Pool Schools.....

i look at it like this, some will get more from lessions than others, and also what is the content of the lession,

Scott works on fundementals-something I wish I had many many years ago. Scott is a great instructor for that and i recommend him to just about everyone, THE FOLLOWING IS JUST MY OPINION: he is most valuable to players who have 1-3 years experience, the key word is most, I have been playing well over 20 years and I still learned something and it was worth while, but I didnt get as much out of it as I would have after only playing 2 years of serious pool. I will take more lessions from Scott and the other night I met a guy at the pool room who is the most dedicated new player I have seen in a Long long time,, he shoots practice drills, 6 nights a week, is very dedicated and has high goals, I told him about Scott because he has some real bad habits that need to be broken NOW or they will haunt him for along time, I told him about Scott and said I would pay for half his lession, I would see Scott the same day and I know Scott would take care of me, everyone wins.


But there is alot more to playing winning pool than fundmentals alone, I learned alot from a old school player about stalling, he was among the best in the world at playing just good enough to win, which is an important skill if your goal is to make $$$,

I dont know a thing about league play and have nothing to comment on it, I do talk alot but only about things i know about, I'm the worst tournment player there is.

Solid fundmentals and playing good, watching your game improve is fun and I like that, and Scott teaches that, damn good I'll add too. But there is alot more to pool than just fundmentals, however solid fundmentals is THE most important aspect of being a player, so yeah Scott is great, better for less experienced players but still important for players of all speeds except SVB , Alex and 10 more guys. So if your not on the list of those 10 guys go see him.

Scott as far as I know dosent teach anything about being a action player, like how to matching or playing on the lemon. Like the coin flip thing you get a good read on someones willingness to gamble just by seeing if they will flip a coin for $$$, their answere gives me a good read on them, there is alot more to it than that. This is just one example of the aspect of pool lessions that just dont involve playing pool but winning pool, having said all that BS Crown City Cory shoots my nuts off like I never picked up a cue in my life.

Speaking for myself I have mostly been taking games where I have the worst of it and i'm loser the last few months, I never really took chances very often, I would if I made a score then I would step up-thats a great way to become a seasoned player(using scots fundmentals), now I do more often and have won in spots but overall i'm loser, I had a shot to win some $$$ the other night but played terrible-no excuses, i didnt rattle i just played bad real bad dont know why it wasnt the $$$, i'm going to keep taking the worst of it-most of the time, instead of looking for even games, for about a year I was a lock artist and a good one at that, i needed the $$$ and I learned to play just good enough to win, so thats over now I need to learn how to win a losing game, Playing Cory isnt gonna help that becasuse he plays ALOT better than me, and for what ever reason I play bad against him, I can win more games playing better players than him, for what ever reason he just brings out the worst in me, but that wont stop me from trying.

All this ties into Scott with out solid fundmentals in 99% of pool players, gamblers, etc must have to have a foundation to be who they are and Scott is the man to help create a player.
 
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Eric...I work with all ability players, from beginners to pros. Even with pros, we STILL check out their fundamentals, and give them our opinions. With a pro we may focus more on specific parts of the setup/delivery process (such as timing, a PEP, and/or their break). I am certainly capable of teaching someone how to gamble effectively, as it did it myself for many years. Both Randyg and I will give 'gambling lessons', if that's what the student is looking for. Most aren't! I will NEVER EVER teach someone how to "play on the lemon" (even though I could), as that goes against my own beliefs. Thanks for the kind words, and let's set something up with your friend, for when I am in Vegas next.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Fatboy said:
Scott as far as I know dosent teach anything about being a action player, like how to matching or playing on the lemon.
 
Fatboy said:
Playing Cory isnt gonna help that becasuse he plays ALOT better than me, and for what ever reason I play bad against him, I can win more games playing better players than him, for what ever reason he just brings out the worst in me, but that wont stop me from trying.

Little did you know that I do my Voodoo prayers and put the whammy on you before I even screw my cue together--hidden truths (like a riddle) ;)

The gypsies I used to beat up on when I was a teen called it "prikaza" (SP?). In english it'd be "Jinx".

WHAMMY! :D

Back on topic, for beginner to intermediate players, a pool school (group) would be awesome. A great learning experience! For advanced, expert and professional level players only one on one will do. Pro's need a coach more than a teacher.
 
PickPocket said:
Ok So I've been playing for a while now and have seen the adds for lots of "Pool Schools" or courses. any feedback on these? Have Pro's used them? (Before they were Pro?) :confused:

let me know what ya know!
Pool school is great for all levels. You will learn what you are ready to learn. This means you will probably need to attend school as you move from beginner, intermediate, advanced, etc. This is exactly the same as any other learning endeavor.

FWIW, pool school is a great in that it condenses the learning curve into a shorter time. Of course, you can learn everything you will learn at pool school on your own - but it might take you 2 years. Whereas, in pool school, you might cut off a substantial amount of that time. And, you might learn things that would never present themselves in 2 years of playing. So you get that additional benefit.

The down side is that many different topics are presented and are typically stacked on top of each other. There is no way to digest all of them in the shortened time frame for pool school. You MUST take the fundamental principles and apply them after you leave school. Then you must take the materials provided to "remember" the nuances that you will invariably forget. And you WILL have to go back for more. This is so because you will not be able to grasp the relevance of certain techniques until you master the underlying concepts.

Overall, it is worth the time and money spent.

-td
 
poolplayer2093 said:
i just can't focus on making the shot when i'm thinking about where my eyes are supposed do be looking at.

I'm surprised that after having lessons with Scott, you are expecting this to happen. I know Scott teaches you NOT to be thinking about your eyes or your stroke when you are shooting. You focus on those things ONLY when you are practicing. If you practice those things properly, you won't have to think about them when you are shooting. You train yourself through perfect practice to do things the correct way. When you are shooting...you don't think about anything except the shot at hand.

Think before shooting, then shoot without thinking!

Steve
 
I guess I will chime in... Pool School was great, I went to one of Randy's 3 day clinics and left feeling good And very inspired to learn and practice my new found lessons. After a day or two I started to think about the lessons I had learned and that I had already learned them here on AZ. Hmm what was the difference.... Huge difference of course you know what to do, but do you really know what you are doing wrong and how to correct it? Get in front of 10 other people and show that roll model stoke off the rail while trying to remembering different things you were just taught. Anyways I guess my point is anyone can use a coach regardless of your level or what you think you know, a qualified second set of eyes helps a lot. I did a follow up with Scott a hear and a half later that made me realize how much a didn't learn the first time. There are more reasons for the mother drills than you think and the more you understand the things you are practicing the easier it is to Taylor you own practice regiment. Good luck, and regardless of how much work it is take the time and really learn your eye pattern, Thanks Scott
 
pooltchr said:
I'm surprised that after having lessons with Scott, you are expecting this to happen. I know Scott teaches you NOT to be thinking about your eyes or your stroke when you are shooting. You focus on those things ONLY when you are practicing. If you practice those things properly, you won't have to think about them when you are shooting. You train yourself through perfect practice to do things the correct way. When you are shooting...you don't think about anything except the shot at hand.

Think before shooting, then shoot without thinking!

Steve


i've been trying to do that for years. still no luck
 
Glad to have helped you Brandon! I'll be back up your way in about a month! Hope to see you then!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

SoundWaves said:
I guess I will chime in... Pool School was great, I went to one of Randy's 3 day clinics and left feeling good And very inspired to learn and practice my new found lessons. After a day or two I started to think about the lessons I had learned and that I had already learned them here on AZ. Hmm what was the difference.... Huge difference of course you know what to do, but do you really know what you are doing wrong and how to correct it? Get in front of 10 other people and show that roll model stoke off the rail while trying to remembering different things you were just taught. Anyways I guess my point is anyone can use a coach regardless of your level or what you think you know, a qualified second set of eyes helps a lot. I did a follow up with Scott a hear and a half later that made me realize how much a didn't learn the first time. There are more reasons for the mother drills than you think and the more you understand the things you are practicing the easier it is to Taylor you own practice regiment. Good luck, and regardless of how much work it is take the time and really learn your eye pattern, Thanks Scott
 
CrownCityCorey said:
Little did you know that I do my Voodoo prayers and put the whammy on you before I even screw my cue together--hidden truths (like a riddle) ;)

The gypsies I used to beat up on when I was a teen called it "prikaza" (SP?). In english it'd be "Jinx".

WHAMMY! :D


He aint lieing about that, thinking back over the years and all the players I have played you and one other guy(pruse snatcher) are the only 2 guys that I just cant seem to catch a gear playing, the other guy was a B player, funny how that works, ......but you will get played again, Good Luck in the Swanee torunment,

I met Jay once at College biliards he was a cool guy and its a great thing that the memorial tournment is still going I hope it keeps going forever. Someone who I cant name told me alot of stories about Jay and I learned alot about him in the past few months, WOW is all I can say, I was watching one of his matches this past week in la on a DVD I have.
 
Scott Lee said:
Eric...I work with all ability players, from beginners to pros. Even with pros, we STILL check out their fundamentals, and give them our opinions. With a pro we may focus more on specific parts of the setup/delivery process (such as timing, a PEP, and/or their break). I am certainly capable of teaching someone how to gamble effectively, as it did it myself for many years. Both Randyg and I will give 'gambling lessons', if that's what the student is looking for. Most aren't! I will NEVER EVER teach someone how to "play on the lemon" (even though I could), as that goes against my own beliefs. Thanks for the kind words, and let's set something up with your friend, for when I am in Vegas next.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com


I agree that a tune up once in a while no matter what your level except the top 10 guys is 100% necessary-I just cant see SVB or Alex needing much help the way they have been playing thats all, but there are another 1,000,000 people who do so I like your chances;) .

I aint proud of playing on the lemon, but at one point in my life I had no choice, I didnt learn it playing either, I learne it on the rail from a notable player who has passed away, I wont say who as it dosent matter. Its nothing to be proud of, but it does take along time to learn how to kick it into gear at just the right time. Because playing weak for a while can keep you weak. One thing I have done with this ability is make who i'm playing play weaker(not cory or someone that strong) but someone who might play a ball better than me, i'm good at making them weak, thats how to out run the nuts and those tactics are similar to playing on the lemon, if everyone thinks what i just said is crazy thats cool, but I have won more $$$ after I learned that than I did the 10 years prior, who taught me that disnt play like Crown City Cory but probably the 7 ball below him, he was stronger then Jay Helfert. He taught me alot.:cool:

Back to Scott....I 100% endorse him. and no I get paid for endorsing him, :rolleyes: :)
 
Scott Lee said:
Glad to have helped you Brandon! I'll be back up your way in about a month! Hope to see you then!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Thanks for the reply, I'm not so sure I'm ready for any more teachin' yet. If you are coming near by I would love to get together with you to play some, I'll be glad to sponsor table time and some dinner if your interested.
 
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I quit playing for 25 years and just started to play again. I knew I needed help with fundamentals so I contacted Karen Corr and played with her for 4hours at Pete Fusco's room in Trevose, PA. She is a great teacher and you can't beat one on one instruction. After I played for 6 months I was able to run 50 balls in straight pool and wanted to learn moe about pattern play and I contacten Jim rempe and played at his home. Jim probably has more straight pool knowledge than anyone on the face of the earth. What an experience. I guess my point is that I believe one on one instruction is the way to go. If anyone is interested in learning from Karen or Jimmy PM me and I will give there contact info.
 
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