i stated about 72 pages ago you cant win
 
dave sutton said:
you couldnt have said this any better.

as i stated about 72 pages ago you cant win
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I don't understand...does this mean you want to bet a top pro he can't beat the ghost in a set?
 
I would think a solid A player can beat the 9-ball ghost, especially if he knows anything about racking. All depends on the bet I guess.
 
Black-Balled said:
I don't understand...does this mean you want to bet a top pro he can't beat the ghost in a set?
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Ok I'll bite. 10 ahead 10-ball I'm in for $500. If you want to bet more I'll need a little more time to get the money together. No BIH. Must make a ball on the break CB fouls. 9ft table with 4.5" pockets or smaller. I'm willing to do this via live stream.
 
Fart sniffer said:
I would think a solid A player can beat the 9-ball ghost, especially if he knows anything about racking. All depends on the bet I guess.
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We're not exactly talking about the ghost anymore. No A player can break and run out more often than not. I'm curious to see if anyone can.
 
Drew said:
We're not exactly talking about the ghost anymore. No A player can break and run out more often than not. I'm curious to see if anyone can.
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Oh, never tried that. Will try it tonight and see how I do but I think I would be on the losing end of it also, and I am around a low A-player in my eyes. No BIH and all fouls count right? No combinations or 9's on the snap?
 
Fart sniffer said:
Oh, never tried that. Will try it tonight and see how I do but I think I would be on the losing end of it also, and I am around a low A-player in my eyes. No BIH and all fouls count right? No combinations or 9's on the snap?
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Well you can try it which ever way you'd like. FWIW, I wouldn't bet on you.
 
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