Pool Hall, Pool Bars, and Sports Bars with Pool

CocoboloCowboy

CocoboloCowboy

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Suffer from similar problems John Taffer of BAR RESCUE identifies in his hit TV Show. Honestly Pool Bars, Sports Bars with Pool, or Pool Room Rescue could be another hit show.

Lot of failing Pool businesses because the owner ignore little stuff, and run their venture like some sort of half-a**ed hobby business. Who future is closeint, or going broke.

JMHO
 
The secret to running a successful, or at least partially successful, pool room or sports bar with pool tables is booze, and lot's of it.
Food service is also important, but alcohol sales is the driving force. :smile:
 
Tramp Steamer said:
The secret to running a successful, or at least partially successful, pool room or sports bar with pool tables is booze, and lot's of it.
Food service is also important, but alcohol sales is the driving force. :smile:
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Tramp,

In Vegas the order is somewhat different. First is video poker, second liqour and third is pool tables. Sad but true.

Lyn
 
I know one pool hall back home that has been open well over 20 years without selling a drop of alcohol. It is the last standing pool hall in the City right now. It has held its own against a much bigger pool hall that closed down a few years ago that always had a full liqueur license.

But i think it now has a partial liqueur license in the past year or two.
 
Tramp Steamer said:
The secret to running a successful, or at least partially successful, pool room or sports bar with pool tables is booze, and lot's of it.
Food service is also important, but alcohol sales is the driving force. :smile:
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Not always Tramp. I actually believe that the success of a poolroom is to cater to the regional likings of it's players. My home room does not serve alcohol or food and it is thriving. The owner does sell a wide assortment of cold non alcoholic beverages though You can bring your own booze if you like. Some regulars keep booze behind the counter and some keep their beer in one of his fridges. My family vacations at the Jersey shore every summer and I sneak away to Atlantic City Billiards when I can. Atlantic City Billiards has a strict no alcohol policy and they and they seem pretty busy.
 
CocoboloCowboy said:
Suffer from similar problems John Taffer of BAR RESCUE identifies in his hit TV Show. Honestly Pool Bars, Sports Bars with Pool, or Pool Room Rescue could be another hit show.

Lot of failing Pool businesses because the owner ignore little stuff, and run their venture like some sort of half-a**ed hobby business. Who future is closeint, or going broke.

JMHO
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While your point and premise about why pool halls fail is very likely accurate, Coco, you would do well to not cite John Taffer and Bar Rescue....its a staged reality show with a charismatic blowhard that makes for good TV. Remember, there is no "reality" in Reality TV.

You are right, its the little things that make a business successful.
 
Well actually having seen some of Mr. Taffers sucessful rescues in the Valley of the Sun. I realize it is stage, shot & reshot, and even with Taffers help not every place is sucessful.

The point I am was making is there are a lot of Owners Pool Rooms, Pool Bars, and Sports Bars with Pool Table who run their business for crap.

You wall through the front door to the odor of old coking oil hit you in the nose, YUCK, the places are dirty, nasty bathrooms, and the list of ngatives goes on and on.

Recall a place I use to go on Tuesday Nights for a 9 Ball Tourny, the owner sat is A** in a chair, and drank beer after beer. He gave drink to friends, and late the drunkgot to have a good time. Caught p with him as they closed. Loosing their investment.

Was a nice Bar with 5 Valley Bar Boxes, and we use to have 24-36 Players on Tuesday Nights. In the end they were getting 7 o 8 at most. This place also had monthly tournments. but the owner let the place go to S**t, and drove most people bye bye.
 
I tried talking to my slick Willie's about its lighting and they were bickering over using old bulbs because they just bought a new box,

Penny pinching over light bulbs, nasty stains on the carpet
Cloth full of hair and ashes
Ball never cleaned full of cracks because a ball gets ejected from the table on average ever 5minutes
Watered down soda
Food you don't want to order and the rest

They are just running it till the wheels fall off

It was once double in size a few yrs back they cut it in half
 
I even asked about doing tips for them because there's always a pile of them
Tips coming off, ferrules broke etc
But there guy does em for 3 bucks a pop

i know he puts lepros on them bit is it worth the effort for 3bucks? Not to me
 
Went to the local fast eddies because I don't torture my self enough I guess.

"Antiqued cloth" they make sure and water the greenery via rain and holes in roof. New carpet 2 years ago and installers did half ass job ( at least it's not a trip hazard. Anymore) pocket irons are all falling down horribly. All trash bagged fried food. Watery soft drinks. Hack servers and bartenders.

Was playing one pocket with a friend. I have an amazing sense of smell.....though I was tripping

"Hey bro does my breath just smell like rancid milk even tho I Just brushed my teeth big I got here? Or do you smell that faint odor of gross too?"

Phuk yea I do I thought i was tripping too.

"Hey y'all got something in this huge building that smells like rancid milk"

Unmmm ok


That woman tish who used to run it let it go to pot and it's just a club now with crappy music way too loud. Equipment is horrendous.

6$ all day everyday and league players shoot free.

It is quiet like a church bt 3-5 though which is when generally I appear.

I've always wondered if corporate just uses the place as a write off


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3bucks till 7 then it doubles

And the ac is coooollllld I get in there before the night crowd

I'm just using it for my 14.1fix till I can get a pool table at home
 
Yes the herd will thin itself. (economic evolution in effect)
The good news is, for every business that fails, a new opportunity is created, and those holes don't go unfilled for long in the u.s.

Look at it this way, there is a gigantic portion of the population that can't have or doesn't want a pool table in their own home, but they still want to play. The pool hall will adapt and change but they're not about to go extinct.
 
Honestly if you start out with a nice clean place, work hard keeping it that way, you never have to play catch up.

The one thing many owner do not realize is business need to be run to attract cash customers. The like of 3 or 4 AAA Player who doing noting to put cash in to the cash draw, expectto get free table time, do noting for the bottom line.

Honestly Legaue Operators are another parasite on the owner bottom line. As they get fees each Week, at Season Start, but have no here the over head the room or bar owner has.

Business is real simple, You subtract month outgo from income. If you income is higher you are making money. If the out go is higher you need help.
 
My thing is if you don't care about pool you aren't going to cater to it even if you have a table. If you're someone who wants to play the game and does play the game then you already know what kind of joint it is to begin with so expectations should only be so high for certain places. I've been to lots of places that had tables but I would rather sit and drink than attempt to play on whatever junk they called a table. Also, what constitutes a true pool hall is going to vary based on who you talk to. Take Boston Billiards in Nashua NH...this is a nice place with nice gold crown tables but I would venture to guess that the "purists" are all nostalgic for a dim, dark, smoky hall with no booze, no music, no nothing but money changing hands and balls being knocked around...For me, I think a modern hall should have it all, service, food, good tables, and good beer and booze....Boston Billiards is a fine example of such a place. I know there are others around and they are very successful.
 
beneath_the_sur said:
All I need is that first 20k or so to open my own place :)
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IMHO 20K would maybe be a start to going to a real bank with business plan to get real money to do it right. Honestly 20K would not even get you first, last, security & build lease. Plus decorating, painting tables, beer & liguor inventory &liquor license.

Rule of law is that most new business fold in 12 months,

What do you think you could accomplish with 20K?
 
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beneath_the_sur said:
3bucks till 7 then it doubles

And the ac is coooollllld I get in there before the night crowd

I'm just using it for my 14.1fix till I can get a pool table at home
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I have a 9' Olhausen you can have for free. Not kidding. You come down to League City with a truck and break it down and take it away. Bring some friends. Light, cue stand, wall rack, extra sticks, rack, Aramith balls, all the fixins included. It could use new cloth. Come and get it my MMA buddy. :)

PM me if you're interested.
 
Pm sent, I'll take that for sure!!



I've got my old simonis 330 rapide from my Gabriel's I took off, been saving it for a pool table,
Super stupid hella fast Pool Table Hah can't wait
 
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CocoboloCowboy said:
IMHO 20K would maybe be a start to going to a real bank with business plan to get real money to do it right. Honestly 20K would not even get you first, last, security & build lease. Plus decorating, painting tables, beer & liguor inventory &liquor license.

Rule of law is that most new business fold in 12 months,

What do you think you could accomplish with 20K?
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No clue
But I'm a go getter
 
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