WOW! I'M putting words in your mouth??? If you think pros can't be wrong, then what in the world is your problem with people correcting pros??? The only other possibility is that you think being a pro is some kind of royalty and us mere peasants are not worthy of correcting them. And, I hate arguing. But, I hate misinformation even more.
Pool teaching philosophy
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WOW! I'M putting words in your mouth??? If you think pros can't be wrong, then what in the world is your problem with people correcting pros??? The only other possibility is that you think being a pro is some kind of royalty and us mere peasants are not worthy of correcting them. And, I hate arguing. But, I hate misinformation even more.
Because most of the people on here "correcting pros" do not have the credentials to do so Neil. Its armchair quarterback mentality, and a big reason why the pro players who come on here leave soon after. Too many know it alls who dont know wtf they are talking about.
Again putting words in my mouth or making assumptions about what I think or mean are nothing but fallacies. If you question what I mean, ask. ill try to explain it a different way. Past that you do in fact like to argue, whether it is what you believe to be misinformation or not.
Chuck
I just experienced lessons in the last couple months from Geno, Scott and Lee. What a treat of fate!
I'm a fairly decent player, not great. anyway, having had back to back to back lessons - initially scattered my mind.
It's up to me to dissect what works for me. Nature, nurture - whatever. What works for you?
One says pendulum, one says drop, one says do the hokey pokey. What works for YOU? Drop the balls, it's more upstairs than down IMO.
I'm a fairly decent player, not great. anyway, having had back to back to back lessons - initially scattered my mind.
It's up to me to dissect what works for me. Nature, nurture - whatever. What works for you?
One says pendulum, one says drop, one says do the hokey pokey. What works for YOU? Drop the balls, it's more upstairs than down IMO.
You completely mixing things up here. 99% of the folks playing pool are NOT trying to become world champions... and yeah, if John thinks only pro's should teach, folks are gonna tell him he is wrong. He's a big boy, and does not seem insulted by it one bit.
My god, if that philosophy was true we would have to shut down 99% of the coaches, in most youth, HS and college sports, ya know, sports that actually take a great deal of athletic ability, and can actually provide a livable wage
Where would I be without people like you to tell me what I do and don't actually like. And to think that all these years I hated arguing. Thanks for letting me know otherwise. Now I don't have to get upset over nonsense anymore.
This is a seriously valuable thread. One of the best.
You completely mixing things up here. 99% of the folks playing pool are NOT trying to become world champions... and yeah, if John thinks only pro's should teach, folks are gonna tell him he is wrong. He's a big boy, and does not seem insulted by it one bit.
My god, if that philosophy was true we would have to shut down 99% of the coaches, in most youth, HS and college sports, ya know, sports that actually take a great deal of athletic ability, and can actually provide a livable wage
Where did I say anything about anyone becoming or trying to become a world champion?
Please cite where I said that only pros should teach.
Chuck
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I'm pretty sure you gotta give me a spot. What's the half-way point to meet? Is there a poolhall in Evansville?
LOL
So let me get this straight, I make some posts about B players trying to tell pro players that they are wrong, and Im not just talking about this thread for the record. And you feel the need to list your accomplishments and try to put me down?
Im not a pro player. Im not an instructor. Never made any claims of the sort.
I am however a lifelong player and an eight year member of this forum who is pointing out what I feel to be a problem ON THIS FORUM. But too many people on here like to argue especially with the pro players and sometimes I get sick of listening to it and I say something. Its not a hard concept to grasp, and there are many who share the same opinion, but just dont "voice" it on the forum.
Chuck
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Adderall works by increasing activity of certain neurotransmitters in the brain, namely norepinephrine and dopamine, which results from its interactions with trace amine associated receptor 1 (TAAR1) and vesicular monoamine transporter 2 (VMAT2). Adderall shares many chemical and pharmacological properties with the human trace amine neurotransmiters, especially phenethylamine and N-methylphenethylamine, the latter being an isomer of amphetamine that is produced within the human body.
Adderall is generally well-tolerated and effective in treating the symptoms of ADHD. The most common side effects are cardiovascular, such as irregular heartbeat (usually as a fast heartbeat), and psychological, such as euphoria or anxiety. Much larger doses of Adderall are likely to impair cognitive function and induce rapid muscle breakdown. Substance dependence (i.e., addiction) is a serious risk of Adderall abuse, but only rarely arises from medical use. Very high doses can result in a psychosis (e.g., delusions and paranoia) which rarely occurs at therapeutic doses even during long-term use. Recreational doses are generally much larger than prescribed therapeutic doses, and carry a far greater risk of serious side effects."
Poor guys that use this or similar drugs to try playing pool better! But may explain some of the crazy - or cal lit stupid - answers and opinions that some share."
LOL. Let me get this straight. You ASSUMED everyone on here was a B player and NOBODY had the credentials to have an open and honest discussion on the.....wait for it.... an internet forum.
And after you tried to belittle Neil and others that dared to offer a different opinion to a pro, you advised they lacked the credentials. Then, I demonstrate maybe, just maybe some of us might know more than you think cause, ya know, you don't know us. You are the one who said we don't have the credentials to correct/disagree with the pro's, and then when such credentials are provided, you scoff as if I'm only doing it to show you up ?????
You advised that "we" don't have the right to dare question someone who had the credentials... I'm just turning the tables and saying the same thing, you don't have the credentials to question me...
Doesn't that sound kinda silly, just a little? that we have to pull out resumes to determine who can have an opinion and who cannot have one.
This forum is NOT built around pro's, and if they wanna share info without being insulting, then have at it. But nothing in my posts were insulting to John in the least. Heck, I still got his autograph when I was at DCC a few years ago, and seems' like a nice guy. but if he's gonna say something out of line, he should expect a little push back.
This is just a "hobby" for me. I have a full-time job, a wife and a son that plays multiple sports. The money I make teaching is not enough to make even one car payment, .... and all money earned from teaching goes right back into paying others for instruction to get better, it goes to tourney entrance fees (many of which are purely donations because I have no chance to win), and it goes to buying pool related supplies, videos, books, even buying autographed pool memorabilia for my basement pool room...... so if pro's want us to stop promoting/teaching this sport so it can die a little faster, just say the word, I'm sure I can find other things to work on in my spare time
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I'm pretty sure you gotta give me a spot. What's the half-way point to meet? Is there a poolhall in Evansville?
You got the 8, but only if you bring PINK LADY with
I assumed nothing about peoples skill levels. Im referring to people who have openly disclosed their skill level.
I never said NOBODY had the credentials.
I did not try to belittle Neil. Look at the majority of his posts and tell me that a reasonable person would not consider them argumentative.
I never questioned you, I voiced my opinion on B level players correcting pro players.
And yes trying to make someone "eat their words" is putting them down.
How much more can you fabricate me saying and argue against it?
RJ, Ill say it like this. You are arguing with me for no reason that I can think of other than assumptions you have made of what Im talking about, which are wrong by the way and braggadocio on your part.
Im done here, so have fun with your oneupsmanship.
Chuck
well, actually, there were no assumptions, this is what you said:
Because most of the people on here "correcting pros" do not have the credentials to do so Neil. Its armchair quarterback mentality, and a big reason why the pro players who come on here leave soon after. Too many know it alls who dont know wtf they are talking about.
You made the comments about folks not knowing what the "F" they are talking about... so if my answers frighten you, just stop asking scary questions.
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