Pool America Sports 2

I'm not exactly sure what I was looking at. If the purpose was trying to sell me or others, it's fairly slow and boring. Most of the footage looks great but for the most part, it's just boring. The song just doesn't fit. That's love making music. I would find a different song. Way too slow.

Consider speeding it up, quicker cuts and be more to the point with your message. I watched it twice and it really doesn't make sense. It starts off talking about players making money then randomly into a format for playing. It's very confusing.

Also, "Pool America Sports", I would rework that name. It's very awkward.

Just constructive criticism.
 
Thanks for the criticism

cleary said:
I'm not exactly sure what I was looking at. If the purpose was trying to sell me or others, it's fairly slow and boring. Most of the footage looks great but for the most part, it's just boring. The song just doesn't fit. That's love making music. I would find a different song. Way too slow.

Consider speeding it up, quicker cuts and be more to the point with your message. I watched it twice and it really doesn't make sense. It starts off talking about players making money then randomly into a format for playing. It's very confusing.

Also, "Pool America Sports", I would rework that name. It's very awkward.

Just constructive criticism.
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Get a life Cleary. I guess I should ask you before I do anything. Do you have any questions, I'll answer them.

Jim
 
jimM said:
Get a life Cleary. I guess I should ask you before I do anything. Do you have any questions, I'll answer them.

Jim
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Yes, I have a questions... what the $*@& are you doing? It doesn't make sense.
 
Sorry for offering constructive criticism, but I guess you know it all already. Good luck bud.
 
Actually..I kind of liked it. One suggestion would be to not use paypal exclusively while making it easy to pay by another means.

Call me old & silly...but I do NOT put my credit card numbers on the net!
 
You said, "Please comment as much as possible." and then followed up with this? You'd better get some thicker skin, you'll need it.

Good luck,
--Steve

jimM said:
Get a life Cleary. I guess I should ask you before I do anything. Do you have any questions, I'll answer them.

Jim
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jimM said:
Please comment as much as possible.
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At the risk of joining cleary in the doghouse...I have very little idea of what I'm buying, how to buy it or when I'm supposed to buy it. Another poster mentioned PayPal vs. Credit Card but I didn't see reference to either one.

I know it costs $9.95 and is an investment in my future. Video quality was excellent. I like the music although a little more uptempo would probably appeal to the younger market.

I've marketed dozens of start-ups and I know how hard it is to hear criticism of something you've worked so hard on: It's like a knife in the heart. But I wish people would have been more critical of my work. It would have saved me a lot of money.
 
Actually, there's a lot more detail and clarity with Jay Helfert's new venture, "Funny Ball".

If not here, could you at least provide a description for the YouTube video so we have some idea of what is being proposed?
 
I'll join you both there...

bdorman said:
At the risk of joining cleary in the doghouse...I have very little idea of what I'm buying, how to buy it or when I'm supposed to buy it. Another poster mentioned PayPal vs. Credit Card but I didn't see reference to either one.

I know it costs $9.95 and is an investment in my future. Video quality was excellent. I like the music although a little more uptempo would probably appeal to the younger market.

I've marketed dozens of start-ups and I know how hard it is to hear criticism of something you've worked so hard on: It's like a knife in the heart. But I wish people would have been more critical of my work. It would have saved me a lot of money.
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It sounded like he was asking for charity rather than promoting something I might be interested in.

The goal in marketing is to convince your target market that you have something they cant live without, not beg for 10 dollars like a newspaper boy who cant collect...

Jaden
 
thanks

cleary said:
Yes, I have a questions... what the $*@& are you doing? It doesn't make sense.
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Now, there's a question.

We are making a city team league. I am going to video the games, edit them together and put them up on PPV for $9.95. 90% of the PPV money will be split between the players on the two teams. 60%/40% winners and losers.

We plan to have 8 teams in this area competing. As long as the teams are within driving distance.

The reason this can be a good future for pool players is that everyone always looks for someone to come in to the pool world and put up money and take care of everyone. Or make some great production that will air on NBC prime time. Well, I don't believe that will happen. So our model takes a very simple and realistic view of the situation. Since no outsider can really help, the players have to do it for themselves. If enough players watch the matches, everyone on 8 teams can make more money than 85% of the top players now. That's 48 players making a living wage.

The games will be very interesting and the players are great. But if you think deeper than just the entertainment or learning value, you as players, can have control of your futures. Playing pool could actually be a valuable skill. If $50-$100,000 a year is common for players, there would be a lot more people looking to play and make it a career.

The fact is, if the players don't want to support this, it won't go anywhere. But in killing this, they may be killing their future possibilities. They won't have a place to make money when they finally get good enough to be in that position.

Thanks,
Jim

More questions, please.
 
I like the part where it says this $9.95 investment is for your future. Reminds me of the old "you give me" line. I'll invest in my future by keeping my money in my pocket. JMO!
 
jimM said:
Now, there's a question.

We are making a city team league. I am going to video the games, edit them together and put them up on PPV for $9.95. 90% of the PPV money will be split between the players on the two teams. 60%/40% winners and losers.

We plan to have 8 teams in this area competing. As long as the teams are within driving distance.

The reason this can be a good future for pool players is that everyone always looks for someone to come in to the pool world and put up money and take care of everyone. Or make some great production that will air on NBC prime time. Well, I don't believe that will happen. So our model takes a very simple and realistic view of the situation. Since no outsider can really help, the players have to do it for themselves. If enough players watch the matches, everyone on 8 teams can make more money than 85% of the top players now. That's 48 players making a living wage.

The games will be very interesting and the players are great. But if you think deeper than just the entertainment or learning value, you as players, can have control of your futures. Playing pool could actually be a valuable skill. If $50-$100,000 a year is common for players, there would be a lot more people looking to play and make it a career.

The fact is, if the players don't want to support this, it won't go anywhere. But in killing this, they may be killing their future possibilities. They won't have a place to make money when they finally get good enough to be in that position.

Thanks,
Jim

More questions, please.
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That makes a little more sense and should be included in your video. I think you're drawing dead with the idea, but that's just my opinion. I offered you nothing but good criticism on your video and you snapping back at me was uncalled for.
 
Much respect for giving something a shot. I don't understand it and I don't think many others will either but good on you for trying to create something. Hopefully the players involved put in as much effort as you have.
 
Ok

Majic said:
It needs to be more sexy for that kind of money....;)
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This is an attempt to make a system for professional players to make money like any other pro player. The idea is simple, if you and a lot of players watch, there will be money flowing to the top players who tend to drive the sport in a lot of ways. If they are making more money than they do now, it may catch the eyes of non players and make the pool business bigger.

I guess I really have to expect comments like this until people realize what is actually possible. If you just wait for something sexy, you will be waiting for a long time and everyone else will be making money except the players.

For the guy who will keep his money for his future, your future will be the same as it is now. I don't really know if this will work, because I really don't know what is in the hearts and minds of most players if there is a real opportunity to do something. It can be shown on paper how this will work. It just takes the thought of: Do I want to buy a couple of beers or do I want to support the sport?

As for Cleary, I know him and I tend to like him. I see him all the time. I just wish he would tell me in person what he thinks.
 
jimM said:
This is an attempt to make a system for professional players to make money like any other pro player. The idea is simple, if you and a lot of players watch, there will be money flowing to the top players who tend to drive the sport in a lot of ways. If they are making more money than they do now, it may catch the eyes of non players and make the pool business bigger.

I guess I really have to expect comments like this until people realize what is actually possible. If you just wait for something sexy, you will be waiting for a long time and everyone else will be making money except the players.

For the guy who will keep his money for his future, your future will be the same as it is now. I don't really know if this will work, because I really don't know what is in the hearts and minds of most players if there is a real opportunity to do something. It can be shown on paper how this will work. It just takes the thought of: Do I want to buy a couple of beers or do I want to support the sport?

As for Cleary, I know him and I tend to like him. I see him all the time. I just wish he would tell me in person what he thinks.
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That guy would be me, but your wrong, the more money I save the rosier my future will be. You stated that by sending you my money it would be an investment in my future. Somehow, I find that rather hard to believe... Good Luck to you!
 
jimM said:
This is an attempt to make a system for professional players to make money like any other pro player. The idea is simple, if you and a lot of players watch, there will be money flowing to the top players who tend to drive the sport in a lot of ways. If they are making more money than they do now, it may catch the eyes of non players and make the pool business bigger.

I guess I really have to expect comments like this until people realize what is actually possible. If you just wait for something sexy, you will be waiting for a long time and everyone else will be making money except the players.

For the guy who will keep his money for his future, your future will be the same as it is now. I don't really know if this will work, because I really don't know what is in the hearts and minds of most players if there is a real opportunity to do something. It can be shown on paper how this will work. It just takes the thought of: Do I want to buy a couple of beers or do I want to support the sport?

As for Cleary, I know him and I tend to like him. I see him all the time. I just wish he would tell me in person what he thinks.
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jimM said:
As for Cleary, I know him and I tend to like him. I see him all the time. I just wish he would tell me in person what he thinks.
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You do see me all the time and you don't talk to me. If you value my input, you can always ask me in person and I'll gladly give you my honest opinion on how to better your videos. Believe it or not, I do this kind of thing for a living on a professional level.
 
I looked at it and have no idea what you're trying to do or want the person to do. Might be ok as just a promo but lacks very little information and I agree the music is not right. If I were you I would listen to every thing cleary is telling you....
 
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