porper pool cue cases
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Not the same?
I think we will need a little more info. Leather or vinly, Used or new.
I am not real impressed with the new vinyl stuff. It is not really Porper anymore. I understand that Mueller is now in charge. Joe, I heard is spending most of his time doing Magic stuff. Can anyone else chime in on this?
berlowmj said:
I think we will need a little more info. Leather or vinly, Used or new.
I am not real impressed with the new vinyl stuff. It is not really Porper anymore. I understand that Mueller is now in charge. Joe, I heard is spending most of his time doing Magic stuff. Can anyone else chime in on this?
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I agree with Hal, they are good cases. Joe came out with his case designs back in the 1970's, and has maintained quality to this day. Most of the current Asian cases are patterened after Joe's designs which the Asian Manufacturers copied.
I sell both in my Pro-shop at my Pool Hall and while the Asian import cases look pretty good, you get what you pay for, they do not last as long.
The Porper case may cost a little more than the import cases, but they will last longer, and most importantly look good longer than the import cases.
Manwon
I sell both in my Pro-shop at my Pool Hall and while the Asian import cases look pretty good, you get what you pay for, they do not last as long.
The Porper case may cost a little more than the import cases, but they will last longer, and most importantly look good longer than the import cases.
Manwon
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berlowmj said:
They suck.
Reason: the top of the case is made out of a cheap styrofoam, at least the ones I have seen. This sh!t gets bent of out shape permanently if the butts do not fit in the holes to begin with. My teammate got one and I was simply astounded
about how deformed the top had gotten since he had only had it a month or so.I spoke to the guy who made them at Valley Forge a few years back and complained about this. Don't know if he even went back to his old cases that were good with the rubber case tops.
Didn't like
The thing I didn't like about Porpers is the fact that when you put joint protectors on your cue they barely fit into the case. I use joint protectors on all my cues so I went to and INstroke case and have been so much happier. Porper makes a good case, but if you have joint protectors it will be hard to close.
For the same amount of money I would buy the Gillesspee, or even less money an Action.
The thing I didn't like about Porpers is the fact that when you put joint protectors on your cue they barely fit into the case. I use joint protectors on all my cues so I went to and INstroke case and have been so much happier. Porper makes a good case, but if you have joint protectors it will be hard to close.
For the same amount of money I would buy the Gillesspee, or even less money an Action.
Well ...
I had a Vinyl Burgandy Porper 4 x 8, and the more I used it, the less I liked it.
1) The depth of the tubes wasn't right to me. The butt and shaft sunk
clear down where you had to turn the case upside down to get them out, which is not fun with a 4 x 8. I ended up cutting dowel rods to the proper
size so the butt and shafts would stick out at least a 1/2".
2) The foam on the lid's undersize was NOT GOOD. Mine got tore up, and half ot it came off (which leaves the cues bounding around inside).
3) The zipper around the top lid was constantly get hung up in the overlap that hides it in the first place, and was starting to malfunction.
4) This is my personal opinion, but I have worked for a software manufacturing company before, so I am familiar with grades, brands, and
quality of zippers available, plastic and metal. The zippers he used were substandard for this type of product for them to last without problems down the road.
5) I had to cut dowels of substantial length so I could have access to
my jump stick that I carried in the case. This added to the weight.
6) The shoulder strap was NOT WIDE ENOUGH, nor was it padded, and those are things every 4 x 8 needs. I ended up buying a seat belt pad at Autozone for $6 for a little shoulder relief, especially in Vegas for 10 days.
This told me overall that there wasn't a lot of Quality Control or Assurance on this product, that it came about from an idea and they ran with it.
I had a Vinyl Burgandy Porper 4 x 8, and the more I used it, the less I liked it.
1) The depth of the tubes wasn't right to me. The butt and shaft sunk
clear down where you had to turn the case upside down to get them out, which is not fun with a 4 x 8. I ended up cutting dowel rods to the proper
size so the butt and shafts would stick out at least a 1/2".
2) The foam on the lid's undersize was NOT GOOD. Mine got tore up, and half ot it came off (which leaves the cues bounding around inside).
3) The zipper around the top lid was constantly get hung up in the overlap that hides it in the first place, and was starting to malfunction.
4) This is my personal opinion, but I have worked for a software manufacturing company before, so I am familiar with grades, brands, and
quality of zippers available, plastic and metal. The zippers he used were substandard for this type of product for them to last without problems down the road.
5) I had to cut dowels of substantial length so I could have access to
my jump stick that I carried in the case. This added to the weight.
6) The shoulder strap was NOT WIDE ENOUGH, nor was it padded, and those are things every 4 x 8 needs. I ended up buying a seat belt pad at Autozone for $6 for a little shoulder relief, especially in Vegas for 10 days.
This told me overall that there wasn't a lot of Quality Control or Assurance on this product, that it came about from an idea and they ran with it.
case
i have had a 2x4 case for probably 10 years and it served me fine.i have cues with joint protecters and they fit fine.i bought a new 4x8 off of a company on e bay.and it is greats.if you need the info of the company,let me know.they were awsome to deal with.it got shipped out and returned by accident (my work),i had a tournament i was going to,the guy sent me another before he got the other one back to help me out.no additional shipping either,and he had the cheapest price.thanks.
i have had a 2x4 case for probably 10 years and it served me fine.i have cues with joint protecters and they fit fine.i bought a new 4x8 off of a company on e bay.and it is greats.if you need the info of the company,let me know.they were awsome to deal with.it got shipped out and returned by accident (my work),i had a tournament i was going to,the guy sent me another before he got the other one back to help me out.no additional shipping either,and he had the cheapest price.thanks.
rackem said:
They're made by Creative Inventions in Chatsworth, California - a suburb of Los Angeles. The shop is overseen by Joe Porper and his well trained managers and now owned by Muellers. They have had many of the same employees for a long time and are very quality concious. Joe was making a lot of fine cues, and as rackem pointed out, has now revived his magic prop and trick business. Joe is famous for his high-end magic wands, tricks, and balls and cups.
In my opinion, the quality is a lot better than the import cases. I use their dealers cases (12 X 24) and their joint protectors. The cases are lightweight and strong. They use excellent quality vinyl. The zippers are high quality and so is the sewing.
WhiteWolf pointed out that the top styrofoam insert piece in the lid is weak and he is correct. I don't actually use it, I just toss it.
I recommend using their cases with joint protectors for extra protection and to prevent the shaft and handle from sliding in too far. It's best to buy a new case and break it in for your specific cue. To break it in, I put a joint protector on the handle part of the cue and work the cue in slowly, turning it a little until the cue is in to the depth you want, using a little vigorish if necessary then sliding it in and out to loosen it up. The inside of the case foam will expand to fit the cue precisely, then you don't have to worry about it anymore - it slides in and out in a perfect little slot.
I recommend using joint protectors with these cases, to prevent the cue and shaft from sliding down too far. Their joint protectors are very affordable and the best available on the market as far as I'm concerned because they have a protective lip that covers the edge of the collars. They are accurately machined, so you don't have to worry about damaging the threads on your cue.
I like the protective interior of the case. They are well insulated and give perfect protection from the elements and typical bumps and jarring to the cue. Overall, a good, competent, affordable case.
Chris
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whitewolf said:They suck.
Reason: the top of the case is made out of a cheap styrofoam, at least the ones I have seen. This sh!t gets bent of out shape permanently if the butts do not fit in the holes to begin with. My teammate got one and I was simply astounded
But I want a case top that conforms itself to my cues' butts permanently, not one that forever resists efforts to force it down over the butts! Imagine a pair of shoes that would never conform to the shape of your feet.
And if I ever change cues, I can also replace that cheap styrofoam insert very easily and inexpensively, without mailing the case to Porper.
The Porper Signature line is a lot of protection for very reasonable money. The case won't fall apart, either.
TATE said:
Short lengths of surgical latex spear gun tubing work very well, too, at only $1.50 to $2.25 per foot. The 1/16" to 1/8" inside diameter is too small for a joint pin to stick in.
There are a couple of things I dont like about the porper, but the biggest thing is the zipper and the way the one i had hangs when trying to open it.