Popped my break tip clean off the ferule

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bdorman

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It was a bad miscue on a power break. It sounded like a miscue and when I looked up I thought I saw a little black thingy flying over the table...and sure enough, when I looked at the business end of my cue all I saw was ferule. Found the tip at the other end of the room.

BTW, it was a lousy break as you might have guessed.

I hope I can just sand ferule and tip (actually fiber pad) flat and superglue it back on. I don't have a lathe.

Anything special I need to know about installing a tip with a fiber pad?

Thanks.

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Not a whole lot of surface there in the center for glue to hold the tip on.

Okay...there is nothing in the center for glue to hold the tip on.


I know what I would do, but I don't want to say because of all the experts on here.:thumbup:
 
Hits 'em Hard said:
You mean that since it's an OB cue, you'd contact them? Good idea.
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I considered that but it would mean a couple of weeks without my break cue..not to mention the cost of shipping, etc.

Better I should do the repair myself...botch it...and then send it to OB. :grin:
 
bdorman said:
I considered that but it would mean a couple of weeks without my break cue..not to mention the cost of shipping, etc.

Better I should do the repair myself...botch it...and then send it to OB. :grin:
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The OB guys read the forums. They would see this and not cover your shaft under warranty. Send it back to OB and learn to soft break with your player.
 
bdorman said:
I considered that but it would mean a couple of weeks without my break cue..not to mention the cost of shipping, etc.

Better I should do the repair myself...botch it...and then send it to OB. :grin:
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Your cue is under warranty. That 'fiber' pad you call it is actually a carbon fiber pad that is there for a reason. Attempting a hack job repair yourself on a $200 shaft, is it worth it? You should just contact, not send, OB Cues to see what you should do. Or contact RBC on these forums, he works for OB Cues.
 
Biggest problem with trying to reattach a used tip is centering. It's been trimmed to the exact diameter of your ferrule.
 
bdorman said:
OEM Samarsa break tip.

I bought the cue used so I doubt I've got any warranty coverage anyway.
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You'd be surprised how far asking an honest question will get you in life.

It saved me $200 on a custom cue order a few years ago. It might get you a replacement or free repair...
 
Royce and CO stand behind their product. I would think if you do not want to send them the shaft, at the very least they would send you a new carbon fiber pad and a break tip - then it's up to you to find a good cue repair guy to do the work.

Please give them a call.
 
I've did the exact same thing to my OB break shaft. My cue guy sanded down the back of the tip pad and filled the little hole in the core of the shaft with Locktite gel. He said that it might not hold up, but after a couple of months of hard breaking, it still has.
 
Royces carbon pads are that, carbon so I would start with getting a few from OB.

Obviously the pad went bye bye on that shot.

Thats all I use is his carbon pads.

Now that part of the balsa or what material is in the center has come off with your tip, that indent will have to be filled and faced off.
 
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bdorman said:
It was a bad miscue on a power break. It sounded like a miscue and when I looked up I thought I saw a little black thingy flying over the table...and sure enough, when I looked at the business end of my cue all I saw was ferule. Found the tip at the other end of the room.

BTW, it was a lousy break as you might have guessed.

I hope I can just sand ferule and tip (actually fiber pad) flat and superglue it back on. I don't have a lathe.

Anything special I need to know about installing a tip with a fiber pad?

Thanks.

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Looks like a void was filled with superglue.

A lot of people think superglue is superglue... When it comes to installing cue sports tips of any kinds there is more to it than the everyday superglue, the good stuff usually is not found at the corner store.. The good stuff is had at industral suppliers, and only the pros know which it the right glue to use for which tip and how to use it.


Rob.M
 
Don't worry, it's a very simple repair.

The break shafts carbon fiber pads and the Samsara tip are very hard and stiff, so if you miss-cue on a hard shot like the break, it can "wedge" up one side and pop the tip and pad off.

The good news is that more often than not, it can be fixed in minutes with a little super glue.

First, carefully try to refit the tip back to the shaft. Do it dry without any glue, and keep rotating it around until you find that spot where it fits like a key in a lock. When you have that, you will know it, and that's when it's for sure an easy fix.

Now, with the tip in that "keyed" in spot, mark the side of the tip and the ferrule with a pencil so that you can line it all back up after you take it apart and glue.

Remove the tip, apply a light amount of a thin CA type of adhesive to the end of the cue shaft, and carefully, but not to slowly, position the tip back to where the marks are lined and press it firmly to the end of the cue shaft. Hold it for about 30 seconds or so and then wipe any glue that squeezed out.

It may take a little clean up after it's all done, but it should be back in place and as strong as can be.

Of course, if you wanted to send it to us, we'd be happy to do it for you. Our warranty is to the original purchaser, but in cases like this, with such an easy fix, we usually consider it a gesture of goodwill.


Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
 
RBC said:
Don't worry, it's a very simple repair.

The break shafts carbon fiber pads and the Samsara tip are very hard and stiff, so if you miss-cue on a hard shot like the break, it can "wedge" up one side and pop the tip and pad off.

The good news is that more often than not, it can be fixed in minutes with a little super glue.

First, carefully try to refit the tip back to the shaft. Do it dry without any glue, and keep rotating it around until you find that spot where it fits like a key in a lock. When you have that, you will know it, and that's when it's for sure an easy fix.

Now, with the tip in that "keyed" in spot, mark the side of the tip and the ferrule with a pencil so that you can line it all back up after you take it apart and glue.

Remove the tip, apply a light amount of a thin CA type of adhesive to the end of the cue shaft, and carefully, but not to slowly, position the tip back to where the marks are lined and press it firmly to the end of the cue shaft. Hold it for about 30 seconds or so and then wipe any glue that squeezed out.

It may take a little clean up after it's all done, but it should be back in place and as strong as can be.

Of course, if you wanted to send it to us, we'd be happy to do it for you. Our warranty is to the original purchaser, but in cases like this, with such an easy fix, we usually consider it a gesture of goodwill.


Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
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Excellent post. What I would do exactly, but I wouldn't have been able to explain it as well as you did...
Once again, O. B. showing their awesome customer service... :thumbup:

Rain-Man
 
RBC said:
Don't worry, it's a very simple repair.

The break shafts carbon fiber pads and the Samsara tip are very hard and stiff, so if you miss-cue on a hard shot like the break, it can "wedge" up one side and pop the tip and pad off.

The good news is that more often than not, it can be fixed in minutes with a little super glue.

First, carefully try to refit the tip back to the shaft. Do it dry without any glue, and keep rotating it around until you find that spot where it fits like a key in a lock. When you have that, you will know it, and that's when it's for sure an easy fix.

Now, with the tip in that "keyed" in spot, mark the side of the tip and the ferrule with a pencil so that you can line it all back up after you take it apart and glue.

Remove the tip, apply a light amount of a thin CA type of adhesive to the end of the cue shaft, and carefully, but not to slowly, position the tip back to where the marks are lined and press it firmly to the end of the cue shaft. Hold it for about 30 seconds or so and then wipe any glue that squeezed out.

It may take a little clean up after it's all done, but it should be back in place and as strong as can be.

Of course, if you wanted to send it to us, we'd be happy to do it for you. Our warranty is to the original purchaser, but in cases like this, with such an easy fix, we usually consider it a gesture of goodwill.


Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
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Many thanks for the reply Royce. Your suggestions are right along the lines I was thinking. I've already done a dry fit and it keyed up easily (you can see the two "keys" on the fiber pad in the photo: the spots where very thin pieces of wood remained on the pad).

And thanks for the offer, but I think I'll be able to manage this one.
 
Last year my J&J had the OEM phenolic pop off, again on a miscue.

My local guy put one back on three times before we both gave up and he put on a combination tip/ferrell. Good as new now. Just a little more expensive.

Still, I would try Royce's fix first.

Good luck!
 
RBC said:
Don't worry, it's a very simple repair.

The break shafts carbon fiber pads and the Samsara tip are very hard and stiff, so if you miss-cue on a hard shot like the break, it can "wedge" up one side and pop the tip and pad off.

The good news is that more often than not, it can be fixed in minutes with a little super glue.

First, carefully try to refit the tip back to the shaft. Do it dry without any glue, and keep rotating it around until you find that spot where it fits like a key in a lock. When you have that, you will know it, and that's when it's for sure an easy fix.

Now, with the tip in that "keyed" in spot, mark the side of the tip and the ferrule with a pencil so that you can line it all back up after you take it apart and glue.

Remove the tip, apply a light amount of a thin CA type of adhesive to the end of the cue shaft, and carefully, but not to slowly, position the tip back to where the marks are lined and press it firmly to the end of the cue shaft. Hold it for about 30 seconds or so and then wipe any glue that squeezed out.

It may take a little clean up after it's all done, but it should be back in place and as strong as can be.

Of course, if you wanted to send it to us, we'd be happy to do it for you. Our warranty is to the original purchaser, but in cases like this, with such an easy fix, we usually consider it a gesture of goodwill.


Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
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Its nice to see you guys on here to answer questions and give great info. If this was my cue I would feel better with your answer before doing this myself.
 
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