Pool Cheaper Than Golf?

dr9ball said:
Really, how about a $25,000 Black Boar or any of the other top of the line custom cues? Many that start at $1000 and rocket up. I think people spend what they want to and what they have the means to spend.
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Now your getting silly, how many pool players actually own a 25k$ cue? My bet is that most of the people that own the super cues don't even hit balls with them, they are in their collections.

Now I'll bite on your $1000 for a top notch custom. But the fact is when you pay for that cue its going to last past your lifetime, and possibly past your childrens lifetimes. Golf clubs wear out.......


You can buy the best pool table on the market, and have a 1k$ cue for the price of the best set of golf clubs on the market.

-Grey Ghost
 
Too snooty

Pool is cheaper than golf, and that's a good thing, cause I don't play golf! :grin: But, not only is it more "cost effective' to partake of pocket billiards, it's also something the common man (read NOT RICH) can enjoy every day without hating his wallet.

Although I don't imbibe alcoholic beverages, one of my favorite commercials of all time is this guy, and what he stands for! Bet real high that he would play pool rather than golf! :grin:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_OxCHyLLkU&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjlbBtvpvAE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tMLDhA_L5Q&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VGs_rERsQ4&feature=related
 
If golfers were anywhere near as concerned about looks instead of just plain playability, I'm sure they could make clubs that cost more than even a top Black Boar. Donald Trump is a golfer, not a pool player. He could make a 10 million dollar diamond inlaid putter if he gave a crap. Golfers just want ten extra yards and a putter that feels good.

Golf has its own craftsmen considered to be the equivalent of a Black Boar, Kikel,Scruggs,etc... but they are not adding inlays to their work. A 5000 dollar tour putter custom worked on by Scotty Cameron isn't primarily about looking good...its supposed to put the damn ball in the hole when the difference between first and second place is half a million dollars.

Japan seems to be much more of a market for clubs that are hand manufactured with some guru appeal. Miura, Chikara and other japanese clubs are a little pricier but closer to a pool players sense of wanting something special. Special forging houses there are like Ginacues home base...special places for people who want something not off the shelf.

Check out golfwrx.com if you want a golf site for equipment junkies aka club ho's.

I do think its a bit funny that pool is basically saying no to phenolic tips for break cues, jump cues, etc...while golf "the pure game" allows the best players in the world to use 460cc drivers and balls that have outdated all the great old courses unless they were torn up and redone.
 
Me thinks you would spend quite a bit more on the pool equipment than the golf in your scenario. That all depends upon your definition of "best."


greyghost said:
You can buy the best pool table on the market, and have a 1k$ cue for the price of the best set of golf clubs on the market.

-Grey Ghost
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Golf is way more expensive. As far as equipment goes let's just assume that outfitting is about the same:

Cue = set of clubs ($1K - $2K)
Case = Golf bag ($50 - $200)

Of course with golf, you are constantly buying balls, and shoes. Let's say in the long run this would equate to buying your own table.

Golf is more prone to upgrading equipment since there is actual technological improvements in the equipment coupled with the fact that there is more "perceived advances" (marketing) in golf gear. So people buy new clubs way more than people are inclined to buy a new cue.

As far as participating golf cost much more especially if you are talking about playing both with the same frequency. Green fees in my area are $50 and up so if you play golf/pool 2 days a week golf will cost you $400 a month. You can play an awful lot of pool for that amount.

And of course, with pool you can get your own table and not spend anything on table time but very few of us can afford (or have room) for their own golf course - I don't care how big your garage is. :grin-square:

Attending a pro event is probably about the same cost or at least not drastically different. But playing with a pro cost way more in golf. The pro-am at the Chrysler in Palm Springs or the Pebble Beach tournament is probably in the area of $10K - $15K and there's a waiting list. In pool I can have the opportunity to match up with a pro in any number of tournaments simply by entering and paying the entry fee.
 
Fore Rail said:
Me thinks you would spend quite a bit more on the pool equipment than the golf in your scenario. That all depends upon your definition of "best."
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Well you can get a GCV/Diamond for about 4k plus a 1k$ cue =5k

I know quite a few golfers that have spent that much in clubs/bag etc

Not to mention that you can't put a golf course in your home lol...But having a home pool table would obviously cut your playing costs down very much.


Someone said that clubs could cost as much as the Black Boar well they do make them like that.

Most expensive CLUB is a Putter @ $150K Barth & Sons
Most Expensive SET is 14pc @ 35k from Honma

No matter how you cut the cake on average pool is cheaper than golf. If it wasn't then there wouldn't be as highly participated. Put it to you this way if golf was uber cheap and EVERYONE could play then Tiger Woods and everyone else would get his butt busted. The more people you have the better the overall quality of competition/skill. Thats whats so wonderful about pool...its viable for the masses.

Its poor mans golf lol.


literally,
Grey GHost
 
Anything can be what you make it.

Pool can get real expensive if you gamble and lose. Same for golf.



Equipment is the same, the expensive stuff usually is a bit better but its all relitative, and sometimes not worth the difference in price, sometimes it is worth the $$$, the you have to figure how much $$$ your sitting on. Right now I'm not buying cues cause I'm not making $$, when I was in the chips I was buying cues, its just what you make it to be in life.

hope your good JT:)
 
Well, I lost my response & don't feel like typing it all again. I'll hit the high points.

Titleist custom fit, the whole thing(14 clubs + bag if u like) less than $3000. That would be the best comparison to the Diamond + $1K cue - less, but a fair comparison nonetheless. I'm fairly sure a new GCV is a bit more expensive.

IMO people that spend 5 thousand on what's in their bag have too much money, it is just not necessary to play good golf.

You found the most expensive putter & golf clubs made - how bout in the pool world?

I agree that pool is cheaper than golf, that imo was a given from the start.

BTW, how is your golf game? I haven't been able to do anything consistently yet, to evaluate my own.

Have a good evening Grey Ghost.



greyghost said:
Well you can get a GCV/Diamond for about 4k plus a 1k$ cue =5k

I know quite a few golfers that have spent that much in clubs/bag etc

Not to mention that you can't put a golf course in your home lol...But having a home pool table would obviously cut your playing costs down very much.


Someone said that clubs could cost as much as the Black Boar well they do make them like that.

Most expensive CLUB is a Putter @ $150K Barth & Sons
Most Expensive SET is 14pc @ 35k from Honma

No matter how you cut the cake on average pool is cheaper than golf. If it wasn't then there wouldn't be as highly participated. Put it to you this way if golf was uber cheap and EVERYONE could play then Tiger Woods and everyone else would get his butt busted. The more people you have the better the overall quality of competition/skill. Thats whats so wonderful about pool...its viable for the masses.

Its poor mans golf lol.


literally,
Grey GHost
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Fore Rail said:
Well, I lost my response & don't feel like typing it all again. I'll hit the high points.

Titleist custom fit, the whole thing(14 clubs + bag if u like) less than $3000. That would be the best comparison to the Diamond + $1K cue - less, but a fair comparison nonetheless. I'm fairly sure a new GCV is a bit more expensive.

IMO people that spend 5 thousand on what's in their bag have too much money, it is just not necessary to play good golf.

You found the most expensive putter & golf clubs made - how bout in the pool world?

I agree that pool is cheaper than golf, that imo was a given from the start.

BTW, how is your golf game? I haven't been able to do anything consistently yet, to evaluate my own.

Have a good evening Grey Ghost.
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Good points brother, def agree.

My golf game is GREAT.....on a Snooker table.
My golf game on a GOLF COURSE.....is non existent.

Lmao....never played golf before. My dad plays and sometimes I'll chip with him around the yard but thats the extent of my playing (I should pick it up it would be a great way for us to spend more time together, he doesn't shoot pool much anymore his eyes are shot to hell). But being that me and my father have the same name (Keebie) and he shoots about a 90...so by proxy I shoot a 90 too lol....

more like 190:grin:
-Keeb
 
Out here golf club membership for a club like mine is approx $7,000 per year. After that for general play golf rounds there are no green fees but each member has to pay about $22 per person per 18 holes to use a golf cart. My club is by no means the most expensive of the 12 main ones in the country. Membership of the most expensive of the 12 is about $20,000 per annum.

Pay and play on my club's course for non-members varies seasonally throughout the year with a low per 18 holes of about $100 and high of about $200, both inclusive of cart and range balls.

The cheapest course in the country has pay and play at a low of about $80 and a high of about $130 per 18 holes. The most expensive a low of about $130 and a high of about $270 per 18 holes.

A dozen pro v 1 x's are about $85 and a set of nice middle/top range Callaway irons about $2,000. A top of the range driver is about $700

A reasonable pool hall in town will have table time hire in the range $8 to $12 per hour. Cues, balls and even tables for home are about 20% more expensive than the same items in USA. As is the same virtually all over the world, it's very much a down market pastime and I don't even mention to some of the snottier golfers that I love to play pool or that I ever frequent pool halls.

Bowling lanes can be hired at about $11 per game per person. Bowling equipment to purchase is about 20% higher than USA.

For cost absolutely no comparison between the last two and golf. Part of the reason is that nearly all the courses are championship standard courses. I really wish we had some normal unflashy courses but it's just not economical to build and maintain anything other than top of the range ones, partly due to the amount of grass in 18 holes needing on average about 1.2 million gallons of sprinkler water per day, every day, just to keep it alive, virtually all of it coming from desalination plants.

To be honest...though I love the golf here and although I'm sure it all looks great on tv, going down the golf tourism route is probably one of the sillier things the country has invested in, because the bottom line is that it's a niche market and it can't ever compete with the likes of Thailand/Spain/Portugal for value for money for tourist golfers in any large numbers. There is no way that golf here is actually value for money for either residents or tourists.

Anyway.....stop moaning about yer golf costs lol! :smile:

Edit....forgot to mention and Dogs PlayingPool's post just reminded me....the more or less unique and certainly the single best thing about the golf here for me personally is that as a low handicapper in what is quite a small golfing population and with a lot of connections with the pro golfing fraternity I do get plenty opportunities to play with both PGA and European Tour pros in pro-ams (which are always corporately funded here so participation is usually free to the individual) and also in impromptu bounce games as many Pros spend some of their free time here (for the guaranteed weather and the great practice and coaching facilities) and it's not unusual to just hook up with one or two visiting tour pros for a round now and then, especially during what for you guys woud be mid winter but for us is the high season for golf

I can't imagine there are too many other places where hacker nobodies like me would get such chances so maybe I should just be thankful for that and try to set it off as one of the pluses against the many frustrations and bad points of being here.
 
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here is how it worked out for me this yr.
i bought a gc3 had it installed at my house for 2500 included new cloth and balls
my country club bill this yr is about 9000 + carts and food,drinks
so for me golf is much more expensive, also a better game!
 
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