POSSIBLE rule for SELLING/BUYING

spanky981

spanky981

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This is a problem with AZ..

There is no buy it now feature like ebay to show you are first and close the ad. There are no general rules to selling to follow.

I can count at least 10 times I have been told that someone will buy one of my items here and they backed out.
There is no feedback rating here. Just a sticky talking about good buyers/sellers. So as a seller here what do you do?

Maybe a solution is that the first person who posts on the ad gets the cue,case or whatever. Not the first email or PM. This way its public knowledge and if they dont follow through everyone knows they didn't follow through. This may help clear up some messes and keep people from wondering if they were first at the same time..

What do you think?

Mike
 
spanky981 said:
This is a problem with AZ..

There is no buy it now feature like ebay to show you are first and close the ad. There are no general rules to selling to follow.

I can count at least 10 times I have been told that someone will buy one of my items here and they backed out.
There is no feedback rating here. Just a sticky talking about good buyers/sellers. So as a seller here what do you do?

Maybe a solution is that the first person who posts on the ad gets the cue,case or whatever. Not the first email or PM. This way its public knowledge and if they dont follow through everyone knows they didn't follow through. This may help clear up some messes and keep people from wondering if they were first at the same time..

What do you think?

Mike
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Unfortunatey I think thats life when it comes to buying and selling on Forums. I do alot of it on many forums and I just don't consider a deal 'done' tell money shows up paypal or otherwise. Unless I'm dealing with someone I know and have delt with before. There's not much else you can do besides a structures auction/sale site like Ebay.

It's always buyer beware and open deal till it's closed. :)
 
spanky981 said:
This is a problem with AZ..

There is no buy it now feature like ebay to show you are first and close the ad. There are no general rules to selling to follow.

I can count at least 10 times I have been told that someone will buy one of my items here and they backed out.
There is no feedback rating here. Just a sticky talking about good buyers/sellers. So as a seller here what do you do?

Maybe a solution is that the first person who posts on the ad gets the cue,case or whatever. Not the first email or PM. This way its public knowledge and if they dont follow through everyone knows they didn't follow through. This may help clear up some messes and keep people from wondering if they were first at the same time..

What do you think?

Mike
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I have been proposing this for some time. I think if a few sale threads go horribly awry like one recently did then this may become the standard. Maybe I'm not all bad after all.:rolleyes:

I'm glad someone else jumped on the bandwagon. Welcome aboard.
 
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Not a bad idea, although speaking for myself and honestly, if there are multiple "potential" buyers for a cue I'm selling, I'd like to sell to someone I know from past experience. This is done as "favor" for the frequent buyer and potentially less headache/risk for me as a seller.

Having said that I've had people back out on sales and it sucks at time when I was counting on completion of that transaction.
 
i think it is a good idea also,but maybe they should have to make a deposit to Paypal of $100 or so to commit.Jazz alos brings up a good point.there a some on here with whom business is always smooth and it would be nice to give them priority,but that would really ruin the whole idea.good idea though.
 
For example, for someone like masonh, I might even send him a cue before any payment with understanding like "buy it if you like it or send it back if you don't" as he has reciprocated with me before.

Hell, I might even given him better price than someone I don't know because I know there is less likely for bad transaction.
 
Jazz said:
Not a bad idea, although speaking for myself and honestly, if there are multiple "potential" buyers for a cue I'm selling, I'd like to sell to someone I know from past experience. This is done as "favor" for the frequent buyer and potentially less headache/risk for me as a seller.

Having said that I've had people back out on sales and it sucks at time when I was counting on completion of that transaction.
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I think back out of the sales it sucks however, sometimes we have to understand that someone has a needs too that they don't expect to happen...sometimes buying stuff we become excited of getting it as soon we realize it that we don't really need it we have a second thought afterwards...i think spanky has a point...if we sell something here..first Post should be the one to take it if the offer is fair ...because sometimes some seller would say " oh sorry someone alr'eady called me about the stuff im selling before you post on the thread.....how would we know right? ...some seller are picky too...if they know that the person who offered it first and they don't really know about that person they will pick the 2nd one that they had a transaction w/ that person..and that's understandable because seller protect themselves too and i do understand where they coming from...but i respect every sellers decision because the stuff is coming from them..


Jun :)
 
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I have to just say that Spanky981/Mike is IMHO one of the good guys. He stayed the course on a cue trade even after he got a cash offer which he had stated that he preferred. I appreciated that.

I too have have had multiple people offer $ for a cue only to back out when I accept their offer. When I took Business Law, offer and acceptance was the making of a contract. I like the idea of a more open transaction as well, but am not sure how to do it. Maybe there should be an auction section???
 
Jazz said:
Not a bad idea, although speaking for myself and honestly, if there are multiple "potential" buyers for a cue I'm selling, I'd like to sell to someone I know from past experience. This is done as "favor" for the frequent buyer and potentially less headache/risk for me as a seller.

Having said that I've had people back out on sales and it sucks at time when I was counting on completion of that transaction.
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Jazz,

I also agree with this. I feel more comfortable selling to people I know.. Should the seller put a disclaimer like the one people do on ebay when they want the right to end a auction early.
Sellers here can say. " seller reserves right to sell to buyer of his/her choice".

I dont know the answer. Just suggestions.

Mike
 
I've backed out of one deal for a inexpensive cue, because I ended up getting the sugartree I'm playing with.

Point is it happens, sometimes, dare say most times, with no intent of doing so when you agree to it. There are some professional tire kickers that always pm for every cue, those folks are still going to pm regardless of what you do.

I like the idea of selling to the first poster over the first pm, but it just depends on the time stamp. I prefer to sell to posters over pm personally because everyone knows where everyone stands and there are no arguements on who sent what when.
 
Hey Mike, Tim here. I'd like to see them spin an auction format off of the forums. Too many people are putting wood up here & taking offers which is against the spirit of a forum situation. Theres a lot of stand up people on here & unfortunately since its in cyber space & not face to face you're gonna get idiots!
 
spanky981 said:
This is a problem with AZ..

There is no buy it now feature like ebay to show you are first and close the ad. There are no general rules to selling to follow.

I can count at least 10 times I have been told that someone will buy one of my items here and they backed out.
There is no feedback rating here. Just a sticky talking about good buyers/sellers. So as a seller here what do you do?

Maybe a solution is that the first person who posts on the ad gets the cue,case or whatever. Not the first email or PM. This way its public knowledge and if they dont follow through everyone knows they didn't follow through. This may help clear up some messes and keep people from wondering if they were first at the same time..

What do you think?

Mike
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Good idea Mike,

I wish this idea had been implemented already, considering I was the first to post in that thread we are referring to.
 
Jazz said:
Not a bad idea, although speaking for myself and honestly, if there are multiple "potential" buyers for a cue I'm selling, I'd like to sell to someone I know from past experience. This is done as "favor" for the frequent buyer and potentially less headache/risk for me as a seller.

Having said that I've had people back out on sales and it sucks at time when I was counting on completion of that transaction.
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i have backed out of a purchase with jazz on one occasion and i felt very bad but at the same time i probably wouldnt have placed an offer if there was a system like this in place. sometimes peoples eyes are bigger then there wallets like me in this rare case.
 
Yup!

Jazz said:
Not a bad idea, although speaking for myself and honestly, if there are multiple "potential" buyers for a cue I'm selling, I'd like to sell to someone I know from past experience. This is done as "favor" for the frequent buyer and potentially less headache/risk for me as a seller.

Having said that I've had people back out on sales and it sucks at time when I was counting on completion of that transaction.
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Jazz is great! Hadn't said that in a while! Still owe you one Jazz!
Nick :)
 
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Bottom line...a seller should be allowed to sell to whomever they want to because they are the one that takes the risk. Although it is certainly disappointing not to get the item you were going after, the right still must stay with the seller.

In addition to that, many times the buyer would like to stay anonymous, so the first one to respond to the post via posting themselves, is not the best way of doing this IMO.

Gene
 
If it aint broke don't fix it. There are very few transactions here that go beyond repair. I like it the way it is.

As far as who responds to a deal first. If there is a legitimate dispute, then maybe the seller should post the times of the PM IF the buyer doesn't mind being exposed. If the buyer objects, then it's just the word of the seller. And that should be good enough.
 
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Cuedog said:
Bottom line...a seller should be allowed to sell to whomever they want to because they are the one that takes the risk. Although it is certainly disappointing not to get the item you were going after, the right still must stay with the seller.

In addition to that, many times the buyer would like to stay anonymous, so the first one to respond to the post via posting themselves, is not the best way of doing this IMO.

Gene
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I would agree with Gene and Hal and a few others here....I think AZ works really pretty well for the most part. It's not to say that there aren't a few transactions that fall apart badly :rolleyes: But, IMHO my experience has been very positive here on AZ :) best of rolls to all of ya ;)
 
Why not just put the item on Ebay and post a notice here? All of the favortism, hanky-panky and other issues should decrease.

Ken
 
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