Pool, Poker & Pain: Won't B'Long Now

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A little birdie landed on my porch this morning and told me that Doug Stanley just wrote 13 episodes, completed a budget and got the ball rolling on corporate branding, marketing, etc.

There will be a story soon in USA TODAY, CNN, NEWSWEEK and over 100 dot-coms with the title, "THE NEXT SUPER HIT REALITY SHOW." I was fortunate enough to read a sneak-peek of this article and it's exactly what pool needs: a high-energy, exciting, spinning back kick in the azz.

Many of us remember what The Color of Money did for pool in general. In today's high-tech world with social media and the internet, an EXCITING pool, poker and MMA reality show has the potential to launch pool into outer-space.

I've been tracking PPP for a while now because I definitely see its potential. Both poker and MMA are the hottest things out there right now with tons of money. Why shouldn't pool ride the coat tails?

Keep an eye on these companies, as they're involved in the ramp-up:
www.brand-inentertainment.com
www.ridgelineent.com
www.celbritybrandingagency.com

I know there have been a lot of haters with this PPP concept, most saying it'll never fly or poker and MMA will "hurt pool's image." Fact is-- pool's image was never great which is why it never had the funding of a major american sport. When you do something for 50 years in the pool industry and after 50 years--- you're hardly where you started--- it's time to try something new and different.

Anyways, I'm sure the "PPP Naysayers" will whistle a different tune when this show launches and people give a crap about pool again (today's younger generation). When PPP is successful, the knockers will be like, "What do you mean, I was rooting for that show all along!"

Keep grinding, Blair. You're almost there.

Dave
 
This is great news, I had heard about the show about a year ago and the rumor was one of the guys I've playdc with from around here was going to be on the show. After that I didn't hear anything about it and just assumed it got cancelled.
 
How cool is that?! Man, this is *GREAT* news! I'm standing by and hoping to read more about this as the project develops. :cool:
 
Thanks for posting up Dave. I too have been enthusiastic about this venture. The naysayers here are a dime a dozen, it doesn't seem to matter what the topic is, many just are Debby Downers. Whatever.

This appears to be really good news. To see the names and media behind this, having 13 episodes written and having "completed the budget" (not sure what that means, hopefully it means "100% funded") - well, that's strong news; stronger than I might have expected.

Kick ass Blair! Best of fortune moving forward!

Matt
 
Reading the website, I noticed Dennis Hatch is now out. What a shame. He would have really been cool in this spot! :cool:

The only pool player's name I recognize is Tony Crosby. Oh, Tony, please protect those beautiful baby blues! :(

ETA: Geezy peezy, somebody needs to help Blair with that website. It is slow as a turtle.
 
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I'm completely baffled...maybe nothing new.

Can someone explain to me how this is good for professional pool?

Efren three rail kicked the nine ball in to beat me at pool but when we get in the ring I'm going to knock his teeth out.....OH WAIT.....never mind.
 
Personally, I think it's ridiculous...

Can someone explain to me how this is good for professional pool?

Efren three rail kicked the nine ball in to beat me at pool but when we get in the ring I'm going to knock his teeth out.....OH WAIT.....never mind.

But hell, things more ridiculous have become popular on tv, so maybe it will help pool. The problem I see with it is that unless you have top pool players, all it does is promote some short stops or worse.

Jaden
 
Hmmm

Can someone explain to me how this is good for professional pool?

Efren three rail kicked the nine ball in to beat me at pool but when we get in the ring I'm going to knock his teeth out.....OH WAIT.....never mind.

Cause, just maybe, pool might get a little recognition, folks might pick up a cue and go play at the local pool hall, buy a cue, spend a few bucks. How could that be a bad thing. Pool gets ZERO exposure in the US. Now it will be highlighted on a (hopefully) successful TV show.

Can't wait....I mean, if folks are willing to watch the boring and dysfunctional lives of rich chicks on TV, this is gonna be huge !!
 
Shhhhh…..Did you hear that?

I think it was RALPH GREENLEAF, WILLIE HOPPE, IRVING CRANE, STEVE MIZERAK, WILLIE MOSCONI, JOE BALSIS, LUTHER LASSITER, JIMMY MOORE and CISERO MURPHY collectively weeping from their graves.
 
Maybe it's me.....I just don't get it. That's like saying Earl guest staring on "Jersey Shore" will make the game popular again....now you'll have to wrestle to see whose next up on table 5.
 
I think it was RALPH GREENLEAF, WILLIE HOPPE, IRVING CRANE, STEVE MIZERAK, WILLIE MOSCONI, JOE BALSIS, LUTHER LASSITER, JIMMY MOORE and CISERO MURPHY collectively weeping from their graves.

They're only weeping because they know they couldn't win the format. If they're bawling, it's because pool died when they died.

As someone above me said, if this means a wave of new people show up at pool rooms and spends $$$$---- it's not a bad thing. Pool needs to be interesting again and if it means forcing a player to settle it in a cage after being tied after a pool set and heads-up poker set---- then let it be so.
 
If Earl starred in J.S. Im sure it would be good for Pool, any positive exposure Pool can get in the US is a good thing!!:thumbup:
donny
 
Reading the website, I noticed Dennis Hatch is now out. What a shame. He would have really been cool in this spot! :cool:

The only pool player's name I recognize is Tony Crosby. Oh, Tony, please protect those beautiful baby blues! :(

ETA: Geezy peezy, somebody needs to help Blair with that website. It is slow as a turtle.

Good Job Blain! Talk about a persistent effort. I remember meeting Blain several years ago at the DCC and listening to him talk about PP&P. Remember any publicity is good publicity!

Danny Smith is a good young player with a some personality. I had the chance to watch him match up in Olathe a few months back and he can get there on the pool part.
 
Hmmmmm

I think it was RALPH GREENLEAF, WILLIE HOPPE, IRVING CRANE, STEVE MIZERAK, WILLIE MOSCONI, JOE BALSIS, LUTHER LASSITER, JIMMY MOORE and CISERO MURPHY collectively weeping from their graves.

Or smiling, thinking pool will have a national audience and maybe, just maybe, somebody will mention these greats and "we" won't be the only folks who have actually heard of them !!

Until you come up with a better idea or a huge amount of cash, you might as well jump on board and go for the ride. Pool has nothing to lose, and everything to gain. It's a freaking free roll !!
 
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ONETIME FLORIDA KEYS NINE BALL CHAMP BLAIR THEIN COMBINES THE ACTION PACKED WORLDS OF POOL, POKER AND MIXED MARTIAL ARTS (MMA) TO CREATE THE NEXT SUPER HIT REALITY SHOW “POOL POKER & PAIN”


By Jonathan Widran

There’s really no way to sugar coat it--Blair Thein’s extraordinary concept for the next super hit reality TV show begins and ends with balls.

The onetime Florida Keys Nine Ball champion began playing pool at age eight, was hustling games by 14 and for years has been a master of the martial arts of submission fighting and Muay Thai. At one point, he was renowned as one of the toughest pool players in the world and he was in so many fights he earned the nickname “Bruce Lee Blair.”

Now he’s making sports and entertainment history combining three of the world’s most dynamic, action packed sports on “Pool, Poker & Pain,” a show featuring multi-talented athletes showing what they’ve got at the billiards table, the poker table and—to blow off pent-up steam and maybe take revenge on those who just beat them—Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) combat in a cage he dubs the “Circle of Pain.”

The only reality show to date that features the high stakes energy of the pool room environment, “Pool, Poker & Pain”—produced by Thein’s company Team Believe Promotions--will have 16-20 multi-talented athlete contestants gathering in Florida and boarding Thein’s decked out, sponsorship rich “Hustle Bus,” which will cruise across the country hitting famous pool rooms, casinos and famous MMA gyms. They will end up in Las Vegas by the fourth or fifth episode, living in a mansion where they will have crash course training in all three disciplines with some of the world’s top coaches. The gaming and combat action takes place at a large nearby facility called the “Pool, Poker & Pain” compound. Two contestants at a time will go straight from the pool table to the poker table and then into the cage.

“While sometimes there is only one winner on reality competition shows,” he says, “we’re going to have more than one, with a lot of highs and lows. Growing up in Florida, my dad, brothers, sisters and I lived for a time in a green school bus, so doing a show that partly takes place in the ‘Hustle Bus’ is like coming full circle in my life.”

In his quest to further develop “Pool, Poker & Pain” and bring it to television, Thein cultivated key partnerships with two prominent creative and marketing forces, Brand In Entertainment and Emmy winning (and multiple Emmy nominated) cinematographer Doug Stanley of Ridgeline Entertainment.

Brand In Entertainment (BIE) brings over 35 years of mainstream advertising experience, along with an impressive roster of clients who appreciate the effectiveness of brand integration. CEO Rolfe Auerbach says, “Brand-in Entertainment believes that the opportunity to profoundly change the nature of three sports – Poker, Pool and Martial Arts – in one project – opens the door to a vast array of viewers and ultimately to new buyers for the clients who integrate their products and services into ‘Pool, Poker & Pain.’ Once involved in this manner, these clients will become part of the series plotline – and cannot be TiVo’d out. Additional spot advertising they buy in the series will serve to enhance their efforts to reach their consumer.”

“Pool, Poker & Pain” Executive Producer Doug Stanley’s keen eye has been a huge part of the success of “Deadliest Catch,” the popular Discovery Channel documentary/reality series about life aboard fishing vessels in the Bering sea during crab fishing season. The six year old show currently airs in over 150 countries.

Thein first met Stanley when he was a guest speaker for “The Perfect Pitch,” an event hosted by TV industry veterans Mark and Jeannie Simon in which they teach creative people how to pitch TV show concepts. Appropriately enough, The Simons’ company is called “Sell Your TV Concept Now.”

“I was a fan of Doug’s show,” says Thein, “in which crab fishermen captured the attention of the world. Even before the event, I decided to write to him and tell him about my ‘Pool, Poker & Pain’ concept, and he called me immediately to talk about it. I was already working with Brand In. Doug called me immediately and has since been an integral part of developing the show. His expertise in production and character development has been invaluable.

“The reason I went after Doug is because I was always impressed with the toughness of his production crew in capturing the lives of the fishermen on Deadliest Catch,” he adds. “I didn’t want a typical Hollywood union crew working on my show. I’m very hardcore and am willing to put in 12-16 hour workdays. The show has a lot of dynamics and needs guys that are tough to help create and capture every second of the action.”

Thein believes that Stanley’s nuts and bolts TV talents, combined with his own promotion skills will make “Pool, Poker & Pain” the next super hit reality show. He also gives special thanks to www.insidepoolmag.com, www.nycgrind.com, family, friends and the PPP team for helping him bring his vision to this point.

Now about those other “balls”…For Thein, creating and developing “Pool, Poker & Pain” has been a labor of love with a deep learning curve over the past seven years. Believing that the final step of making this incredible reality series a weekly TV reality is a matter of timing, luck and guts, he is seeking a network and top brand sponsors that believe in the show—plus “one lucky aggressive investor with some balls that wants to be involved on the ground floor of this worldwide sports explosion.”

He’s not shy about going after the as yet undiscovered man who will make the difference: a young millionaire, perhaps from the dot com world, who is willing to invest $10 million for 25% ownership of the show. He’s also going after athlete celebs and team CEOs from the NFL, NBA, NHL, Major League Baseball and NASCAR. Part of the concept he is selling is his larger international vision for Season 2 of Pool, Poker and Pain, which will pit Team USA vs. Team Asia. There are also multiple branding opportunities available for sponsors.

Soon after Thein began telling his fellow pool players about his concept for “Pool, Poker & Pain,” Billiards Magazine did a feature article on him called “Pool Player Looking for a Fight.” While he was still making a comfortable living as a pool player, the former Navy man and asset protection investigator knew he had a powerful idea that could open doors to a career in reality TV.

“It was a personal crisis time in my life,” he says, “and I wanted to focus my energies into something creative and positive. I went to one of the country’s biggest tournaments, the Valley Forge Super Billard Expo, and brought handmade posters about my original concept, which didn’t involve poker. I called it the ‘Ultimate Billiard Extreme Challenge’ and would combine pool and MMA. I had a reputation in that community for pool and fighting people when they were sore losers and wanted to rip me off. I put up these posters everywhere and got a huge buzz going about my idea. I met a lot of people there who were showing interest as possible contestants.

From the beginning, Thein knew he had the makings of a hit reality show that would shock the world, and like the street fighter he is, he has been willing to plow through any setback that came his way. Looking back, he can see that various junctures when he thought he was ready to roll were ultimately not the right time. But now, in 2011, he’s ready to go the distance and win big.

“That original concept and what is now ‘Pool, Poker & Pain’ have a strong emphasis on gambling and allow players to creatively and definitively settle those grudge matches that usually arise during or after a game of pool or poker,” adds Thein. “Our contestants will have a legitimate chance to win big money while achieving redemption for their losses by having the opportunity to go into the cage and kick some ass! It’s been an interesting road securing our contestants. We need skilled pool and poker players who are willing to fight. There are big UFC fighters who have contacted me but they can’t play pool very well. ‘Pool, Poker & Pain’ is creating a new breed of multi-talented athlete. Superstar or sucker, the time for talk is over. Get in the cage, guys. It’s action time.”
 
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Too bad this guy is a little over the hill. He prob would have had a solid chance of winning everything :)
 
I got my first taste of Pool & Pain the other weekend during the Desert Classic Tour Event here in Phoenix. Stingers Bar was the location and it just so happened to be UFC night with Shogun getting taken down.

I was playing George Teyechea (Gum9ball) in the final 12 trying to get to the finals and all the meatheads that just got done watching some UFC were all drunk and roided up and ready to brawl. They continued to walk up to our tables, move tables and chairs against the table, knock into us and stumble around. I had multiple conversations with these meatheads and got the response of "I don't give a F*#K about pool, I can do whatever the F*#K I want!"

I had to overcome the ridiculous childlike behaviors and soon a 4-0 deficit to come back and win that match hill-hill to get into the money and day 2.

It was super painful!!!

I wish them the best, but when you combine 3 completely different games you are going to have to sacrifice the best players in each of the games. You are going to have 2nd rate pool players with 2nd rate poker skills that like to brawl. I'll give it a shot and cross my fingers!
 
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