Pool in need of another great ambassador

Celophanewrap

Call me Grace
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Need to remember: women's pool PAID to have it's events on ESPN.

Just coz you see something there does not mean is isn't a financial failure.

Yes, but they had money to do that. Most people will tune in to watch a pretty girl
shoot a ball. It probably would have helped if they had an American winner from time to time.
t became like the WNBA or Pro Skiing events, mainly done for the benefit of the European
audience and Euro sponsors. There hasn't been an American woman in the last decade or
two that could win any of these events. So the Euros and Asian sponsors don't mind putting
in money because they are successful in those countries and there's a much better chance
you'll see an Asian or European winner. The men just aren't much fun to watch if you're not a pool player
 
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Baby Huey

AzB Silver Member
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Before we assign an "AMBASSADORSHIP," let's find the person first. By that I mean we need someone who already has the goodness and game in them to promote our sport. SVB is a great player but lacks the personality to promote the game. Jeanette Lee has that persona as well as Jeremy Jones are two I can think of who possess those skills to help promote and should be in consideration for an Ambassadorship and there may be others. We just need to find them. Being a great player does not necessarily put you in the running.
 

Positively Ralf

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I think the whole, "we need to get the amateur players in the APA, TAP, etc. leagues to tune in and know the pros" is a BS argument. There are enough serious amateurs in country as well as casual players who know the professional scene. It's those people who need to be converted into money making customers. forget the ones who play just to drink a beer on league night.
 

336Robin

Multiverse Operative
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In my way of thinking "the guy" has to have money to set things up to
make players into a product and sell that product or there is little that's going to work.

You can't find 20 people to agree to invest in anything without something being found
bad with the program. I don't see players following anyone nor Amateurs agreeing to support them.

If the guy shows up with a plan he would have to work his ass off to present the plan from start to finish and still it would have problems with funding.




Before we assign an "AMBASSADORSHIP," let's find the person first. By that I mean we need someone who already has the goodness and game in them to promote our sport. SVB is a great player but lacks the personality to promote the game. Jeanette Lee has that persona as well as Jeremy Jones are two I can think of who possess those skills to help promote and should be in consideration for an Ambassadorship and there may be others. We just need to find them. Being a great player does not necessarily put you in the running.
 

Brookeland Bill

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Before we assign an "AMBASSADORSHIP," let's find the person first. By that I mean we need someone who already has the goodness and game in them to promote our sport. SVB is a great player but lacks the personality to promote the game. Jeanette Lee has that persona as well as Jeremy Jones are two I can think of who possess those skills to help promote and should be in consideration for an Ambassadorship and there may be others. We just need to find them. Being a great player does not necessarily put you in the running.

Pool needs a player with the image of a Rory McElroy or Roger Federer. Someone who makes a good appearance, well spoken and a winner. Sponsors are not going to support a sport where the player looks like someone the cat drug in to your home or has a lot of baggage. I just don’t see that person on the radar. I think Styer or Filler could play that role. They are very good players, young and display a wholesome image.
 

CocoboloCowboy

Cowboys are my hero's
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Before we assign an "AMBASSADORSHIP," let's find the person first. By that I mean we need someone who already has the goodness and game in them to promote our sport. SVB is a great player but lacks the personality to promote the game. Jeanette Lee has that persona as well as Jeremy Jones are two I can think of who possess those skills to help promote and should be in consideration for an Ambassadorship and there may be others. We just need to find them. Being a great player does not necessarily put you in the running.

Finding the person to be Ambassador is going to be tough.
 

336Robin

Multiverse Operative
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Luke Riches has been mentioned more than once in this thread....

Matchroom could put Pool on the stage but will that cure what's wrong? Doubtfully . We have an American problem that is as deep as the grassroots here on our soil.

Inviting promoters in will not fix it at the bottom.

 
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Island Drive

Otto/Dads College Roommate/Cleveland Browns
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It's the other 9 million I'm talking about.

Having supported the Camel pro tour, The PCA tour and one other oh yeah....Don Mackey Ugh, nothing in the past has worked....period.

To be successful, it has to be a business, run by a business man who's honest with integrity....period.
 

Boxcar

AzB Silver Member
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Having supported the Camel pro tour, The PCA tour and one other oh yeah....Don Mackey Ugh, nothing in the past has worked....period.

To be successful, it has to be a business, run by a business man who's honest with integrity....period.

I completely agree with you!!!!!!!!!!!!! And even then, the odds of success as a business are far from a lock.

Pool is so individualized that you can't 5 guys to agree on the best chalk, much less the best player, or the best........anything.

Pool is perfect all by itself, just the way it is. From teaching your daughter to shoot on the table in the garage, to your first win, to a good score, to watching yourself get old. Seeing life through the eyes of the game of pool is enough.
 

garczar

AzB Silver Member
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Pool, at least in the U.S. anyway, still has that smoky, back-room gambling image. You mention pool to most sports fans and you get a shoulder shrudge at best. Many have tried changing this over the year with little success. Me? I say embrace it and go forward. There are casino's on every corner these days so why hide from the gambling aspect?? If i was starting a pro tour the first thing i would do would be to approach casinos as possible tour locales. You're never going to get away from the gambling image so why not capitalize on it?
 

Boxcar

AzB Silver Member
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Making Pool monolithic would be about as easy as stacking BBs or pushing a rope. Pool is a hundred different things to a hundred different people.

I don't ever want to see pool turned into some kind of yuppie freak show. I don't care if "The Pros" have to eat at MacDonald's, that's their choice, and nobody is holding a gun to their heads. 99.9 percent of all the people who play pool do it because they love it and hate it and love it, all at the same time.

I celebrate the game. Late at night when my child bride is sound asleep, I'll go out to the garage in my skivvies and shoot pool. I am the giant, great and still.................it's magic.
 

Dan Harriman

One of the best in 14.1
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oh by the way

Before we assign an "AMBASSADORSHIP," let's find the person first. By that I mean we need someone who already has the goodness and game in them to promote our sport. SVB is a great player but lacks the personality to promote the game. Jeanette Lee has that persona as well as Jeremy Jones are two I can think of who possess those skills to help promote and should be in consideration for an Ambassadorship and there may be others. We just need to find them. Being a great player does not necessarily put you in the running.

I really was in the race.
 

Scott Lee

AzB Silver Member
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Mizerak lost his Miller Lite job because he was a complete asshat in public... period!

Scott Lee
2019 PBIA Instructor of the Year
Director, SPF National Pool School Tour

Yeah, but Miz lost his miller lite job, he said something very negative about women.
 

Sharivari

AzB Silver Member
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I know this is a bit of an unpopular opinion, but I think Filler could be it. Of course not because of his personality and behavior, but because of the massive talent he has. Maybe even a antihero.
 

sjm

Older and Wiser
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I know this is a bit of an unpopular opinion, but I think Filler could be it. Of course not because of his personality and behavior, but because of the massive talent he has. Maybe even a antihero.

Your opinion is popular with me.

Filler is the most electrifying player we've seen in many years. He is interested in every single game played on a pool table and is a workaholic and passionate student of the game. Like him or not, and I for one keep finding more and more reasons to like him, he is very exciting to watch.

It is the responsibility of the game's powerbrokers to market and showcase this once in a generation talent to the max. Matchroom always used Earl Strickland to sell pool to both his fans and his detractors, and I'm betting they'll do the same with Filler.
 
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